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lilsusie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3861 Posts
March 06 2011 12:14 GMT
#21
If in Korea I'm hearing that SKT is better than KT in terms of service for their smart phones and the Galaxy S2 is coming out in May(ish). Might wanna look into that.
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Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
March 06 2011 16:28 GMT
#22
If you want to develop, grab the phone that is most popular with people around you.
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VManOfMana
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States764 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 08:16:30
March 07 2011 08:15 GMT
#23
On March 06 2011 17:41 Z3kk wrote:
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On March 06 2011 16:36 Womwomwom wrote:
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You reasoning is 100% correct. I have to iterate that what makes or breaks these mobile devices is the software and currently Apple is without a doubt the leader in the market in the operating system, in the quality of their software store, and how the developer is treated. There is no reason to pick Android except for price (which isn't really a factor with the high end smartphones), requirement of a Mac to develop apps, dislike for Apple, and you only use "open source" platforms.

If you are not going to use the applications from the Android Market or App Store, just get a dumbphone like Motorola FONE F3 (I use one for work, it is the best dumbphone because of the eink display) or a cheapass Nokia featurephone because you're going to be wasting money otherwise.

The main problem with the mobile, post-PC market right now is that Apple pretty much has the market cornered, especially in the tablet sector. The only thing keeping Android alive in the smartphone sector is their pricing compared to the iPhone...that isn't the case in tablet market and it shows with all the shit that's currently happening with RIM and Samsung. Hilariously, the best Android tablet tablet out right now is a rooted Barnes & Noble Nook Colour simply because it is significantly cheaper than the iPad.


Actually, almost all of those points are debatable.

In terms of operating system, either devices can apparently run either OS, and android has the added advantage of having extremely customizable ROMs and themes and the like (as do the iProducts to a certain but reasonable extent).

The Android store is much more open to developers as well and is quickly rising. The Apple store essentially is set up in a way such that all apps have to be sent to Apple for approval, whereupon significant payments must be if they're accepted, or Apple can just flat-out deny the app. The Android market is much more open and developer-friendly. Unfortunately, it's a nightmare because of Android's fragmentation--you have super high-end phones here and terribly designed phones on the other end of the spectrum.

Hardware-wise, Android phones also have the iPhone beat. Android phones have had dual-core processors and some upwards of 1GB of RAM for a while now. While the resolution on the iPhone is undeniably higher than the WVGA displays of most high-end Android phones, even the single-core processors were more quick, the high-end phones possess more RAM all in all, have (arguably) better cameras, and also have better front-facing cameras (on the ones that do have them).

Even the new iPad has only 512 GB of RAM when phones have had that much for a long time, and it's touted retina display (?) has been eclipsed by the Motorola XOOM. Tegra 2 dual-core processor is also better as are both the cameras.

Samsung's SAMOLED+ display is also ridiculously strong and vibrant, not to mention has little glare and saves tons of battery according to random user comparisons that you can find with a quick google.

Basically, Android devices are superior in display, RAM, processor (not to mention that Steve Jobs blatantly lied that iPad 2 was the first tablet "with a dual-core processor to ship in volume" when the XOOM had been out a while back), network (4G LTE now), battery life (with or without under/overclocking), GPU, flash support (iPad 2 still doesn't have flash support, which kills a lot of the utility of a tablet), features, customizability, the list goes on and on...the one the Apple does have over Android is actually the app store, in my opinion, and Android is quickly catching up in that respect.

Consumers don't buy by specs, though, so most consumers turn to Apple as one can very quickly pick up all one needs to know about the device, and it's very simple. UI is based on preference, however.

Edit: definitely not trying to be inflammatory or argumentative...I admit I'm somewhat of an android fanboy and was merely pointing out some advantages of android. Apple's products are very solid, but I personally don't feel as if they actually lead the industry (though they do in sales).



Some clarifications:

iPad has no retina display, only iPhone 4 does. "Retina Display" refers to those close to 300 dpi, basically print quality, very hard for the eye to distinguish individual pixels (hence, "Retina".)

iPad and iPad 2 displays are 132dpi. iPhone 4 is 326dpi. So when it comes to pixel density, yes, iPhone 4 is still on top.

XOOM needs to be send back to Motorola for the 4G upgrade, and Flash is not available until April. That doesn't look very good for the "most viable" Android competitor for the iPad.

As someone already said, higher specs are not that meaningful compared to how the hardware is used. Android still has pretty deficient GPU acceleration in the interface, and it does make a difference in the user experience. Not only in performance, but also battery life. This is the polish where Apple is still king.

http://www.satine.org/archives/2011/01/01/the-care-and-feeding-of-the-android-gpu/

Android has a lot of potential, but really, its a real shame how hardware manufacturers keep throwing things hoping that a spec sheet is what is going to beat the iPhone and iPad. It won't. Its the user experience. And IMO, Android is becoming the Windows of mobiles/tablets: high volume but generic, lowest common denominator products. It doesn't help when the developer of the OS's primary concern is advertising volume.

RIM acquired QNX to create a new software stack and HP acquired Palm's for WebOS. I think these two are the one who can make a dent on Apple's dominance.
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KingofHearts
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Japan562 Posts
March 07 2011 10:06 GMT
#24
serious reply here,, get the iphone 4 because of the apps collection it has to offer and sleek design.
moshi moshi~
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
March 07 2011 10:15 GMT
#25
I prefer the Android OS, however I don't like how the best Android phones coming out all have pretty large screens. I don't consider a 4.3" screen on a telephone to be better then say a 3.7". The iphone size is nice and small.

That being said, I am picking up an HTC thunderbolt running android in the coming weeks.
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Starparty
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Sweden1963 Posts
March 07 2011 11:13 GMT
#26
On March 07 2011 19:15 Bosu wrote:
I prefer the Android OS, however I don't like how the best Android phones coming out all have pretty large screens. I don't consider a 4.3" screen on a telephone to be better then say a 3.7". The iphone size is nice and small.

That being said, I am picking up an HTC thunderbolt running android in the coming weeks.


on the other hand they weigh twice as much instead
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