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This is my first, and probably last blog.
I really like SC2, I really do, at least I used to.
About 5 months ago, I finally got promoted into diamond. My friend, who also plays SC2, has been in diamond since about release. I have always competed with him, and we have always been about even in terms of skill.
About 1 week after I got promoted into diamond, I got demoted after a series of losses. I remember, I was 27th in my division and had about 1300 points before the demotion. People still mock me for that. I have always been embarrassed about that.
Fortunately about a month ago, after nearly non-stop laddering. I got promoted back to diamond, ahead of my friend too! It was tedious work, but worth it. I was 2200, and 17th in my division! he was only 1600!
He was fairly inactive at the time and decided to step it up. He had a huge bonus pool at the time, so he caught up in next to no time. From here, I wanted to stay ahead, so I admit, I cheesed sometimes. And it worked a little! I got points fast and stayed up with him until his bonus pool was burnt out.
Yesterday, he comes into school and announces he's been on a winning streak and has 3000 points! I was at 2700, and disappointed I was so low. He kept telling me to hurry up and get to masters, as he was almost there!
What I did is i played a lot. Yesterday night, I had a losing streak, and this morning it continued. I lost about 10 in a row total. but I was still 2600, and 7th in my division, demotion wasn't even on my mind.
It should have been, Today, I got demoted after winning 2 games and losing 1. I told everyone that my brother had been playing, and I was now too frustrated to ever play again. Only the second half is true.
I will now likely not play SC2 again, and also probably not come back to this site. So goodbye everyone, it's been a blast.
-Riley
  
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hehehe, lame way to quit. i just lost 12 in a row trying to get into masters. just dont give a fuck. (but give more of a fuck than me, or you wont improve)
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you seem pretty insecure. its just ladder rank, dude.
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So ... You quit because you were demoted? Not because you dislike the game or anything? :O
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It sounds to me like you are obsessed with arbitrary numbers and not actually getting better at the game. The ladder has a hidden estimated skill level that obviously decided you were not diamond material. Harsh, but probably true. I wish blizzard would just display the "hidden" level and rank people accordingly, but they do not.
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lolwat? are you trolling or am I missing something?
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Are you serious? Dude, I'm still Platinum (that's the highest I've ever been) and I still have the will to compete everyday. Everyone goes on losing streaks. Top players go on loser streaks. But you have to have the mentality to come back stronger and better. Otherwise, there was no point in you playing the game at all.
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chill out man, it's not like it even matters. if you get so frustrated at tiny things like sc2, you're gonna be fucked when you have to deal with real life.
anyways, maybe some off-time is what you need. hopefully you realize how ridiculous this actually is and learn to enjoy the game.
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It's only diamond league.
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if youre only playing to show you are better than your fiend then it was only a matter of time before one of you got pissed and quit
play for fun dude. play to get better for yourself, not so you can beat your buddy lol
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If you are playing the game just to have your name with a higher number next to it or a different little emblem, then yea, quitting is your best bet. Play because its fun or you like improving and getting better. Don't think about ladder rank or anything that's silly!
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He'll be back.
But on a side note. It seems like your playstyle was very volatile. You had lots of streaks and were getting promoted and demoted often. I am not too sure if that is a common occurrence. I know from my experience that I worked from silver to diamond and then changed races and got demoted after 20 games. I am now still in platinum trying to get back to diamond. It seems like your cheesy play might be the main reason you were getting into diamond and when you tried to play more standard you found it difficult to keep your winning ways. But that is just an assumption, and you know what happens when you do that.
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I don't play SC2 but how hard is it to play with other people in non-ladder matches? If you really like the game then that might be an alternative to laddering.
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You sound competitive, and yet you give up just because you dropped down.
Winners never quit.
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On February 19 2011 08:26 green.at wrote:
lol how old are you? -.-
I was wondering the same thing.
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I think you shouldn't take SC2 too serious. The most important thing is to have fun and if fun for you is about only gaining points and going up to masters then its up to you.
When I feel frustrated with SC I take a time off and play something else (Magicka is blast! ^^). Take a week off. You'll probably feel much better and ready to climb the ladder up till the end.
But I'm only and Silver league noob so what do I know??
GL and HF.
