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KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14893 Posts
November 15 2010 01:53 GMT
#61
I find the chances of any company giving 2 craps about you joining (for example) the asian student association at your uni, or an acapella group at your univeristy, or whatever, to be pretty low. They don't want a diverse group of people, they want people who are proven to be hard working, qualified, knowledgeable, and the way you show that is by doing work and doing research in your field or interning in your field, not by doing these fun activities unfortunately.
crazeman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
664 Posts
November 15 2010 04:54 GMT
#62
I find the chances of any company giving 2 craps about you joining (for example) the asianstudent association at your uni, or an acapella group at your univeristy, or whatever, to be pretty low. They don't want a diverse group of people, they want people who are proven to be hard working, qualified, knowledgeable, and the way you show that is by doing work and doing research in your field or interning in your field, not by doing these fun activities unfortunately.


This is probably true but when you come out of college with nothing on your resume, it's better than nothing. "President of <asian club>" sounds decent even though the club probably doesn't do shit. I'd take any working experience/internships over this though.

Also weirdly enough, I once had a interview where the interviewer went to the same school I did and was involved with the same asian club. we ended up talking a little about the club's yearly event to break the ice. That was probably a one in a million chance though
AppleTart
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1261 Posts
November 15 2010 07:44 GMT
#63
On November 15 2010 13:54 crazeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
I find the chances of any company giving 2 craps about you joining (for example) the asianstudent association at your uni, or an acapella group at your univeristy, or whatever, to be pretty low. They don't want a diverse group of people, they want people who are proven to be hard working, qualified, knowledgeable, and the way you show that is by doing work and doing research in your field or interning in your field, not by doing these fun activities unfortunately.


This is probably true but when you come out of college with nothing on your resume, it's better than nothing. "President of <asian club>" sounds decent even though the club probably doesn't do shit. I'd take any working experience/internships over this though.

Also weirdly enough, I once had a interview where the interviewer went to the same school I did and was involved with the same asian club. we ended up talking a little about the club's yearly event to break the ice. That was probably a one in a million chance though


Although it is a one in a million chance, getting involved still increased your chances!
always tired -_-
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
November 15 2010 17:38 GMT
#64
On November 15 2010 03:42 MaRiNe23 wrote:
Yea, i mentioned this earlier but this is more of the standard GPA I hear from aerospace and industrial and other engineers at my school all the time.

Yeah, but those are other engineering students, not professional engineers. Why would you compare yourself to those guys?
All the high GPA people I knew were set after graduation. All the low GPA people I knew struggled to find a job if they didn't have an internship beforehand.
Seriously, most people in college are absolutely clueless in how to use it to their advantage. Don't be one of them. I was. High GPA matters, and people who don't have it are scrubs. Do you want to be a scrub too?
Also in regards to the rest of your post, which do you think has more weight?: having a job or volunteering? or do they both have the same weight?

Obviously you want to do something that challenges you and you can't make that kind of assumption based on whether it's paid or not. Do you want someone who makes $8/hr sweeping the floors at McDonald's, or do you want a volunteer who helps organize a sci-fi convention serving 20000 people with a budget of $20 million? Do you want someone who does paid research for the university, or the Asian Club President whose tasks consist purely of organizing parties?
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
November 22 2010 03:41 GMT
#65
Thanks guys, I'm not the OP but I learned a lot from this thread.

I think I'll start preparing for a summer internship soon. Hopefully being an electrical engineer in a big city make up for my low gpa for finding work.

I have very little work experience, but I think my reference will speak well of me.

I'm also doing robotics this year, it's a small time commitment but it will give me something to talk about when I'm looking for a job, and will show how well rounded I am.

I have to try harder in school, but I already know this.
TunaFishyMe
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada150 Posts
November 22 2010 04:27 GMT
#66
On November 16 2010 02:38 kainzero wrote:
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On November 15 2010 03:42 MaRiNe23 wrote:
Yea, i mentioned this earlier but this is more of the standard GPA I hear from aerospace and industrial and other engineers at my school all the time.

Yeah, but those are other engineering students, not professional engineers. Why would you compare yourself to those guys?
All the high GPA people I knew were set after graduation. All the low GPA people I knew struggled to find a job if they didn't have an internship beforehand.
Seriously, most people in college are absolutely clueless in how to use it to their advantage. Don't be one of them. I was. High GPA matters, and people who don't have it are scrubs. Do you want to be a scrub too?
Show nested quote +
Also in regards to the rest of your post, which do you think has more weight?: having a job or volunteering? or do they both have the same weight?

Obviously you want to do something that challenges you and you can't make that kind of assumption based on whether it's paid or not. Do you want someone who makes $8/hr sweeping the floors at McDonald's, or do you want a volunteer who helps organize a sci-fi convention serving 20000 people with a budget of $20 million? Do you want someone who does paid research for the university, or the Asian Club President whose tasks consist purely of organizing parties?

This guy is completely right. Top companies screen by marks. They have easily 20-30k applicants a year. you really think they are going to read everyone? That's why if you are top of the classes, chances are, you get more interviews and more offers. You might be smarter, but on paper you aren't. And unless you have something else like work experience or volunteer experience that is RELEVANT to show you are more capable for the job, probably won't get the chance to even prove yourself.

Don't be a fool. Marks do matter. From highest to least importance. Marks > Work Experience >>>> Volunteer/EC. If you have more work experience, you can have less marks.
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