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On March 14 2011 10:04 Kukaracha wrote:
Again, I've been in the US and I've noticed an unusual trend of wealthy ignorants. Something quite unusual that created the whole cliche of the "dumb American".
Cliches are there for a reason! Not saying that Americans are stupid in general, but there's a certain population that's rich enough to obtain a good education and who don't, and that's what so special. It's not what you would expect from such abundance and power.
maybe you just think too highly of yourself.
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On March 14 2011 10:10 419 wrote:The problem with that statement is you can use that to circularly justify evidence-unsupported prejudices...(e.g. X group is intrinsically dumb/lazy/uneducated -- well, I wouldn't think that if they weren't that that way, would I?) Wait a second... (PPS -- the spread of internet instant communication has not necessarily increased stupidity. It just made it more visible. Back in the days of the Pony Express, only John Doe Douchebag's immediate neighborhood would know he was an idiot. Now he can twitter it and demonstrate that fact to the entire world.)
well, that's one way of looking at it. the other is that there are thousands more who jump on the bandwagon and suddenly the word of the mob dominates all reason. case in point, sudden anti-americanism in this thread.
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Eh, every country has ignorant idiots spouting bullshit all over the place.
We are just the one that has the most publicity behind it.
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Can we Americans on TL apologize on behalf of our country's idiots?
Though the opinions of these people are obviously incredibly ignorant, just try to remember people that this isn't the opinion of every single individual in the United States.
Personally I'm glad my home hasn't been hit with an earthquake yet (I live in California), and from the looks of the situation the Japanese are pretty screwed right now.
Let's try to dispel those notions of bigotry.
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Wow, I can't believe such trash actually exists. Humanity can really be insensitive. Makes me sick to my stomach.
Pray for Japan. Hope they recover.
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On March 14 2011 10:23 Comeh wrote:
Eh, every country has ignorant idiots spouting bullshit all over the place.
We are just the one that has the most publicity behind it.
There are also generally more of us as a whole, and more of us have access to media that share our opinions, so more of said idiots are heard...
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Law of large numbers. No one would be surprised to hear that 1 out of 10 000 people is a heartless bastard. But 100 out of maybe 60 million regular American Facebook users is somehow terrible. Well 1/10.000>>>100/60.000.000
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I don't think the point is that "these idiots exist". I always thought it was "HOW can people so narrow-minded to this extent exist."
And it's even magnified in America, the country that likes to champion human rights and justice and ironically has the most amount of people who fail to respect those same values.
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Fire bombing of 67 Japanese Cities: ~500,000 total (plus 5 million left homeless)
Nuclear Bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki: ~150,000 - 226,000
Total of roughly 690,000 people killed, the majority civilians.
Pearl Harbor death toll: 2,350 killed, with sixty-eight civilians.
(figures were pulled from wikipedia, so fingers crossed about this being accurate)
That's right America, a national disaster was God's divine punishment for us losing three people for every thousand that Japan lost in these one-sided attacks. This is why I'm moving to a different country.
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The fact that they are dumb enough to post something that fucked up on facebook proves they are not good people in real life. They are the type of americans that buy gas guzzlers and complain when gas prices go up. The type of american that complain about people on welfare but get fired up when the government wants to reduce social security/ medicare benefits.
These special breed of americans arent special. They are called hypocrites, assholes or dumbfucks. They can be found in any country. Welcome to the world of stupid people.
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On March 13 2011 18:28 Patriot.dlk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2011 17:52 Zerokaiser wrote:
This is what happens in a country that's ruled by horrible media and nationalism.
Goad Japan into attacking.
Drop 2 nuclear bombs on civilian targets in Japan.
Tell Japan "they had it coming" when an earthquake kills tens of thousands of innocent people over half a century later.
EDIT: There's gonna' be a lot of comments about "There will always be idiots that you need to ignore."
I know this doesn't apply to the majority, that's not what I'm saying...but let's be honest, there's a disproportionately high amount of shit frothing from American mouths. It's tough to believe that such a developed country can be raising so many ridiculous people considering corporate interest and nationalism has only really taken hold since WW2. Mr. Americans in this thread, what is it that keeps you in the States? Is it family, friends, finance? Really good post imo
Really good post? Really?
Lets see.