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It's like when I would go on a huge losing streak on iccup, I would ragequit and take a break for a few days. No reason to completely quit playing a game you like just because you had a bad day laddering, happens to everyone.
Ladder is gonna be reset in awhile anyways. Seriously, why do you care so much about this.
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as we say in WoW
you'll be back.
i just read it a second time and wow. you need some EQ
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The problem with the inflated ranks on Bnet 0.2 is that people have gotten a sense of entitlement from their rank. On ICCUP you knew where you were supposed to be in terms of rank and it was up to you--and you alone to get better.
I think OP's age/maturity are questionable.
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On February 19 2011 08:32 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
You sound competitive, and yet you give up just because you dropped down.
Winners never quit.
except what about quiting when you're ahead? 
on a serious note, though I obviously have never seen you play or your games, you sound like you're playing JUST to win, and not to improve, that kind of playstyle will get you to mid/high diamond, but to get past that bump you have to sit down and stop doing the same cheese build over and over (not saying you are, just a generalization) and actually work on your mechanics+gamesense.
I'd be pissed too, and I've been worried about being demoted to plat a few times on bad days, but so far it hasn't happened. Instead of focusing on your rank for that day, focus on how well your games went, and what you did in them, after a little while you'll hopefully be promoted to masters and not even realize it.
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i know his frustration man, if you don't know people you can't practice, and if you can't practice you don't improve, and so you turn to ladder to practice, and randomly being demoted/promoted, and having the system F up your MMR means you don't get any consistant practice either, so really blizz ladder and Bnet 2.0 sucks for getting better.
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Blizzard's matchmaking has consistently placed me in matches with people of similar skill than me. I trust their MMR. All the smoke and mirrors with rank, well... That's just pretty bullshit. I like it though.
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On February 19 2011 08:37 Loser777 wrote:
The problem with the inflated ranks on Bnet 0.2 is that people have gotten a sense of entitlement from their rank. On ICCUP you knew where you were supposed to be in terms of rank and it was up to you--and you alone to get better.
I think OP's age/maturity are questionable.
I think your first and last sentence are related. Nobody gets a false sense of entitlement from their rank if they understand how the ladder works.
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Blizzard has done a fine job eh? Seriously, if you want to be better than your friend find someone good to practice with you. Beat him in 1v1s consistently by playing half as much as he does and you will find it more rewarding than grinding the ladder trying to beat him in terms of rank.
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Well maybe it's for the best. If you're gonna suck at the game, might as well quit. Along the way though, you may end up quitting many things and never accomplish anything in life. Such is the risk we take for giving up.
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Don't quit!
I'm Bronze, and progressively getting worse. Honestly!
You just gotta take a break, play some custom games like Starjeweled, and just fun stuff, and then seriously look back at your replays. Look over them and analyze them until there's nothing left to analyze, and work on different aspects. Obviously, if you were in Diamond, you're already quite good, but it really helps to stop and take a look at your replays and others like your friends. ^___^
Get more practice partners and just play customs for a while!
Either way, if you want more of a pep talk, send me a message. xD!
I have a few friends too who are looking for practice partners, so. :3
Don't give up! ^______^
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Grow up. Such a kiddy move. Man up, life isn't always fair.
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On February 19 2011 08:37 Roe wrote:
as we say in WoW
you'll be back.
no need to resort to wow, that quote was never exclusive
bw was bad enough in this regard to be called 'starcrack'. im sure wow is addictive, but for different reasons
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Sounds to me like the OP has this "Oh I can't be the best so I'm going to quit" or "I wanna be this rank but I'm not so I'm going to quit" attitude.
Maybe the reason why you can't get to a certain rank is because you just aren't good enough. Did you even consider this possibility?
I can understand quitting SC2 because the game/ladder sucks, but quitting for this is downright retarded.
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Saying it was your little bro that got you demoted is so weak. It's a computer game, for Christ's sake. Your rivalry with your friend seems ridiculous enough to make your care about B.net this much.
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LOL.
I got demoted from masters league after practicing builds on the ladder
got repromoted BACK to masters after about 5 days.
Suck it up dude its bound to happen
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I guess I'm supposed to be all sympathetic and go:
"Oh no, you can do this! We believe in you!"
