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bbq ftw
Profile Joined September 2010
United States139 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-14 04:45:15
November 14 2010 04:40 GMT
#41
On November 14 2010 09:52 4iner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2010 09:37 iEchoic wrote:
On November 14 2010 09:34 4iner wrote:
On November 14 2010 09:28 iEchoic wrote:
Generally you won't get hired for internships until your Junior year.

After your Junior year or before your Junior year?


Usually after, but sometimes before. There are some cases where people get internships before their Junior year but from my experience, companies really want to get you before you go into your senior year as you'll be more knowledgeable and if they like you they can pick you up for a permanent position a year later if they like you.

I'd say you'd want to look into internships after your sophomore year (summer before Junior year). You might get a hit. If not, you'll have a better chance next year.

Well damn, that kinda sucks since I'm planning on graduating from college in three years (still with a max of 17 hours of classes per semester). Maybe I'll have to extend it to 3.5 years.

How does the naming/labeling (freshman, sophomore, etc.) work if you're graduating in three years?

Are you going to grad school? If so, research experience is generally the primary determining aspect of your admission chances.

If its a major where you can get a job out of undergrad then ... I'm not very qualified to give you advice.
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
November 14 2010 04:43 GMT
#42
I was only giving examples of side projects to beef up his resume. In the end, it's about grades and initiative.
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Phant
Profile Joined August 2010
United States737 Posts
November 14 2010 06:49 GMT
#43
I'm in the same situation, except I'm in a Senior in Mechanical Engineering.

I haven't been able to work a minimum wage-type job because I am physically unable to stand for long periods of time or do any type of heavy lifting, knocking out 99% of minimum wage jobs.

And it's not like I don't have any free time. I have ALL the free time in the world, I can easily work a 40 hour a week job with my class schedule and still do fine (got a 3.95 GPA).

I can't get crap, I've gotten into every honor society, have fantastic references, done well in all my classes, gotten recommendations, know people in the work force, had them put in good words for me. and STILL can't get an internship, no matter what I do. On top of that NOBODY is hiring anymore.

Ok sorry for that little rant, I just had to get it out haha.

I'm starting to lose hope...
AppleTart
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1261 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-14 07:08:46
November 14 2010 07:03 GMT
#44
I am a 4th year biomedical engineering student at Georgia Institute of Technology
There are a few things to consider based on my experiences and experiences of close friends:

1. Unfortunately... the prestige of your school does matter when finding jobs. When people look to hire, they generally like to hire people from "better" schools. For example, an engineer from Georgia Tech or MIT will turn heads when employers see that on the resume, but an engineer from a school like Kenesaw State.... not so much... Also lots of companies go to the "better" schools for hiring fairs and stuff because they know they can find quality people there without much effort.

2. GPA matters heavily.... I have asked employers before and they have visited us. I asked them what really goes on when they look to hire. They say that the first thing they do is sort you by GPA and literally cut off 90% of the applications straight off... The second thing they do is look at the bottom 5% (of the top 10%) and what schools they are from. If you are not from a "good" school then they just throw you away. The remaining 5% they actually sit down and read. You must realize they get THOUSANDS of application for ONE position and there's really no shortage of applicants. Then they usually interview a few and pick one. Jobs are super super hard to find now...

3. Connections matter as well... If you know a professor who is well connected or have had some sort of little internship or some sort of exposure, it helps TREMENDOUSLY. I know friends from lower GPA ranges who have gotten nice jobs because the professor they did research for knew a lot of big names in the industry and sorta helped them get in.

4. Lots of people have higher degrees. A Bachelors now is becoming weaker and weaker in the competitive market because so many people now are going to graduate school for Masters or Ph.D. and you really cannot compete with that. Higher degrees are pretty much a necessity if you want to hit those high end jobs.

5. Major Matters. Engineering right now has some of the most opportunities because engineers actually make and design product and have high practical skills. Computer science is also very powerful. Basically majors always with opportunity are related to computers or some sort of chemical or medical applications. Those jobs are always abundant because well.. people always need computing and well the other two are explanatory.

My advice to you OP is to go ahead and try to get into a good graduate school and get a Masters. Then when you put your GPA down you can put your graduate school GPA which if you work your ass off you can get a great GPA. A masters also puts you ahead of those with Bachelors as well.

To increase your chances of getting into a good gradschool:

1. Work harder... buff up your grades as much as you can.
2. Get Internships for experience or research in a lab. You need something else other than just classes. You gotta have some sort of work or lab experience. It also helps you know professors or employers better so they can write stronger recommendations.
3. Don't give up!
always tired -_-
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2525 Posts
November 14 2010 07:16 GMT
#45
The military paid off all my college debt and is basically going to put my wife and daughter through college for free. Being in the military, no matter what branch, is going to look like a huge blinking neon sign that says hire me to any company. Note that having a degree can let you go through officer canidate school, but I wouldn't reccomend it. You can get experience in pretty much any field of work you do in the real world, in the military.
Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
November 14 2010 09:38 GMT
#46
not to be harsh, but if you haven't joined any clubs or internships these past 2 years and have been focusing solely on your academics, why is your gpa sub 3.0? i think that a certain lack of experience/jobs/extracurriculars may be overlooked if your workload and grades are very impressive, but not so much otherwise. but maybe your major is really competitive and has a lot of grade deflation, in which case hopefully it wont count against you as much..
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17010 Posts
November 14 2010 09:50 GMT
#47
On November 14 2010 15:49 phant wrote:
I'm in the same situation, except I'm in a Senior in Mechanical Engineering.

