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cerebralz
Profile Joined August 2009
United States443 Posts
November 20 2010 11:16 GMT
#21
Great article Diggity! I dislike Idra's behavior at times, although of late, he's been super good for the community publicly. I'm not sure if privately during his ladder games he's not, but i cant confirm or deny this.

There are two main reasons I root for Idra. One is because he represents the foreigner community and took the cracks of a B-team progamer, which few people have been able to duplicate. The other is because as a zerg player, the ways that Idra loses are the same ways I lose. There are very few games where Idra is outmacro'd, although i bet they do exist. When he loses it's because he didn't account for this or that, or there was hidden tech, or hidden expo, or X-unit that happens to crush his composition. As a normal run-of-the-mill diamond NA player that's EXACTLY how i lose! It's frustrating and infuriating. In that way, he really does represent myself, but on a pro level.

Another thing is that his confidence and work ethic are admirable. People rant about that he hasn't won that many 1st place titles, but has anyone yet? I don't think you can say that any one player, Korean or foreigner that has really dominated as much as their fans would like.
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
November 20 2010 13:13 GMT
#22
On November 20 2010 10:00 Diggity wrote:
First of all let me say that as far as I can tell Idra never releases replays of his victories. Most likely because he wants to maintain a competitive edge (I assume Tyler does the same).

I learned this the hard way as I tried desperately to find a long drawn out macro fight featuring high level zerg players. I very quickly realized that every replay featuring Idra outside of mlg resulted in an Idra loss. It was almost a spoiler downloading the replay itself.


On November 20 2010 16:07 gotlucky wrote:
Wow I didn't realize that. Has anyone (ie Artosis or IdrA) confirmed this? You have me really curious now.


Several months ago Artosis made an interview with Idra on behalf of his fanclub, with questions collected by us. When asked whether he plans to start releasing replays at all, he said he's not going to and he never has because he doesn't want people to see how he plays and that usually people who publish replays are just bragging anyway.

People point to Idra's losses to Nony as evidence of his lack of skill. This is taking HUGEEEEE credit from Nony. Nony classically has had some of the strongest PvZ outside of Korea. He simply understands the matchup. He almost made it through courage in his first run! He fielded builds against Idra that were later emulated to the destruction of a lot of Zerg.

It was not just Tyler's build. The whole Liquid clan had been preparing strategies aimed at Idra specifically during their preparation for MLG.
Metalwing
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Turkey1038 Posts
November 20 2010 13:19 GMT
#23
Fuck the haters, don't hate if you can't cross. That's what I think. This is IdrA or anyone else. That does NOT FUCKING MATTER. Keep your ideas about his gameplay or BM for himself, or try to teach him on the hard way. Because "ZOMG I hate idra he's so bm and he always insults us, the terran players" is just not good any more.
#1 CheckPrime fan // Terrans gonna Terran
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-20 17:16:02
November 20 2010 17:13 GMT
#24
I think Idra spends his concentration way too much on macro, and that is a huge weakness. You match another pure macro player up against him, yeah he has a good chance to win. And in this day and age that's what most B-teamers are, and that's what everyone in the foreign community is looking at when they see top level play. But when you see a smart player duke it out with Idra, or even a player who just knows there is more to SC than macro, you see Idra lose to some stuff he really shouldn't be for someone who is so glorified by Artosis.

I think Idra is extremely skilled at macro, but I don't think he's a well rounded player which in my own subjective definition of the term, is not a good player. Hopefully he'll be in a game house with a smart player who speaks English and can teach him the value of other parts of the game.

Edit: I don't even care about Idra BM. I might not have thought much of it in the beginning when he was a nobody, but now that it is kind of his thing, it's hard to go back now. I don't even think he truly believes what he says now, although if he does it might be the reason he keeps losing to styles of play he doesn't approve of.
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Moletrap
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1297 Posts
November 20 2010 22:10 GMT
#25
Yeah, Diggity, watch some experienced casters why dontcha! lolololol

But yeah, I never understand people who criticize Idra's play... maybe if he wasn't top 30 in the world I could see your opinion of him as a person running over into your thoughts on his play, but since he is it's just ridiculous to make such claims.
aka Moletrap
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
November 20 2010 23:36 GMT
#26
I agree that people calling Idra skill-less is a bit overrated, but I also think his skills don't deserve the amount and intensity of his fans.
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1685 Posts
November 20 2010 23:55 GMT
#27
tbh diggity you are probably one of the casters who pretty blatantly favor one player throughout a cast.
Kishkumen
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States650 Posts
November 21 2010 00:03 GMT
#28
On November 20 2010 10:32 baller wrote:
it is OK if u r a fan of a player. even if u cast, u can be a fan of a player. but u must not let fanship make ur commentaries biased. if u need some help being fair balanced casts and not being 2 biased to idra, check out some experienced casters like husky or HD, they do a good job of being excited about both players usually

On November 20 2010 10:54 baller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2010 10:47 Gaius Romanus wrote:
yo, diggity has been casting for years now. I watch both hd and husky but IMO diggity is a much better caster.

caster is like women, some fans like 1 caster some fans like other. u cannot say 1 is better or worse bc its personal opinions (other than subscriber #s). but this blog not about comparing caster, its about diggity and idra, plz dont turn it into another debate.

Hahahahahaha. These posts are so hilarious. If it wasn't baller, I would have totally thought they were serious. Excellent parody.
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Sleight
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
2471 Posts
November 21 2010 00:11 GMT
#29
I frankly can't believe anyone would accuse Diggity of anything other than being NPR for SC. His smooth delivery and clever insight both inform and entertain us. Sure, like NPR, he may or may not have a certain inclination to 100% organic, fair-trade, cruelty-free, hemp Zerg players, i.e. IdrA, but that surely doesn't impugn his journalistic integrity.

Diggity is a legend, like Paul Bunyon, Santa Claus, or Global Warming, but bigger, nicer, and hotter, than those respectively. Diggity is so good at casting, his wife made him sign a contract when they got married that he'd have to narrate her play-by-play for at least one day per week, but he goes ahead and does it every day because he knows how much it means to her.

Diggity is so nice that instead of competing in Korea and becoming the true BW Bonjwa, he tutored Jaedong and then Flash, because he knew it meant more for Koreans to stay on top.

Klaz didn't quit casting because he got tired or didn't have the time, he stopped because, like the Elves in Tolkien novels, his era had ended and he got on a ship to some to sacred place no one has ever returned from (the Bahamas). He left knowing that Diggity would be there to keep up safe from bad casting and missing great games.

Diggity, without you, the American access to Korean BW would have been a fraction as well informed or soothed by your ability to express Manlove for the Mantoss that each and every nerd has struggled with his own ability to convey in ways consistent with a largely homophobic and hostile community.

Thank you for your time, sir. Thank you for saving the world, in your own special way.
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