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EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
April 27 2011 19:58 GMT
#1
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Some of you may have read that old blog in which I take the time to describe a particular friend of mine and his ever so peculiar gaming attitudes and tendencies.

As a recap, he is a highly cocky personality with no skills to back his talk up. It's very funny, especially when you manage to break his 'perfect strategies' apart and contemplate his rage for the remainder of the month or so. He cracks me up, in a good way.

+ Show Spoiler ['Him'] +
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The tongue guy lol

Now, ever since his epic AoE loss that day, he seems to have truly taken it by heart. He 'secretly mass practiced' until the day could consider his skills to be 'far superior' to mine. Well, that day has now arrived--according to him.

But things have changed a little bit. He no longer wants to play a single game but rather three, which I think is good, however, he set the map rules of all three games the following way:

- Tiny size
- Map revealed (with fog)
- Fifty population cap

Additionally, he chose to only play on Mediterranean, inland and desert map types, in that order.

Well, he clearly remembers the beating he was delivered on that large island map via a dozen Tiremes and consequently doesn't want the situation to repeat itself again. He knows (and laughs at the fact that) I play Starcraft and as a result have good macro. Perhaps that's the reason for such a low population cap and map size. Furthermore, he claims his micro to be near perfect; he constantly brags he can kill an elephant with one villager.

+ Show Spoiler ['Previous Ownage'] +
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Not any of this anymore!

I don't know about you guys but I seriously can't help it but chuckle inside and play along!

Game One

I spent a few minutes yesterday thinking up a strategy for the first game, one that will hopefully throw him off his game and make me laugh whilst.

On tiny map sizes, resources (aside from wood) are very scarce. Furthermore, Mediterranean maps have this huge sea right at their very center with side landmasses usually being connected by unbuildable shallows. This is what a typical Mediterranean map looks like (starting positions marked with Xs):

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My strategy is to quickly deprive him of his resources by containing him as close to his starting point as I can with walls and towers, both which are practically indestructible pre-bronze age. In other words, tower rush him with walls included. I will pick the Byzantine tribe as these have stronger and cheaper towers and walls. Afterward, I'll want to claim the sea for myself by making good use of the overabundant wood and try to harass any workers or buildings that happen to get or be close to the shore. If performed correctly, the game should end up looking something like this, ideally:

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After that, I feel like moving up to bronze and pushing him with upgraded towers for the lol and win.

Games Two and Three

For games two and three, I decided to let TL make up some hilarious strategies, even if you guys have no idea what AoE is. Shang/Sumerian villager rush perhaps? Non-stop harass? lol.

I'll make sure I take lots of screen shots and make a battle report for your enjoyment. Wish me luck, shoot me out some suggestions and let's have fun guys!

*****
Geovu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Estonia1344 Posts
April 27 2011 20:07 GMT
#2
LOL AoE 1 I never knew ppl still played it tbh, though I wish I still had the game

Could you plz describe maps 2 and 3 so we can get a more detailed strategy?
MisterD
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1338 Posts
April 27 2011 20:07 GMT
#3
mass priests!



WOLOLOOO
Gold isn't everything in life... you need wood, too!
metaphoR
Profile Joined May 2010
United States199 Posts
April 27 2011 20:11 GMT
#4
6 rax club men into LOLOLOL
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-27 20:13:11
April 27 2011 20:12 GMT
#5
On April 28 2011 05:07 MisterD wrote:
mass priests!



WOLOLOOO


You mean "Trolololooo"

Tose fuckers were the first thing to make me rage over a video game
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
Madkipz
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway1643 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-27 20:16:22
April 27 2011 20:16 GMT
#6
- Map revealed (with fog)
Wont this put an end to your tower / wall building days?

also why not just build towers untill you are at his townhall?

GL!
"Mudkip"
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-27 20:22:56
April 27 2011 20:19 GMT
#7
On April 28 2011 05:07 Geovu wrote:
Could you plz describe maps 2 and 3 so we can get a more detailed strategy?

I don't know why he chose them, but let me tell you that it can't get any more plain than inland or desert map types; both are basically terrain-only maps (water patches or rivers here and there) whose only true pathing constraints are forest clumps. Every so often, an inland map will be a large bulk of land surrounded by a thin water border.

On April 28 2011 05:16 Madkipz wrote:
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- Map revealed (with fog)
Wont this put an end to your tower / wall building days?

GL!

Revealed like in SC2 (you can see the terrain, but there's fog) and unlike Broodwar (everything is black at the start).

Thx!
Geovu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Estonia1344 Posts
April 27 2011 20:22 GMT
#8
On April 28 2011 05:19 EsX_Raptor wrote:
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On April 28 2011 05:07 Geovu wrote:
Could you plz describe maps 2 and 3 so we can get a more detailed strategy?