I haven't been able to work a minimum wage-type job because I am physically unable to stand for long periods of time or do any type of heavy lifting, knocking out 99% of minimum wage jobs.

And it's not like I don't have any free time. I have ALL the free time in the world, I can easily work a 40 hour a week job with my class schedule and still do fine (got a 3.95 GPA).

I can't get crap, I've gotten into every honor society, have fantastic references, done well in all my classes, gotten recommendations, know people in the work force, had them put in good words for me. and STILL can't get an internship, no matter what I do. On top of that NOBODY is hiring anymore.

Ok sorry for that little rant, I just had to get it out haha.

I'm starting to lose hope...


I find this incredibly difficult to believe.
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AppleTart
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1261 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-14 17:17:01
November 14 2010 17:14 GMT
#48
OP:
Do I really need a good resume with many references,volunteer hours,extracurriculers,job experience when I honestly been investing all of my time into studying and taking courses during the summer? I mean everyone learns at a different pace..not everyone can work multiple jobs and hold a 3.0 GPA in engineering.


A couple.. er trio of things:
1. You are right, not everyone can do all of that, but SOME people can and guess what, they are the ones who get the few jobs available because they are just more competitive...
2. If you are investing all your time studying and your GPA is still bad... then there really isn't much to say
3. Some people are slower at learning (different pace) so why should employers purposefully look at slow learners when hiring? If you suck at school you better be damn good at something else.
always tired -_-
Phant
Profile Joined August 2010
United States737 Posts
November 14 2010 17:37 GMT
#49
On November 14 2010 18:50 Empyrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2010 15:49 phant wrote:
I'm in the same situation, except I'm in a Senior in Mechanical Engineering.

I haven't been able to work a minimum wage-type job because I am physically unable to stand for long periods of time or do any type of heavy lifting, knocking out 99% of minimum wage jobs.

And it's not like I don't have any free time. I have ALL the free time in the world, I can easily work a 40 hour a week job with my class schedule and still do fine (got a 3.95 GPA).

I can't get crap, I've gotten into every honor society, have fantastic references, done well in all my classes, gotten recommendations, know people in the work force, had them put in good words for me. and STILL can't get an internship, no matter what I do. On top of that NOBODY is hiring anymore.

Ok sorry for that little rant, I just had to get it out haha.

I'm starting to lose hope...


I find this incredibly difficult to believe.


What do you think I'm saying to myself?

I put in applications to a few more today that were just put up. Hopefully something happens.

We shall see.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
November 14 2010 17:38 GMT
#50
I graduated in Aerospace Engineering from UCSD with a 2.6 GPA, no experience.

It was difficult finding a job. I would get instantly excluded after they asked me what my GPA is. After a year I gave up and needed money so I took a job as a game tester.

Once I did that, I actually got interview requests for the engineering jobs and I actually landed one... so work experience is important. Even if it's not relevant.

Going back in time, I would...
1: Get a better GPA. If I'm not doing anything I should've at least done this.
2: Picked up some sort of work. If not an internship, just something to make money. Making money is important, it's what life is all about, everything revolves around it. It actually doesn't matter how much you make as long as you can get by and save a good portion and manage your money properly.
3: Went to office hours for classes with cool professors. Ask questions, make sure they know who you are, then later on you can approach them for recommendations or they can help you find internships/jobs/research etc. This can soften the blow of a low GPA, if your professor likes you and sees that you're putting in a lot of effort. Almost everyone I've talked to who graduated, this is their #1 regret.
4: Talked to career counselors. I don't know how it is in your school but I had both a career center and a counselor in the engineering department and I regretted not seeing them because they could've helped out immensely.

You're only a 2nd year so you have plenty of time. Just don't waste it.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14899 Posts
November 14 2010 17:55 GMT
#51
It's hard to get internships after your first year, so if you want to get relevant experience you should look for an undergraduate research position
After your second year it's possible but still not easy, so doing another undergrad research position is not a bad idea
After your third year once you've built up some credentials and have a good recommendation from one (hopefully two) PI's (or one super good one if u stay in the same lab) it's much easier to get an internship
Servius_Fulvius
Profile Joined August 2009
United States947 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-14 18:35:25
November 14 2010 18:32 GMT
#52
I had a similar issue with getting chemical engineering work experience.

What you're describing is a huge circle. To get a job you need work experience. To get work experience you need an internship or co-op. The best way to get an internship or co-op is with work experience.

Breaking into this circle is tough. I interviewed over 10 times over two years before getting an internship. You just have to keep with it.

