got caught smoking - Page 6

On March 12 2011 00:48 Impervious wrote:

If he's in the US, what would you expect?

On March 12 2011 05:19 419 wrote:

No, its what some of them choose to do. Its not like being high-school age is a medical condition.

Somehow breaking the law and drinking isn't my idea of a good time (I surmise I'm close the OP's age too) but I guess that means I'm going to fuck up later in life based on an informal poll of TL blog poster's opinions ~

On March 12 2011 11:08 THE_DOMINATOR wrote:

The US has a variety of tasty beers that you sir are quite ignorant of.

EDIT: Also who the hell are you asshats to decide what is "right" and what is "wrong" for other people you don't even know. I say if he can handle it responsibly then cheers!

On March 12 2011 11:32 Amnesia wrote:

Holy fuck finally someone with common fucking sense. Thank you.

On March 12 2011 11:50 fush wrote:


killing yourself typically = wrong, especially from a parent's perspective, which is exactly what we're talking about here. not sure what you're condoning, but to each their own i guess.

On March 12 2011 12:07 Amnesia wrote:

it's called drink and smoke in moderation then is it still called "killing yourself"?

also what is this about smoking weed that kills you? as far as I know, it doesn't have negative effects towards health. marijuana contains anti-inflamatory, antioxidants, and probably anti-cancer compounds.

http://video.pbs.org/video/1825223761

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On March 12 2011 12:26 fush wrote:


the pbs doc is a natural media sensationalist approach to something that isn't even remotely close to clinical study. they touch on therapeutic value for cannabis, mostly because of endocannabinoids, but CB receptors are found in so many systems that you can't simply conclude that experiments on cell culture will have the same effect in vivo. i don't study this personally though i do work in neuroscience and know that much. cannabinoids are naturally occurring and heavily regulated for a purpose. pumping your body full of them doesn't do you good, just because in cell culture they happen to kill cancerous cells. a lot of things do - yet we haven't exactly found a cure yet have we? as for anti-inflammatory agents and antioxidants, you really think there are no better choices than an addictive and neurotoxic drug?

On March 12 2011 12:41 Amnesia wrote:
Marijuana is addictive? I'm not sure about that, but it depends on what kind of addiction we're talking about: mental or physical. Mental addiction only goes to a certain degree imo - not smoking for awhile at first might suck, but it is nothing hard. You just...don't really think about it. Physical addiction? Close to impossible. I've had many instances in my life where I've smoked daily for months then have to quit for an indefinite period of time due to personal reasons, such as drug testing for jobs, or even a quick break because I need to study for exams. This is not just me - I know plenty of others who smoke like I do and have quit with relative ease.

Not saying that we should all smoke weed because it has benefits according to research, but you were the one that said weed = "killing yourself" but I fail to see your point on why it is harmful.

On March 12 2011 12:45 masami.sc wrote:


First of all, weed is not nearly addictive or harmful as other drugs, such as cigarettes, alcohol, crack, heroin, etc. As for its neurotoxicity - I would have to see some evidence for that. Neurotoxicity suggests that large doses of marijuana would alter the normal activity of the nervous system in such a way as to cause damage to nervous tissue. But this is obviously not the case. Even smoking large doses of marijuana will not lead to an overdose or lasting brain damage. In fact, it would require such an outrageous amount of THC that you would asphyxiate yourself before you could overdose on weed. That doesn't seem very toxic to me, now, does it? Smokers are, generally, functioning members of society. There are doctors and lawyers who smoke weed, and your parents probably smoked a ton of weed in the 60's.

As for the morality of smoking weed - it's really not for anybody to decide. It's a personal decision, and I'm afraid that, in the end, opinions on the morality of using drugs is irrelevant. People will be people, and everyone will always have their opinions. I think it's best to accept the fact that everybody in this world is a unique individual with sovereign control over their actions. Parents will be parents, but their opinions do not justify a subject matter's inherent morality - for our parents are only human, are they not?

On March 12 2011 13:30 Crazyeyes wrote:
Interesting, I've never heard of any 'real' damage/harm caused by cannabis before. The schizophrenia thing especially caught my eye. Do these studies suggest permanent damage? Does that even make sense? "Temporary schizophrenia"? How common are these side effects?

I know that some studies suggest that LSD can bring forth mental illnesses such as schizophrenia, but this seems to only be the case with a history of such things in the family. From what I understood, in this case, you already had it, but the LSD is just 'activating it,' and not actually 'causing it.'

Is it a similar case with these cannabis studies?


And yes, I could just search those studies up and read them myself but that would take quite a while and it seems you already have a decent amount of knowledge here. I'm not expecting some super complicated response, moreso just some quick general answers that you already know the answers to.

On March 12 2011 15:59 masami.sc wrote:
Smoking cannabis does not causes schizophrenia in normal, healthy people over the age of 18. In any case, all the studies show an increased RISK. The percentages don't indicate the number of people who actually end up with schizophrenia - it just states their increased odds for psychosis.

And in my opinion, cannabis's link with schizophrenia is pretty weak; anybody can do a study linking a certain substance to schizophrenia. Drinking, having sex, smoking cigarettes, drinking coffee, masturbating, etc. There are so many activities that release dopamine in your brain or somehow slightly alter your brain chemistry. Most biologists agree that schizophrenia is hereditary, and develops as a result of an interplay between one's biological predisposition (for example, inheriting certain genes) and the kind of environment he is exposed to. And also, obviously if your family has a history of psychosis you shouldn't smoke! It seems pretty simple to me...