• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:57
CEST 22:57
KST 05:57
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S RO8 Preview: herO, Zoun, Bunny, Classic7Code S RO8 Preview: Rogue, GuMiho, Solar, Maru3BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview27Code S RO12 Preview: GuMiho, Bunny, SHIN, ByuN3The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL47
Community News
Code S RO8 Results + RO4 Bracket (2025 Season 2)0BGE Stara Zagora 2025 - Replay Pack2Weekly Cups (June 2-8): herO doubles down1[BSL20] ProLeague: Bracket Stage & Dates9GSL Ro4 and Finals moved to Sunday June 15th13
StarCraft 2
General
Code S RO8 Results + RO4 Bracket (2025 Season 2) The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation Jim claims he and Firefly were involved in match-fixing Code S RO8 Preview: herO, Zoun, Bunny, Classic DreamHack Dallas 2025 - Official Replay Pack
Tourneys
[GSL 2025] Code S: Season 2 - Ro8 - Group A [GSL 2025] Code S: Season 2 - Ro8 - Group B RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] Darkgrid Layout Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady Mutation # 476 Charnel House Mutation # 475 Hard Target Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ FlaSh Witnesses SCV Pull Off the Impossible vs Shu StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest Will foreigners ever be able to challenge Koreans?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL19] Grand Finals [BSL20] GosuLeague RO16 - Tue & Wed 20:00+CET NA Team League 6/8/2025
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason What do you want from future RTS games?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Who’s Getting the Effortless-Chic Look Just Right?
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
UK Politics Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Vape Nation Thread
Fan Clubs
Maru Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Korean Music Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
A Better Routine For Progame…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 20421 users

Is maphack for SC2 released?

Blogs > LuDwig-
Post a Reply
LuDwig-
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Italy1143 Posts
November 28 2010 20:21 GMT
#1
http://www.mediafire.com/?vot2oteudaka8yg


I don't know if it is an alredy discussed issue..but however..i have the sad feeling that Maphack has been released...look at this user:

User Freelife @ Europe

Why am i saying this?
I know map hack accusation is serious issue but:
-he scouts me position immediatly (cross positions)
-when i start my hidden tech he send a marine to the exact place where my hidden tech is (he made a long route)
-at delta quadrant he find out the pylon with dark templar warped in (it is really not unusual..but for me is quite hard to believe that you move ALL your army to scout for that)
-not to mention that he make the perfect counter (but that could be also luck)

I alredy tried to look from his POW but it seems to never look my base.
What do you think?

*
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=120015&currentpage=98<--Search the HotBid's Post
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 28 2010 20:22 GMT
#2
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=151244
Translator:3
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
November 28 2010 20:31 GMT
#3
Yea there have been maphacks out for a while.
When they see MC Probe, all the ladies disrobe.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
November 28 2010 20:45 GMT
#4
Doesn't sound like he map hacked at all to be honest. Sounds like you cheesed and you feel cheated because you played against someone who scouts a lot.

Scouting cross position is fairly normal. Some players like it because it gives them vision of the middle of the map where people often proxy.

There are common areas for hiding tech, and good players scout these areas when they smell something funny.

Oh no, he found your pylon after already knowing that you were doing dt tech? Especially in SC2, I doubt it is uncommon to move the whole army. Scouting with a just a single unit is something that takes time for players to learn. 1a

THE PERFECT COUNTER... You mean he got detection when he smelt tech?
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28624 Posts
November 28 2010 20:47 GMT
#5
yes maphacks are out, no if the guy never once takes a look at your base there is no reason to assume he was hacking.
Moderator
NotSupporting
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1998 Posts
November 28 2010 20:51 GMT
#6
I watched his player cam and he didn't look at your base or something strange like that (don't know if maphack would cover that up or not). He was really suspicious and scouted loads with both the scout scv and his first marine. He moved his marine many times clicking the natural several times, then the main right base and then finally finding your tech. Prior to that he had seen an probe leave that base though so it was at that point obvious.

I do not believe this guy used maphack.
Rotodyne
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2263 Posts
November 28 2010 21:02 GMT
#7
I was under the impression that maphacks can no longer be detected using the players cam. Is this wrong?
I can only play starcraft when I am shit canned. IPXZERG is a god.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 21:27:41
November 28 2010 21:22 GMT
#8
Maphack was released like a 7 days into the beta, in fact the very same maphacks are still running undetected (good job blizzard). As for that replay yeah he might have been, the marine scout seemed pretty arbitrary.

On November 29 2010 05:47 Liquid`Drone wrote:
yes maphacks are out, no if the guy never once takes a look at your base there is no reason to assume he was hacking.

On November 29 2010 06:02 Rotodyne wrote:
I was under the impression that maphacks can no longer be detected using the players cam. Is this wrong?

