EPTOn November 14 2010 09:28 iEchoic wrote:
Generally you won't get hired for internships until your Junior year.
Generally you won't get hired for internships until your Junior year.
After your Junior year or before your Junior year?
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airtown
United States410 Posts
After your Junior year or before your Junior year? | ||
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iEchoic
United States1776 Posts
On November 14 2010 09:34 4iner wrote: After your Junior year or before your Junior year? Usually after, but sometimes before. There are some cases where people get internships before their Junior year but from my experience, companies really want to get you before you go into your senior year as you'll be more knowledgeable and if they like you they can pick you up for a permanent position a year later if they like you. I'd say you'd want to look into internships after your sophomore year (summer before Junior year). You might get a hit. If not, you'll have a better chance next year. | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4420 Posts
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crazeman
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If you can't get internships, try to get part time jobs, volunteer a little or heck join a club and run for a position in the club. Most clubs don't do shit anyhow and tons of people join clubs just to put something on their resume. Try to get a position though, I don't think attending clubs actually mean anything on your resume, while something like "Event coordinator for <insert club here>" sounds a lot better. I was in the same boat when I was in college. I was never active enough to join clubs and didn't have to find a job since parents/loans covered the majority of my college cost. My resume was literally blank (I had one job in construction when I was a junior in HS, and my major is computer science) and I literally had nothing on there. When I started looking at job postings after I graduated, every company basically wanted at least 3-4+ years of experience and a slew of other requirements. it also didn't help that I have 0 interview experience and basically had to mass interviews just to learn how to get better. When I graduated I was so desperate to put something on my shitty resume, that I was working for free for an "internship" (big quotes) in a computer repair store. The asshole jewish boss (I'm not being racist... he was Jewish and I swear he turned me into a racist from working under him  ) was literally working me 10 hours a day, 6 days a week for FREE and he had the audacity to complain when he asked if I was going to show up for Thanksgiving and I said no. oh and it took me an hour and a half to get to the shop one way because I had to take public transportation. 10 hours a day + 3 hours transportation + 8 hours of sleep = 21 hours taken already and I always spent a good hour and a half applying to at least 5 jobs a day and continue reading my certification books because I hated the fact that I was working there so much...I'm not sure how much the "internship" (aka slave labor) helped but I felt like I got a lot more interviews after I put the experience on my resume (I was getting a lot more phone interviews and was getting 1-2 interviews a week as opposed to 1-2 every few weeks). The experience wasn't really important but it did help me fill out my resume a lot. I quit the shitty store after a month but in interviews I always exaggerate a little and say that I did it for at least a couple of months and made up some BS reason on why I left. A few weeks after I quit, I got hired as at a IT gig at some financial firm so I guess it was worth it. I ended up only working at the firm for a few months (got laid off) but at least I don't have to use big ass fonts on my resume to fill up space anymore. Not saying this shittiness will happen to you but you should take advantage of internships when you can... esp if you want to find work in your field. Honestly I doubt I'll ever find anything in programming nowadays just because every programming job description has ridiculous programming experience requirements. | ||
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airtown
United States410 Posts
On November 14 2010 09:37 iEchoic wrote: Usually after, but sometimes before. There are some cases where people get internships before their Junior year but from my experience, companies really want to get you before you go into your senior year as you'll be more knowledgeable and if they like you they can pick you up for a permanent position a year later if they like you. I'd say you'd want to look into internships after your sophomore year (summer before Junior year). You might get a hit. If not, you'll have a better chance next year. Well damn, that kinda sucks since I'm planning on graduating from college in three years (still with a max of 17 hours of classes per semester). Maybe I'll have to extend it to 3.5 years. How does the naming/labeling (freshman, sophomore, etc.) work if you're graduating in three years? | ||
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Amnesia
United States3818 Posts
Idk what I am gonna do. Probably apply to some internships and hope for the best lol >_<;;;; | ||
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lvatural
United States347 Posts
Bottom line is don't take a 3rd summer school semester and get an internship instead. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On November 14 2010 09:57 Amnesia wrote: Dude, I'm in the same position as you. Have had minimum paying jobs, but really not the work experience related to my major. I'm a junior and majoring in statistics/math and yeah...I'm fucked. Idk what I am gonna do. Probably apply to some internships and hope for the best lol >_<;;;; Get a research job this summer. They sucks the big one, but they're soooooo worth having on your resume so you can sit there shooting the shit with the person giving you an interview (if they're someone in your field of work and have gone through a research program. They all suck, there are no exceptions) Edit: I really hope I'm not thinking too far out of bounds here but try looking for a roomate on TL or someone who will let you stay at their place cheap. I know I'd be willing to help out someone from this community. | ||
