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[Campaign Spoilers] Raynor and Valerian

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pyaar
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States423 Posts
March 11 2011 01:52 GMT
#1


So I'm replaying the campaign and I can't make sense of the cinematic after the mission Supernova. Valerian's hijacked Mengsk's capital ship and at least two other BCs as well and comes out of warp jump right in front of the Hyperion.

-Raynor notes that their shields are down and orders Matt to board the Bucephalus.
There are three fucking battlecruisers to one, and for all Raynor knows Mengsk has come here himself (he even assumes this since he oh-so-dramatically prepares a singular bullet in his revolver for Mengsk) to kill him. Does having your shields down mean you can't fire your lasers? What's going on? Anyone with a brain would have turned tail and run or yamatoed the shit out of the Bucephalus.

-Valerian sends troops against Raynor's men when they board the Bucephalus.
Again, this makes no sense. If Valerian was trying to be all dramatic, he should have ordered everyone to stay out of the path to the Bucephalus' bridge instead of wasting lives. On top of that, what if his guards had killed Raynor, Tychus or Matt? Valerian obviously doesn't want them dead.

I don't expect much out of a story in a video game, but BW was excellently written (at least I thought so when I played the campaign as a elementary schooler) and this cinematic seems like a complete lapse on the part of the developers, unless I'm understanding everything horribly wrong. Can someone please tell me I'm wrong?

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puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
March 11 2011 02:20 GMT
#2
I dont get why arogant ass generals will only listen to one song
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
March 11 2011 02:28 GMT
#3
Shields go down, Raynor goes in, you can't explain that.

Yeah, this was one of the most nonsensical things I've seen in any kind of story-telling, and especially a video-game. Does Blizzard really want you to suspend your disbelief that much?
you gotta dance
mucker
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1120 Posts
March 11 2011 02:54 GMT
#4
Yeah it blew my mind when I watched it too. It makes me crazy to imagine people actually meeting, brainstorming and planning out these scenes and lines, revising them, story boarding it, doing preliminary renders and recordings, revising again, so many iterations... and THAT is your final product? That was the best way you could come up with to reveal that Valerian was behind Mobius and that the artifact can save Kerrigan?
It's supposed to be automatic but actually you have to press this button.
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-11 03:18:00
March 11 2011 03:16 GMT
#5
Fuck this story. Artanis's fleet, Mengsk Scarped Fleet, and the UED fleet (who, btw, just captured the overmind). Can't kill a weakened(because, as kerrigan said, Her armies are still on char) army of Kerrigan's zerg on top of the platforms orbiting char.

Now, Raynor's renegade army accompanied with a weakened Warfield's army can destroy those infested platforms that has been buffed up by a Big Ass Leviathan.

tl;dr

Reynor in sc2 > ALL .. he's like 'Chuck Norris'
Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
March 11 2011 03:28 GMT
#6
To add to the weirdness, since when have battlecruisers possessed shield technology? They sure as hell don't use it in the campaign.
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Indrium
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2236 Posts
March 11 2011 04:13 GMT
#7
In defense of one of the issues, I think the other two battlecruisers would be afraid to fire on the ship for fear of hitting the flagship.

The rest doesn't make sense to me, though.
BordZ
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia118 Posts
March 11 2011 10:44 GMT
#8
Spazer I think you hit the largest nail on the head
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