Yeah the hacks have camera spoofing i.e. you won't know by watching the replay.
guN-viCe
Profile Joined March 2010
United States687 Posts
November 28 2010 21:51 GMT
#9
On November 29 2010 05:47 Liquid`Drone wrote:
yes maphacks are out, no if the guy never once takes a look at your base there is no reason to assume he was hacking.



not quite true. a skilled hacker can easily avoid this by just glancing at the mini map or using mineral/unit counting tools.
Never give up, never surrender!!! ~~ Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence -Sagan
RageOverdose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States690 Posts
November 28 2010 22:00 GMT
#10
On November 29 2010 05:21 LuDwig- wrote:
http://www.mediafire.com/?vot2oteudaka8yg


I don't know if it is an alredy discussed issue..but however..i have the sad feeling that Maphack has been released...look at this user:

User Freelife @ Europe

Why am i saying this?
I know map hack accusation is serious issue but:
-he scouts me position immediatly (cross positions)


Some people choose cross position to scout first. I've even done it, even though it's not really a great idea.

-when i start my hidden tech he send a marine to the exact place where my hidden tech is (he made a long route)


He scouted everything else first, and he noticed (unless that's a result of camera spoofing, I don't even know how that works) that your Probe went off that way very early when he went to scout.

-at delta quadrant he find out the pylon with dark templar warped in (it is really not unusual..but for me is quite hard to believe that you move ALL your army to scout for that)


Pros still use their whole army to stop drops, when not even all of their units can hit Medivacs and it's only one of them. That means nothing really. He also saw that a Probe moved out of there with his Hellion at the Tower, I don't think anyone would misinterpret that unless they were clueless.

-not to mention that he make the perfect counter (but that could be also luck)


That's where it gets iffy. There are other reasons to get a Raven though, such as PDD or ADT.

I will say it's suspicious but I really don't think you have enough evidence to support that he was hacking.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24648 Posts
November 28 2010 22:09 GMT
#11
On November 29 2010 07:00 RageOverdose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2010 05:21 LuDwig- wrote:
http://www.mediafire.com/?vot2oteudaka8yg


I don't know if it is an alredy discussed issue..but however..i have the sad feeling that Maphack has been released...look at this user:

User Freelife @ Europe

Why am i saying this?
I know map hack accusation is serious issue but:
-he scouts me position immediatly (cross positions)


Some people choose cross position to scout first. I've even done it, even though it's not really a great idea.

In the wise words of BigBalls:

The idea behind scouting here is, you scout in the direction that will change your strategy. Under normal circumstances on LT, I would 1 gate while on guillotine I would 2 gate. However, in the special close position scenario on LT and far position on guillotine, I would adapt my normal strategy.


Therefore there will often be times (depending on your strats) where you should scout to a base other than the closest one. However, at the lower levels people will just scout however the hell they want (and by lower levels I mean pretty much everyone who isn't in contention for a top finish at a major event).

So yea don't get too suspicious simply because of scouting direction.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
IndyStarCraft 237
ZombieGrub155
UpATreeSC 91
JuggernautJason75
ForJumy 37
EnDerr 5
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 2951
Rain 1443
Dewaltoss 159
HiyA 88
ajuk12(nOOB) 19
Dota 2
monkeys_forever168
League of Legends
Dendi1639
Counter-Strike
fl0m6610
olofmeister2184
Stewie2K307
Foxcn306
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu603
Other Games
summit1g7074
tarik_tv6207
Grubby2733
FrodaN788
C9.Mang0734
Sick84
ViBE51
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream5297
Other Games
BasetradeTV141
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH187
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• intothetv
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 36
• Azhi_Dahaki27
• Rasowy 10
• ZZZeroYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21645
• WagamamaTV202
League of Legends
• Doublelift2787
• TFBlade1715
Other Games
• imaqtpie1552
• Shiphtur403
Upcoming Events
OSC
3m
ArT vs ReBellioN
HonMonO vs Ziomek
Shameless vs LunaSea
MilkiCow vs GgMaChine
Moja vs HiGhDrA
Jumy vs TBD
Demi vs NightPhoenix
Solar vs Cham
Replay Cast
3h 3m
OSC
3h 3m
WardiTV Invitational
14h 3m
HiGhDrA vs Nicoract
MaNa vs HiGhDrA
HiGhDrA vs Reynor
Nicoract vs Reynor
MaNa vs Nicoract
MaNa vs Reynor
MaxPax vs Spirit
Krystianer vs Spirit
OSC
16h 3m
Korean StarCraft League
1d 6h
SOOP
1d 12h
sOs vs Percival
CranKy Ducklings
1d 13h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 14h
Cheesadelphia
1d 18h
[ Show More ]
CSO Cup
1d 20h
GSL Code S
2 days
Rogue vs herO
Classic vs GuMiho
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Cure vs Percival
ByuN vs Spirit
RSL Revival
5 days
herO vs sOs
Zoun vs Clem
Replay Cast
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Serral vs SHIN
Solar vs Cham
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 17: Qualifier 2
BGE Stara Zagora 2025
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
2025 GSL S2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025

Upcoming

Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Murky Cup #2
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.