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Amnesia
United States3818 Posts
On November 14 2010 10:22 Risen wrote: Get a research job this summer. They sucks the big one, but they're soooooo worth having on your resume so you can sit there shooting the shit with the person giving you an interview (if they're someone in your field of work and have gone through a research program. They all suck, there are no exceptions) Any tips about getting one? I mean, I was in Engineering a few years ago, did horrible. Now I switched majors and my GPA is looking A LOT better because I've been getting good grades consistently ever since. Only hoping for it to get better. So imo grades are not the issue, but getting the work experience necssary is needed. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
They're called REUs people and they work wonders http://www.nsf.gov/crssprgm/reu/list_result.cfm?unitid=5044 This is just mathematics Edit: http://www.nsf.gov/crssprgm/reu/reu_search.cfm The general search for REUs annnnd... Funding page http://www.nsf.gov/funding/pgm_summ.jsp?pims_id=5517&from=fund | ||
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Amnesia
United States3818 Posts
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On November 14 2010 10:28 Amnesia wrote: Why thank you good sir. <3Seriously if you can get funded take that route, you get to be your own boss and that's what I did (just find a professor to go along with it) But I have a lot of friends who went the already established program route. (If you wind up needing help with Thermoacoustics hit me up haha) | ||
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MaRiNe23
United States747 Posts
1) I heard someone mention that you need a 3.0 GPA? What if my GPA is like low..is it still possible for me? 2) I'm not a Junior yet, But I'll be a Junior after this semester is over(going by credit hours)so since I'm currently a 2nd semester sophmore, will I be okay since I'll be a Junior next semester? | ||
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lvatural
United States347 Posts
On November 14 2010 11:33 MaRiNe23 wrote: Ok so I made another edit after re-reading the thread several times and making my decision. I'm gonna try to find an intern but I just have two more questions. 1) I heard someone mention that you need a 3.0 GPA? What if my GPA is like low..is it still possible for me? 2) I'm not a Junior yet, But I'll be a Junior after this semester is over(going by credit hours)so since I'm currently a 2nd semester sophmore, will I be okay since I'll be a Junior next semester? Go to your school guidance counselor. With a GPA<3.0 and 2 years w/ summers but still a sophmore by credit means there's something wrong (w/ regard to scheduling, courses, etc...). I'm sure they can help you much more than we can. Unless you want to post your transcript or something...but I'm doubtful you want to do so. | ||
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caelym
United States6429 Posts
tl;dr: get better grades and volunteer P.S. do you have any cool or noteworthy personal projects? Like some useful website you made for fun or some car you built (you get the point). Those things are pretty good for resumes. There's also a section of the resume for "skills" like Java programming, Photoshop, etc. Try to make that look impressive. | ||
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lac29
United States1485 Posts
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MaRiNe23
United States747 Posts
On November 14 2010 11:59 caelym wrote: frankly speaking, you're in a very shitty position: no work experience and terrible gpa. you should apply to internships and programs but seriously you have very slim chances (unless it's at a random university desperate for manpower). you're best chance is to start picking up the slack in grades and get your ass out there into the real world and try to get some volunteer positions. Ask labs and companies if they need an extra hand to help out and don't expect to get paid. Think about it, why would they paid you? tl;dr: get better grades and volunteer P.S. do you have any cool or noteworthy personal projects? Like some useful website you made for fun or some car you built (you get the point). Those things are pretty good for resumes. There's also a section of the resume for "skills" like Java programming, Photoshop, etc. Try to make that look impressive. I'm currently in a Beginner's C Programming class and I kept all the programs that I made so far. They all compile and run just fine. Lol does that count? | ||
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caelym
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MaRiNe23
United States747 Posts
Like I'm going through my options and I really wanna intern but i have to first raise my GPA so like the only other options are to volunteer like u said or like do my workstudy or try to find a job at walmart or something part time. | ||
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lac29
United States1485 Posts
On November 14 2010 13:12 caelym wrote: no, programming exercises for classes don't count. I'm talking about things like iphone apps, web apps, beautifully designed websites, etc. I don't think he's going into any of that ... it doesn't help him with his Industrial Engineering stuff. It's always nice to have side projects to diversify yourself but I think it's more urgent to get him focused on his actual major and what he'll be doing out of college (or try to be doing). Asking profs about IE research usually doesn't involve them looking at your GPA unless it's ultracompetitive. I think that's an easier way to go than the internship route which basically requires you to have a resume that will show your GPA is below 3.0. Find an Ind Engineering mentor to actually guide you ... you'll probably get better answers and more specific answers in regards to your actual final profession. Edit: You really need to get your GPA up ... if you actually wanna get a good Ind Engineering job. Just set some goals for yourself. Even a 3.2 vs a 3.0 makes a big different imo. Grades are really an "easy" way for companies to pass you over when you start looking for jobs out of college. | ||
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