I don't know why he chose them, but let me tell you that it can't get any more plain than inland or desert map types; both are basically terrain-only maps (water patches or rivers here and there) whose only true pathing constraints are forest clumps. Every so often, an inland map will be a large bulk of land surrounded by a thin water border.

If that's the case, rush to your max supply cap with villagers, and then split the map with walls and towers, slowly encroaching on his side after the 20 minutes mark.

The starcraft equivilent would be massing cannons until you eventually reach his base lolololol.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-27 20:31:05
April 27 2011 20:30 GMT
#9
4 gate him
oh wait
i haven't played much aoe 1, just aoe 2, but he will probably try to stay low tier and do a quick push with not a lot of tech to surprise you? Maybe something similiar to a 6 rax all in. I'd prepare for that :p
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
April 27 2011 20:42 GMT
#10
Sounds awesome, i remember reading the other thread when you guys faced eachother and it was really entertaining.

Good luck :D
ocho wrote: EDIT: NEVERMIND, THIS THING HAS APM TECHNOLOGY OMG
SOB_Maj_Brian
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States522 Posts
April 27 2011 20:44 GMT
#11
As I recall, competitive AoE was mostly archer/chariot archer rushes. Of all the competitive (i.e. WCG and tournaments) AoK I saw, none made it past the feudal age. Every game was mass skirmisher v. mass skirmisher or if on a water map galley rushes or transport into proxy skirmishers on the other persons island.
Trowabarton756
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States870 Posts
April 27 2011 20:55 GMT
#12
Proxy barracks into clubman/slingers.
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Trowabarton756
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
April 27 2011 21:05 GMT
#13
AOE 1 is actually no joke. The computer is brutally strong on the higher difficulty settings and easilly gets a couple of tech tiers ahead of a human player(with solid macro, constant worker and unit production nonetheless) and has near-perfect range unit micro
Aah thats the stuff..
Ulfsark
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States958 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-27 21:09:04
April 27 2011 21:07 GMT
#14
do you know anyway to find this game? this game got me into RTS games, I miss it so much.


Edit, havent played in a while, but a war elephant rush would be sweet, or if you can rush phalanx i remember those being uber..

I GOT IT!


mass priests and convert his whole army/villagers
gg wp
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-27 21:13:47
April 27 2011 21:08 GMT
#15
Do you guys play Rise of Rome or original? I remember original, didn't even have queueing.

Also there's no Byzantine in Age of Empires, do you mean Babylonian?
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
April 27 2011 21:16 GMT
#16
This game is all !out early rushes. Just practice proxy rax and rushing. Workers are super spread out so your apm should allow you to kill all his workers while they are gathering. As for a humilation strat, build walls around his town center and so his workers can't get out. Walls build fast so bring like 3 workers and get that shit done super fast lol.
Jaedong :3
Trowabarton756
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States870 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-27 21:19:34
April 27 2011 21:17 GMT
#17
On April 28 2011 06:16 ReketSomething wrote:
This game is all !out early rushes. Just practice proxy rax and rushing. Workers are super spread out so your apm should allow you to kill all his workers while they are gathering. As for a humilation strat, build walls around his town center and so his workers can't get out. Walls build fast so bring like 3 workers and get that shit done super fast lol.


or even more embarassing wall off all of his unit producing structures so no unit can get out lolololololololololololol and keep peasents nearby to repair.

how'd that thing go with the german girl lol? Did he fuck her or did they just stay friends?
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Trowabarton756
mooose
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan200 Posts
April 27 2011 21:17 GMT
#18
There's usually still a few people playing AoE1 at voobly.com but not many anymore Still quite a good community for AoC (AoE2) though!


On April 28 2011 05:07 MisterD wrote:
mass priests!



WOLOLOOO


+1 WOLOLO

www.teamyao.com @TeamYAO
metaphoR
Profile Joined May 2010
United States199 Posts
April 27 2011 21:31 GMT
#19
can you still play this game online? or do you need 3rd party software or something?
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
April 27 2011 21:40 GMT
#20
Mass hoplites?

When I was in elementary school, the closest I came to beating the last mission of the Rise of Rome trial version was with mass hoplites. Unfortunately it failed, but I went back and beat that mission many years later in high school.

Ah, the memories.

photon man
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Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
April 27 2011 21:40 GMT
#21
Kill him with nothing but scout horses.
Logo
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-27 21:43:28
April 27 2011 21:42 GMT
#22
On April 28 2011 06:08 ZapRoffo wrote:
Do you guys play Rise of Rome or original? I remember original, didn't even have queueing.

Also there's no Byzantine in Age of Empires, do you mean Babylonian?

Yes! I was never good at remembering those names lol

On April 28 2011 06:17 mooose wrote:
There's usually still a few people playing AoE1 at voobly.com but not many anymore

There's always around 1,500 people playing AoE1 on garena.com

On April 28 2011 06:16 ReketSomething wrote:
This game is all !out early rushes. Just practice proxy rax and rushing. Workers are super spread out so your apm should allow you to kill all his workers while they are gathering. As for a humilation strat, build walls around his town center and so his workers can't get out. Walls build fast so bring like 3 workers and get that shit done super fast lol.