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WoW-forums
that way -->
you attentionwhore you :p
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I don't know the only way to say it is.. suck it up man. I remember in BW when all my friends would play. My good friend despite playing a lot less than me always won and was better than me. Many times I got frustrated but through a bit more hardwork, and realizing it's not natural skill that makes someone better but better understanding and mechanics in the game. I got better through understanding these concepts more not just constant laddering. Now I almost never lose to him in BW, and that carried over to SC2. Theres times when you go on losing streaks and it's frustrating but if you enjoy the game its no reason to quit.
I suggest watching some replays of you 2 and seeing what he does that you don't. Perhaps he hotkeys more than you or is more aware of the mini map. Or just macros better. Get better in those fields and get better. don't worry about losing. GL HF
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Don't quit on SC2, especially if you do enjoy the game.
Ladder can be quite frustrating, I've been struggling with it since I began my way on my own improvement. I think, what is important is, to have at least one or two friends to talk to about SC2/play with them when you just don't feel up to laddering and you need to find new confidence in your gameplay. If you read my blog, I've described many of these struggles on my way to improvement from complete noob to maybe one day decent player.
Giving up on something you enjoy is a bad move and you might regret it later. I've been there so many times in my life... not in SC2 per say, but I've been ther with other hobbies in past. I took SC2 as my own way towards changing that 'trend' because of the love I have for the game.
Now, you are diamond player. I am sure you do know your way around the game. Maybe you just need some touch there and there to fix these small gaps in your game. Again, a good friend who also plays might be an option.
No matter what, don't just throw the game away. I wish you good luck, sir :-)
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I quit recently too. It's actually just not very fun compared to BW 
I'm so sorry
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Hmm...you were almost 3K diamond and you got demoted to platinum?
I was 2K diamond and I got promoted to masters! How does this make any sense?
Of course im joking...it just means that ladder rank and points mean nothing. NOTHING. You can never know how good you are. For all you know, your friend could be in a +2000 division modifier league. Just learn to love the game and beat your friend out in 1v1. Ladder shows nothing. Personal battles do.
1v1 xnc gogo
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"People still mock me for that. I have always been embarrassed about that."
what? guessing teenager/teenage maturity....possible troll but a bit too much effort so i'll assume not
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Quitting now will only make the mocking and harassment worse. Why even quit a game it's not like you have to play it making a big bold statement like this doesn't serve any purpose to me other than a pity party from your peers. We are here for you as a community but if your losing to players who are equally skilled than maybe you should be in Plat. Just know this, if your friend gives you crap about being better or having a higher score just play him in a 1v1 and beat em. I do wish the best of luck to you just don't go being so dramatic it's not good for the cause !
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Canada9720 Posts
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oh, hardcore gaming, how much pain it brings...
this includes farmville
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spotlight this for lols tyvm
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You should come back and read your blog post in a month or two. You might feel silly; to be honest SC2 division+points only mean as much as you want them to. Just because you got demoted a few times when trying to beat your friend is no reason to quit the entire game --especially over a meaningless number.
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Man division doesn't mean shit. I have seen high golds dominate diamonds and other strange stipulations.
My advice for you.. just stop giving a shit. Play those games, pretend those numbers arent there, and kick the shit out of people.
It's a game, play because you like the game, not because there's a sweet ass picture next to your name or because your e-peen blizzard system determined 'my dick is huge' score is higher than the next person's, and vice versa regarding not playing.
Do you get a hard-on when you stim a group of marines over poorly micro'd mutalisks?
Does the idea of completely mindfucking your opponent and dominating the map while taking him in battles make you estatic?
Do you get pumped when you watch a replay or a GSL and you say to yourself "That's exactly what I would have done out of that situation, that's fucking awesome!"
If so, than who gives a shit about your rank, it's just that, a silly rank.
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Someone takes ladder way too seriously.
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Odd reason to quit. This isn't WoW where a thousand people stare at your ratings every day by the AH and you're always in a massive flaming war / epeen contest with everyone "good".
I don't even care about my league at all and I was a total rating whore in WoW even.
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If you take diamond league that seriously then you definately need a break from games.
