I read all the pages of the [US] House Passes Healthcare Repeal mentioned thread and I did not want to get into the discussion as I have no REAL idea about the american health care / insurance situation, neither did I want to comment the sense of "lost causes" in the U.S. house of representatives passed when you only have 2 parties present in it and you know how it is going to end (unlike other countries with more parties and the reasonable possibility to form short-term alliances with other partys to get a bill through that you see reasonable for your people even though you might have formed a coalition with another party to rule the country for the period of time you were elected for and disagree with the former).
I only have a question for the american citizens here that always bugged me deep down in my heart. Some of you (most of you? - in this kind of thread at least as far as I know [ and I read all of "those" threads I can find]) always seem to argue THE PEOPLE against THE GOVERNMENT as if all this was some kind of court case.
Life is not a court case, political decisions are not a court cases either.
I see myself as part of the austrian people AND government as I cannot see how they differ. Although I do not work in the actual or imagined "government" that rules over YOU, the people. We,the people elect them (some of the people ) and we can also bring those persons that we elect down again.
Its not a mystified being that has to be feard, it is your neighbour who is in the senate and your friend who works at the local police station. The people form the government and if it has come so far that you are afraid of your own government and dont want it in your life, you might have to rethink a lot. (And as I am writing this I realize .. has this always been the case in the U.S. ? How come .. Its not like some day the government just appeared and everyone accepted it but thought "better not let them into my life, I am sure this is evil witchcraft)
I never understood this. And if you actually say that democracy works different in your country than in others and that I do not understand the united states citizen and the government they run, I cannot really argue against you. You can also say that I am a leftist european douche who thinks that all life has to be saved and that trees have to be hugged, I can live with that.
Hell I am even a communist (does it really matter what sort and if I believe that there has been no communist government yet?), so bring it on. But I actually dont want to bash your style of life, most cultures differ in many ways and I accept that. Does not mean I like them, does not mean I would even accept their invitation to visit (although I most likely would, to see how it really is there and to make up my own mind unbiased of things that I read/heard although most of our opinions are second hand as we cannot be everywhere and life is short.. But it does mean that we all can talk and argue and learn from each other (or not, WAR).
Its not like the EU is perfect in any way (as if, trolo) - permanent changes are the best part of democracy. We do not have the same kind of democracy that we had 50 years ago and in 20 years it will have changed again.
This really is not criticizing a country (a people) I know very little about (well I read a lot and I like to read but reading can only give you so much information - at some point you have to at least talk to U.S. citizens or go over there and experience it personally).
I just want to know if there is a reason behind the fear of the government, this demonized being that cannot be controlled and does what it wants to do and ALWAYS is against you.
And I know sometimes I get a little bit sarcastic so dont quote me on my written words and say "Dear Tufas, I do not think that any of our founder fathers thought that the government was full of witchcraft. Regards, Joe Sixpack."
Take it with a grain of salt and some humor, then try to answer this question that always bugged me .. Why do some of you (a lot, does not even have to be the majority - hypothetical 30% of the U.S. is still a lot of people) fear your (own) government ?
And if you feel that I am unfair to the american members of TL.net as you have the same fear regarding your government and I had the nerves to not speak about any other countries, feel free to post as well of course.
PS: I really apologize for my grammar and the english non-typical nested sentence, thats how us german speakers roll. I tried to use as much american english opposed to british english as my knowledge allowed me to.
PS PS: I dont like TL:DR. Either read it or do not read it. And if you read all this and respond with "I do not exactly fear my government, I just do not want to have it in my life that much" - please, you know what I mean.