What do you think about using a player with a different nationality in a national team in SC2? (eg an english in the france team)

Level of nationality we are talking about: An english living in France playing for France team
(I am not trolling, please reply wuth a serious answer)

Poll: Foreigner players in a national team

Not Agree (31)

58%

Don't Care (16)

30%

Agree (6)

11%

53 total votes

Your vote: Foreigner players in a national team

(Vote): Agree
(Vote): Not Agree
(Vote): Don't Care

hasuprotoss

United States4612 Posts

December 10 2010 06:25 GMT

I accidentally voted Don't Care, meant to vote Not Agree. It just seems counterintuitive. Maybe if they're like the first generation removed from their parents moving, but even then that just seems like it would take too much work to figure out

Advocado

Denmark994 Posts

December 10 2010 06:25 GMT

Does he have any ties to England? I don't see why not if that's true.

LuDwig-

Italy1143 Posts

December 10 2010 06:29 GMT

Im asking that because this is actual happening in a national team..but all the members think this is ok..so i want to ask if i am missing something..

mOnion

United States5657 Posts

December 10 2010 06:35 GMT

you provided nothing to agree with or not agree with

anyway it depends on level of nationality, this is way too vague

Ducci

United States588 Posts

December 10 2010 06:51 GMT

If it is a national team then there shouldn't be an foreigners on it

CaucasianAsian

Korea (South)11583 Posts

December 10 2010 07:03 GMT

if he is french but on study abroad or short term living in england then i have no problem with it. but like having Mondragon play for russia and advokate play for portugal is absolutely not right.

BnK

United States538 Posts

December 10 2010 07:09 GMT

I came from DotA and it happens all the time, especially in europe.
Two cases that I see this acceptable.
1. There is a country,say A, that have so many good players that no one cares about it when people of nationality A play for team country B.
2. There are few players from country A that are so good but the country has no interest whatsoever in the game. In this case, they can join other country teams. (this will cause some problems in Lan events though as no one gives them money to fly to another country.)

Zim23

United States1681 Posts

December 10 2010 07:14 GMT

I'm for the same rules as every other sport with national teams. You are eligible to play for a national team if you have that citizenship. If you have two passports then you're eligible to play for two teams, etc...

Ludrik

Australia523 Posts

December 10 2010 07:29 GMT

#10

If you're a permanent resident somewhere then you should be able to play for their team imo regardless of nationality. Really though, if the ip is coming from there than how can you tell anyway?

Metalwing

Turkey1038 Posts

December 10 2010 07:33 GMT

#11

I am a follower of European football, so I don't agree with such things. Starcraft national teams shouldn't be like German national football team.

YoureFired

United States822 Posts

December 10 2010 07:37 GMT

#12

By definition, a national team should not have foreigners in it unless its like a Brazilian in Portugal, since they have close to the same culture; even then, citizenship in the nation in question should be enough, I think.

johnlee

United States242 Posts

December 10 2010 07:38 GMT

#13

Well... I think we can use seleCT as an example. What nationality do you think he would associate with himself if he were to choose the flag to put under his ID?

I don't think there would be a problem if he chose the American flag, despite being Asian.

Sinensis

United States2513 Posts

December 10 2010 07:57 GMT

#14

National teams in other sports require you to be a certain percentage of descent. I personally don't think someone who isn't French should be representing France.

Speedbump

New Zealand338 Posts

December 10 2010 08:37 GMT

#15

For me, it's something that I disagree with mildly, although there have been a number of international players who have played for New Zealand before. This question tends to get brandied about a lot in regards to The All Blacks (New Zealand's National Rugby Team), especially from Northern Hemisphere rugby coaches. (Who are at least as guilty, or are more so in that regard.) There also was a time when playing "Pick the Englishman" in the England cricket team was rather fun.

My belief is that players should only play for the country they represent if they view themselves as that nationality (want to identify as part of the country they live in, as well as uphold the main notions of the country they want to be a citizen in), as well as live in the country for a long enough time to be seen as a resident of the country. (I tend to see gaining residency as ok for non-sportsmen, but 2/3'rds if your life in the country as the required minimum for sportsmen)

I guess that E-Sports would differ slightly though. I guess residency would be valid enough for me, as I don't see E-Sports at the true international level yet. (E-Sports would have to be accepted as a legitimate profession in quite a few more countries before this is possible, which requires a major mental shift from what most countries (including New Zealand) think.)

palanq

United States761 Posts

December 10 2010 10:43 GMT

#16

what am I agreeing to? that I think it's okay for an English player, living in France, to be on the French team?

that seems fine. if you live in some other country for a while you kinda adopt it.