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Fan of people, not teams - Gilbert Arenas

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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
December 20 2010 01:58 GMT
#1
I tend to follow sports by being fans of people related to sports. For example, I'm a "Baltimore Ravens fan" but specifically I'm a fan of the gameplan Ozzie Newsome has laid down for the organization. I'm also a huge fan of Bill Belichick because I think what he does is amazing, year in year out. It fascinates me, trying to figure out what they're looking at when they trade someone, draft someone, pick someone up as an undrafted free agent, et cetera. I also have a lot of respect for people like Bill Polian, and now Scott Pioli (as he's, in my mind, started to prove he wasn't just a Bill Belichick puppet in New England) for being so damn good and classy at what they do. That's not to say I admire everyone good - I root heavily against Peyton Manning and rejoice when he fails (because of how much he's shafted two of the "teams" I cheer for - the Ravens and Titans - and I ridicule the Redskins a lot.

However, I was a huge fan of Sean Taylor, and I was quite stunned and bewildered when he died.

It's a weird way of putting it, but he was "one of my boys," a player that I followed coming out of college into the pros, vested emotionally in him (I was really hyped about him, and when he lived up to it I was proud he was doing what we all thought he could do). I guess it's, in a way, a lot like how people are fans of Riggins, fans of Michael Jordan, etc. I also think that in a way it's more difficult to have this sort of thing happen in this day and age, where you can follow pretty much any player you want from their high school days. Maybe it's just me though.

Gilbert Arenas was, and is, another one of those guys. I remember us all being so excited about him signing with the Wizards, back when we were in high school. We (the whole D.C. area) embraced him, and he embraced us back. Whenever we'd see stories in the paper or the net about him throwing shirts into the stands, his charity work, all that sort of stuff, we swelled with pride. See, we didn't care if other people around the country thought he sucked (because of his lack of defense), we didn't care if other people didn't think we could win with him. He'd become one of us.

It's also why most other people couldn't understand how most D.C. Wizards fans still had his back after all those knee injuries, after that gun fiasco. We didn't forget all the smiles and kindness and fun stories he'd brought us all those years. He'd become much more than an NBA player. In a way, a lot of us wanted to win, but we wanted to win with him on our team. He'd brought the Wizards back, and he'd become Mr. Wizard. He'd become the Face of Washington D.C.

That's why it hurt when his image was torn off the Verizon Center.

It's also why it was bittersweet when we replaced him with John Wall.

It's also why it really, really sucks now that he's been traded.

I know a lot of people say "the Wizards needed to get rid of him," and a lot of people, probably Arenas himself, will contend that both sides needed a fresh start. It's most likely true, and I wish him well, and I think myself and many others will actually root for the Magic (except when against the Wizards) for as long as Gilbert's there.

But I also feel like the Washington Wizards just traded The Washington Wizard to the Magic. Maybe John Wall will step in and make us forget. He's got time. But he's also walking into a situation much less dire than Gilbert, and he doesn't seem to be even remotely as charismatic. He's got time. But that time isn't now, not yet anyways. And so the pain of bidding Gilbert Arenas farewell remains.

Yes, I know people will say "but y'all have Alex Ovechkin!" Sure, and Ovie is certainly a character in his own right, but I feel like, we all know where Ovie's heart lies (in Russia) and I don't think anyone faults him. He's a cool guy, and we've got his back when the rest of the nation hates him (not as much as Crybaby!) but, he just doesn't have "it." He's not the face of D.C. like Gilbert Arenas was.

And time will tell if anyone can and will actually replace that hole.

In the meantime, good luck, Gil. It won't be with the Wizards, but if you ever win an NBA Championship I'll be genuinely happy for you. Thanks for all the memories you've left us, and thanks for bringing the Wizards out of dumps and back into the minds of the 2000's generation of Washingtonians.

*****
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zzaaxxsscd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States626 Posts
December 20 2010 02:33 GMT
#2
well said. I loved the whole Agent Zero + Hibachi!! thing he used to do (even his super-honest blog on nba.com). I remember him scoring 60 against Kobe and all of DC was in love with him just a few years ago.

sad to see him go. he's got a crazy personality and it just doesn't fit with what people expect from NBA players. wish him all the best as well
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
December 20 2010 03:26 GMT
#3
i loved yao, he was the person that got me into nba and the rockets. it's so sad that his career may have come to an end.
yao and ichiro would be my 2 favourite sports stars that i would follow anywhere
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
dogabutila
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1438 Posts
December 20 2010 03:46 GMT
#4
Yo man, i live here and I hate Gil. Glad he goes, maybe he can lose games for the magic now.
Baller Fanclub || CheAse Fanclub || Scarlett Fanclub || LJD FIGHTING!
crazeman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
664 Posts
December 20 2010 04:59 GMT
#5
Agent Zero was one of my favorite players too. It was a shame that the gun thing happened.

He's actually is pretty similar to Ron Artest. They both act upon their feelings a lot without thinking it through even though they have good intentions. Arenas is just too honest for his own good... esp with today's media and twitter.
DanceCommander
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1808 Posts
December 20 2010 05:25 GMT
#6
I live in Orlando and I'm just happy we got rid of vince fucking carter and rashard lewis. That is all.
Beneather
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada451 Posts
December 20 2010 06:00 GMT
#7
On December 20 2010 14:25 DanceCommander wrote:
I live in Orlando and I'm just happy we got rid of vince fucking carter and rashard lewis. That is all.

I understand that you hate Vince Carter ( I am a Toronto fan) but Rahsard lewis was actually pretty good.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Day[9} <3
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
December 20 2010 14:57 GMT
#8
I get the whole root for player thing (I like Amare Stoudemire from his Suns days, so I'm happy now), but Arenas of all people???? Jeez.

Ovechkin, partially because of his own skills and partially because no other Washington franchise has been relevant in the last decade or so, is the King of DC! At least he's done something other than barely take the team over .500
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-Frog-
Profile Joined February 2009
United States514 Posts
December 20 2010 15:20 GMT
#9
Arenas also sponsored the Halo team Final Boss for a long time and was apparently really into competitive gaming.
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