Goad Japan into attacking . Yeah, what were we thinking. They were only farking raping our ally, China, figuratively and literally. And then us taunting them, and telling them we were untouchable, and daring them to hit us. Oh wait, nvm, that last part never happened. Whatever the fark you want to say abut Pearl Harbor.......placing the blame on the US instead of Japan for such an act is just ludicrous. They surprise attacked our navy without a declaration of war, and it's our fault. Nice. Wtf kind of history do you read? Oh, right, the "History Revisited: Everything the US Did Is an Affront to Mankind" version. P.S. That's no more accurate than the "History: America F&^$ YEAH!!" version.
Drop 2 nuclear bombs on civilian targets in Japan.
Or the alternative of:
A. Starving the country to death with a blockade.
B. Invading and killing millions more civilians, not to mention completely devastating their entire country. Oh yeah, and we lose tens of thousands of our own men to boot.
C. Firebombing their entire country.
Maybe you forget we were, you know, AT WAR? And not only were they not close to surrendering, they were basically sending civilians up in 20 year old planes with instructions to dive them into our warships. If we were to invade, the Japanese had plans to banzai charge us at the beaches with millions of civilians armed with spears. And yet......we're the barbaric enemies of society because we instead ended the war by blowing up a couple square miles of two cities. There is logical debate as to whether the second was really necessary, but it's not like they had approached us to surrender yet. You people baffle me sometimes.
Tell Japan "they had it coming" when an earthquake kills tens of thousands of innocent people over half a century later.
Yeah, you're right, everyone in America is calling it the Japanese's fault, and karma. I haven't met a single person who has said anything remotely close, and I know some real mouth-breathers. For all you know this crap is made up, or just 4chan trolls. At worst......breaking news, people are idiots. And idiots with access to the internet merely make their idiocy known worldwide.
I know this doesn't apply to the majority, that's not what I'm saying...but let's be honest, there's a disproportionately high amount of shit frothing from American mouths. It's tough to believe that such a developed country can be raising so many ridiculous people considering corporate interest and nationalism has only really taken hold since WW2. Mr. Americans in this thread, what is it that keeps you in the States? Is it family, friends, finance?
The "problem" in America is that even the most complete mouth-breathing retards have easy access to technology and things like Facebook. It doesn't mean there aren't complete idiots everywhere, it's just that the idiots over here have easier access to the rest of the world than most countries.
And I stay in America because........it's still one of the best places to live on earth? No, you're right, I'm going to move away from all my friends, family, job, and life as I know it because some guy read something on the internet about atomic bombs this one time, and likes to think he's smart.
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On March 14 2011 11:37 Tzel wrote:
Fire bombing of 67 Japanese Cities: ~500,000 total (plus 5 million left homeless)
Nuclear Bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki: ~150,000 - 226,000
Total of roughly 690,000 people killed, the majority civilians.
Pearl Harbor death toll: 2,350 killed, with sixty-eight civilians.
(figures were pulled from wikipedia, so fingers crossed about this being accurate)
That's right America, a national disaster was God's divine punishment for us losing three people for every thousand that Japan lost in these one-sided attacks. This is why I'm moving to a different country.
Good farking riddance. You are the exact kind of biased person we don't need.
Comparing those two things shows exactly zero understanding of history. But who the heck cares about facts and history? Better listen to US haters on the internet. Much better source of information. You're just as bad as the people you say you hate.
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On March 14 2011 12:15 Sm3agol wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2011 11:37 Tzel wrote:
Fire bombing of 67 Japanese Cities: ~500,000 total (plus 5 million left homeless)
Nuclear Bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki: ~150,000 - 226,000
Total of roughly 690,000 people killed, the majority civilians.
Pearl Harbor death toll: 2,350 killed, with sixty-eight civilians.
(figures were pulled from wikipedia, so fingers crossed about this being accurate)
That's right America, a national disaster was God's divine punishment for us losing three people for every thousand that Japan lost in these one-sided attacks. This is why I'm moving to a different country. Good farking riddance. You are the exact kind of biased person we don't need. Comparing those two things shows exactly zero understanding of history. But who the heck cares about facts and history? Better listen to US haters on the internet. Much better source of information. You're just as bad as the people you say you hate.
So yeah, Pearl Harbor was an unjustified attack on the USA, which had decided to be neutral in the war at that point. I know that. We went to war, killed tons of people, lost tons of people. I compared them because the USA killed over half a million people, the majority civilians, in a way that the Japanese could not directly counter, similar to the way that we could not muster enough forces to defend Pearl Harbor.