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Well goodbye. You dont wanna be a good person and give your account to me?  I play in EU i would like to try US ladder
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You need to chill, if you're on a losing streak don't keep playing! you're not having fun while losing so much and you're losing a lot of points that you care about! i once lost 16 times in a row in MASTERS... and now I'm a 3100 masters toss :D it's all about confidence! trust me!.
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Everyone here seems focused on bashing the guy for making his own choice, yet hardly anyone has mentioned the fact that its absolutely retarded if he actually got demoted while sitting at 2700 pts in diamond. How can someone possibly be demoted when they are that high in diamond? It's blowing my mind how this could even happen.....
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why do you care about rank so much?
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On February 19 2011 10:30 metamage1 wrote:
why do you care about rank so much?
exactly. If you're in constant competition with your friend, what truly matters is that you can beat him.
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On February 19 2011 08:37 Loser777 wrote:
I think OP's age/maturity are questionable.
Yeah, that pretty much sums this blog up.
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Enjoy the process, broski. Even if you were to beat your friend, you probably still wouldn't be content. The happiness comes inherently from just loving to play and being competitive. If you're in it for any other reason you won't last.
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In the end, amount of wins doesn't matter. Only if your skill improved or not.
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lol why would you share this with us
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LOL see you in a week or less. worst blog ever, you must be 12 and what is this?
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On February 19 2011 10:28 eXigent. wrote:
Everyone here seems focused on bashing the guy for making his own choice, yet hardly anyone has mentioned the fact that its absolutely retarded if he actually got demoted while sitting at 2700 pts in diamond. How can someone possibly be demoted when they are that high in diamond? It's blowing my mind how this could even happen.....
Mr MMR would like a word with you...
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On February 19 2011 11:00 limonovich wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2011 10:28 eXigent. wrote:
Everyone here seems focused on bashing the guy for making his own choice, yet hardly anyone has mentioned the fact that its absolutely retarded if he actually got demoted while sitting at 2700 pts in diamond. How can someone possibly be demoted when they are that high in diamond? It's blowing my mind how this could even happen..... Mr MMR would like a word with you...
Huh? What are you even saying? If you want to address my comment, then at least do so properly, rather than some ambiguous statement. If he was sitting at 2700 in diamond then his MMR is going to be decently high. In order to get to 2700 you have to WIN not lose, which would increase his MMR, not decrease it. Explain what you mean please.
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"losing streak of 10"
he wasnt a solid diamond player, hence promos/demos. system obviously matched him against players of lower mmr, he lost lots. 2 wins werent enough to improve his rating, so he got demoted. he cant deal with that.
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YEAH! Grow up! How immature of you to make a decision about quitting something as adult and mature as a rated "T" video game! The fact that you quit a video game that you don't enjoy just makes me, and the rest of us grown up adults, sick.
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Ur mmr is not necessarily higher. If you are at 2700 and you have long losing streaks, ur mmr really drops since you're going to face lower and lower opponents. However I don't think you can be demoted after like 10 losing streak because I've had longer and still in diamond.
I understand how you feel OP about being competitive with friends. I have a friend that I am especially competitive with but we don't care about ladder number or division. We 1v1 to see who is better.
There's no reason you should quit SC2 because of your rank. It doesn't make sense. Do you quit school because you got an A in math and then a D in math the next year?
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On February 19 2011 11:03 eXigent. wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2011 11:00 limonovich wrote:On February 19 2011 10:28 eXigent. wrote:
Everyone here seems focused on bashing the guy for making his own choice, yet hardly anyone has mentioned the fact that its absolutely retarded if he actually got demoted while sitting at 2700 pts in diamond. How can someone possibly be demoted when they are that high in diamond? It's blowing my mind how this could even happen..... Mr MMR would like a word with you... Huh? What are you even saying? If you want to address my comment, then at least do so properly, rather than some ambiguous statement. If he was sitting at 2700 in diamond then his MMR is going to be decently high. In order to get to 2700 you have to WIN not lose, which would increase his MMR, not decrease it. Explain what you mean please.
At this point everyone has around 2700 points in bonus pool.
Lets say, if there was no bonus pool, you were borderline diamond/platinum. You won 50% and lost 50% of your games, and you rating would stay at 0 in diamond.