LOL I feel like giving this one a try hahaha

On April 28 2011 06:17 Trowabarton756 wrote:
how'd that thing go with the german girl lol? Did he fuck her or did they just stay friends?

+ Show Spoiler +
It was hilarious.
The girl started hanging out a lot with this other guy and my friend thought he was beginning to lose "his chance" and had to make a move asap; he asked her out in front of all of us just to have her and everybody else stare at him with an expression of awkward awe on her face (I tried not to burst into tears). This, apparently, made him immediately turn around and gallop out the building. Afterward, she publicly apologized to him for having "made him misunderstand her intentions." Then he started saying he'll promise to stay single forever, blah, blah, just to have another friend of mine find him on a dating website LOL
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-27 21:46:58
April 27 2011 21:45 GMT
#23
Random map was shit in AoE, it was about whoever rushed chariot archers first, and if you didn't pick a nation with the +30% villager speed, you basiaclly can't win.

I stuck to Archer Wars (yamato/hittite micro speed wars) and Choson (legions + towers) wars, and became extremely good at them about 5-7 years ago when MSGamingzone was running and populated heavily.

Nuke War (e-mc2 trooper, make 1, kill town center.) and Wonder Wars (4v4, rush wonder while other 3 teammate defended) were also fun.

I don't know if the rushing changed in Rise of Rome, we only played the original.
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mooose
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan200 Posts
April 27 2011 22:36 GMT
#24
On April 28 2011 06:42 EsX_Raptor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2011 06:17 mooose wrote:
There's usually still a few people playing AoE1 at voobly.com but not many anymore

There's always around 1,500 people playing AoE1 on garena.com


Wow really that many? There wasn't even that many people when I used to play aoe games on MSNGamingZone like 7 years ago ^^
www.teamyao.com @TeamYAO
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
April 28 2011 00:55 GMT
#25
On April 28 2011 07:36 mooose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2011 06:42 EsX_Raptor wrote:
On April 28 2011 06:17 mooose wrote:
There's usually still a few people playing AoE1 at voobly.com but not many anymore

There's always around 1,500 people playing AoE1 on garena.com


Wow really that many? There wasn't even that many people when I used to play aoe games on MSNGamingZone like 7 years ago ^^

Actually no. I'm sorry. I forgot to multiply that number by 10; as I write this, there are 12,959 people playing AoE1 (1v1s) with 90% of them being Vietnamese and another thousand being Europeans.

Damn o_o that's more active players than ICCup has had.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
April 28 2011 08:20 GMT
#26
Just tool rush lol.

AoE is all about tool rushing.

AoE2 is all about flushing.
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
April 28 2011 08:26 GMT
#27
Your opponent will probably do something like an AoE version of a 4/6 pool or worker rush and rely on his practiced micro to beat you.

I think it'd be fun to go mass-catapult and just crush him with that, even if it's extremely ineffective :p
Otherwise you could also fill the map with towers, deny him his resources and go AFK for an hour.
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
April 28 2011 15:19 GMT
#28
On April 28 2011 06:17 mooose wrote:
There's usually still a few people playing AoE1 at voobly.com but not many anymore Still quite a good community for AoC (AoE2) though!


Show nested quote +
On April 28 2011 05:07 MisterD wrote:
mass priests!



WOLOLOOO


+1 WOLOLO



Add another +1 to WOLOLOLOLO.
SOB_Maj_Brian
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States522 Posts
May 05 2011 13:33 GMT
#29
On April 28 2011 06:45 Mailing wrote:
Random map was shit in AoE, it was about whoever rushed chariot archers first, and if you didn't pick a nation with the +30% villager speed, you basiaclly can't win.

I stuck to Archer Wars (yamato/hittite micro speed wars) and Choson (legions + towers) wars, and became extremely good at them about 5-7 years ago when MSGamingzone was running and populated heavily.

Nuke War (e-mc2 trooper, make 1, kill town center.) and Wonder Wars (4v4, rush wonder while other 3 teammate defended) were also fun.

I don't know if the rushing changed in Rise of Rome, we only played the original.


God the gaming Zone was great! I played rated RoR and AoK and AoC on there, as well as a lot of chess. It was a huge part of my childhood, and I was sad to see it go : (
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
May 05 2011 14:16 GMT
#30
Yeah, WOLOLOLOLO him until he rages and leaves the game.

On April 28 2011 06:45 Mailing wrote:
Random map was shit in AoE, it was about whoever rushed chariot archers first, and if you didn't pick a nation with the +30% villager speed, you basiaclly can't win.

4v4s are much, much better.
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