Please elaborate on why you find that biased and inaccurate. Just saying it is doesn't help me change my views that you hate so much, so what was the point of you posting that if you don't explain why?
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You think it's bad in the US, wait until you see Korean internet reactions. Koreans have a legitimate reason to hate Japan though imo.
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On March 14 2011 12:37 Tzel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2011 12:15 Sm3agol wrote:On March 14 2011 11:37 Tzel wrote:
Fire bombing of 67 Japanese Cities: ~500,000 total (plus 5 million left homeless)
Nuclear Bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki: ~150,000 - 226,000
Total of roughly 690,000 people killed, the majority civilians.
Pearl Harbor death toll: 2,350 killed, with sixty-eight civilians.
(figures were pulled from wikipedia, so fingers crossed about this being accurate)
That's right America, a national disaster was God's divine punishment for us losing three people for every thousand that Japan lost in these one-sided attacks. This is why I'm moving to a different country. Good farking riddance. You are the exact kind of biased person we don't need. Comparing those two things shows exactly zero understanding of history. But who the heck cares about facts and history? Better listen to US haters on the internet. Much better source of information. You're just as bad as the people you say you hate. So yeah, Pearl Harbor was an unjustified attack on the USA, which had decided to be neutral in the war at that point. I know that. We went to war, killed tons of people, lost tons of people. I compared them because the USA killed over half a million people, the majority civilians, in a way that the Japanese could not directly counter, similar to the way that we could not muster enough forces to defend Pearl Harbor. Please elaborate on why you find that biased and inaccurate. Just saying it is doesn't help me change my views that you hate so much, so what was the point of you posting that if you don't explain why?
What is your definition of neutral that leads you to believe that the US was neutral in WWII leading up to Pearl Harbor?
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On March 14 2011 13:36 Cider wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2011 12:37 Tzel wrote:On March 14 2011 12:15 Sm3agol wrote:On March 14 2011 11:37 Tzel wrote:
Fire bombing of 67 Japanese Cities: ~500,000 total (plus 5 million left homeless)
Nuclear Bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki: ~150,000 - 226,000
Total of roughly 690,000 people killed, the majority civilians.
Pearl Harbor death toll: 2,350 killed, with sixty-eight civilians.
(figures were pulled from wikipedia, so fingers crossed about this being accurate)
That's right America, a national disaster was God's divine punishment for us losing three people for every thousand that Japan lost in these one-sided attacks. This is why I'm moving to a different country. Good farking riddance. You are the exact kind of biased person we don't need. Comparing those two things shows exactly zero understanding of history. But who the heck cares about facts and history? Better listen to US haters on the internet. Much better source of information. You're just as bad as the people you say you hate. So yeah, Pearl Harbor was an unjustified attack on the USA, which had decided to be neutral in the war at that point. I know that. We went to war, killed tons of people, lost tons of people. I compared them because the USA killed over half a million people, the majority civilians, in a way that the Japanese could not directly counter, similar to the way that we could not muster enough forces to defend Pearl Harbor. Please elaborate on why you find that biased and inaccurate. Just saying it is doesn't help me change my views that you hate so much, so what was the point of you posting that if you don't explain why? What is your definition of neutral that leads you to believe that the US was neutral in WWII leading up to Pearl Harbor?
I guess you could say that trading arms to its allies wasn't very neutral, but the US was neutral in the sense that they were not participating in the war. US had quite a strong stance on neutrality, actually, and was not planning on entering the battlefield until the attack on Pearl Harbor.
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When an earthquake hit Sichuan there was an American T.V. figure (I think at least) that said it was karma. I don't exactly remember karma for what though, was it Tibet?
Upon reading some of the comments I thought of that event.
What's this thing about karma? Japan has a significant number of Hindus?
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Logic is overrated 
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GOD DAMN, EVERY POST MADE TODAY BY THIS ACCOUNT WAS NOT MADE BY THE OWNER OF THIS ACCOUNT, IGNORE EVERYTHING.
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the people that say that shit on facebook are mostly uneducated people/rednecks/retards and old retards. i don't get too mad because i don't really think too highly of humanity.
you have korea/chinese/americans spewing shit as well, so don't point it on americans. it's just sad people can't come to a logical conclusion and don't have a brain. it's multicultural up here so if one person said anything like that they'll get fucked up.
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