Because we have bonus pool, you get twice as many points for a win as you lose for a loss. So even if hes still borderline Diamond/Platinum, if hes used up enough of his bonus pool his rating will look high.
The battle.net system ignores the bonus pool part of your rating for matchmaking and promotions/demotions.
For more information about this
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=150367
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You'll never get good at anything if you give up so easily.
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[B]On February 19 2011 11:03 eXigent. wrote:
Huh? What are you even saying? If you want to address my comment, then at least do so properly, rather than some ambiguous statement. If he was sitting at 2700 in diamond then his MMR is going to be decently high. In order to get to 2700 you have to WIN not lose, which would increase his MMR, not decrease it. Explain what you mean please.
This might come as a shocker, but the player in question may have used more than 2.7k bonus points to reach 2700 diamond.
What does this imply?
He loses more than he wins. The bonus pool, and his lack of understanding thereof, caused him to mistakenly believe that he really was at the skill level of a 2.7k diamond player.
EDIT: Looks like Oco beat me to it.
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Who the hell cares if you get demoted or not? It's really ridiculous to react to a demotion this way. Who really gets made fun of for not being demoted too? You sound like you are very self-conscious around your friends too...
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hahaha yeah i know that feeling. 4 days ago i did what i always tell myself not to: i got up and started playing basically the entire day. was like 40 games or sth? i didnt do it intentionally but i kept losing these stupid games and wanted to get rid of this losing streak as the day passed on, so did my rating. i plummeted from 2997 masters to 2790....felt so shitty afterwards, like seriously depressed. i find it amazing how worked up i can get over something so trivial as a video game. but then i guess its the case with anything where youre aspiring to become good and experience a series of setbacks.
as it stands, im almost back up to my previous rating because i feel that bnet keeps matching me to less proficient players, sort of evening out my losing streak.
so buckle up and dont let it drag you down man.
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
See you in like....4 days :D
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On February 20 2011 06:19 Kennigit wrote:
See you in like....4 days :D
No kidding, obvious attention ploy. If you were serious about quitting you would have just quit and been done with it not make this QQ blog about why your quitting. Children are funny.
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hahaha
i like to take a break too when i lose a few games in a row
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Reminds me of a guy named Gary.
He started before his friend, Ash. Beat his friend soundly the first time. Cleared the first few gyms easily and was way ahead of his friend. His friend fell behind for awhile, but thanks to his friend's "bonus pool" (better sweeper), his friend started catching up.
So Gary became frantic and worked even harder, eventually working his way into the elite league, and becoming the grand champion. But a little later he lost to Ash and found Ash had surpassed him.
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LOoooooLLLL priceless thread.
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Thats what happens when you use SC2 ladder as the measure of whos dick is biggest, your friends or yours.
And if you quit now, your dick will be smaller for ever.
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On February 20 2011 10:52 igotmyown wrote:
Reminds me of a guy named Gary.
He started before his friend, Ash. Beat his friend soundly the first time. Cleared the first few gyms easily and was way ahead of his friend. His friend fell behind for awhile, but thanks to his friend's "bonus pool" (better sweeper), his friend started catching up.
So Gary became frantic and worked even harder, eventually working his way into the elite league, and becoming the grand champion. But a little later he lost to Ash and found Ash had surpassed him.
hahahaha, well put sir.
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Good on you. I've been trying to quit my self also. I'm also shocked at how easy it is to get demoted? It seems a little unfair considering how hard you have to work in order to get promoted.
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Why are people getting upset about losing games on ladder. I have sometimes quit a game because I forgot to make my second supply depot. If you play enough games you stop caring about win/loss ratio
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What a lame way to quit, just any game not only SC2. I can't believe you and your friend compete with each other via ladder points. That doesn't mean shit.
Play 1v1 head on with him, who win the most is the better one. Plus, playing the game is for fun. I had great fun playing team games with my friends.
Hope you come back,,,,'cos quiting like this is STUPID
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As if anyone cares, yeah, I'm back already. just finished playing a few games.
Also, a lot of you took the OP too seriously. I like exaggerating, it's fun.
On February 20 2011 06:19 Kennigit wrote:
See you in like....4 days :D
o_O
Can you tell me the winning lotto numbers now??!
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