Some employers care about GPA, but that's more of a concern if you want to go to grad school. Sure, the top students in your class will probably get internships themselves, but don't worry about it. Keep applying. Employers understand your classes are hard - they've been there and they probably struggled too! They're not interested so much in what you've done but what you can do for them.

Go to all available career fairs and utilize a university career services center or job posting site if available (most universities have one of the two). These will get you the interviews.

Don't go into the interview with a chip on your shoulder thinking you won't get the job. Employers go in to find a good fit for their company and yes, I have lost out to many students with a lower GPA (mine was 3.15). You also want a company that would be a good fit for you, but when trying to break into the experience circle take whatever you can get!

A good resume also speaks very well of you. Edit the crap out of it. Show it to professors for their input and then edit again. Print the final version on resume paper.
MaRiNe23
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States747 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-14 18:44:09
November 14 2010 18:42 GMT
#53
On November 15 2010 02:38 kainzero wrote:
I graduated in Aerospace Engineering from UCSD with a 2.6 GPA, no experience.


Yea, i mentioned this earlier but this is more of the standard GPA I hear from aerospace and industrial and other engineers at my school all the time.

Also in regards to the rest of your post, which do you think has more weight?: having a job or volunteering? or do they both have the same weight?

ok so after re-re-evaluating my options once again i was thinking about going back to the hospital and volunteering there again this summer and possibly use the ppl i know there for some references maybe? while working on my grades to get a 3.0 i dont know if volunteer looks better or work experience looks better and i def know from this thread alrdy that interns look really good but like i said i need to pull my grades up so ill have to wait on that.

also I made a mistake im still a sophmore. I thought 50 hrs was a junior but its acutrally 60 so sorry for the confusion

Also to Appletart, I go to Texas A&M University but I'm not too sure of its prestige level.
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vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
November 14 2010 19:01 GMT
#54
It depends on what industry you plan on going into but in a lot of cases a college degree means little. Think about it. Everyone applying for the job you want will have your degree or better. In many cases, having a lower degree but more years of experience is better than your degree + no experience.

The degree is like a ticket to the dance. Whether the girl (company) wants to take you will depend on other things, like social skills (you make a favorable impression with the interviewer), reliability (you held a job for a while, did your work and didn't screw up and get fired), and other stuff.

My advice for college students is to stop thinking about your career in terms of degrees/majors. Go to craigslist, or your state department of labor, or the US department of labor and research the various jobs and careers that are out there. Look up the statistics, the salaries, job openings now, future job outlook, etc. Then plan your education towards that job.

Look for a job now. See what knowledge/experience is required (like working with various machines, scientific methods, or specific software), and get those things fulfilled before you graduate. Volunteer if you have to.

The other big thing is social networking. The best way to get a job is to have a friend who is a hiring manager, or your uncle owns the company, or something like that. Knowing people and having connections gives you opportunities. Success = opportunity + preparation. Regardless of how prepared or awesome you are, w/o the opportunity your chance of success will be very low (unless you're brilliant and start your own business and be your own boss, but most ppl aren't that).
Marines > everything
AppleTart
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1261 Posts
November 14 2010 19:15 GMT
#55
On November 15 2010 03:42 MaRiNe23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2010 02:38 kainzero wrote:
I graduated in Aerospace Engineering from UCSD with a 2.6 GPA, no experience.


Yea, i mentioned this earlier but this is more of the standard GPA I hear from aerospace and industrial and other engineers at my school all the time.

Also in regards to the rest of your post, which do you think has more weight?: having a job or volunteering? or do they both have the same weight?

ok so after re-re-evaluating my options once again i was thinking about going back to the hospital and volunteering there again this summer and possibly use the ppl i know there for some references maybe? while working on my grades to get a 3.0 i dont know if volunteer looks better or work experience looks better and i def know from this thread alrdy that interns look really good but like i said i need to pull my grades up so ill have to wait on that.

also I made a mistake im still a sophmore. I thought 50 hrs was a junior but its acutrally 60 so sorry for the confusion

Also to Appletart, I go to Texas A&M University but I'm not too sure of its prestige level.


Volunteering is great, but I would still try to get a job, it still has more weight UNLESS I would say it was some pretty involved volunteering ie. Engineers without Boundries etc.

Top Engineering Undergraduate Programs:
1 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
2 Stanford University
3 University of California--Berkeley
4 California Institute of Technology
Georgia Institute of Technology
6 University of Illinois--Urbana-Champaign
7 University of Michigan--Ann Arbor
8 Carnegie Mellon University
Cornell University
Purdue University--West Lafayette

Top Industrial Engineering Programs:
1 Georgia Institute of Technology
2 University of Michigan--Ann Arbor
3 University of California--Berkeley
4 Northwestern University (McCormick)
Pennsylvania State University--University Park
Stanford University
Virginia Tech
8 Cornell University
Texas A&M University--College Station (Look)
10 Purdue University--West Lafayette
University of Wisconsin--Madison

Texas A&M is a tier 1 industrial engineering school (pretty sweet) and a tier 1.5 overall school (sweet as well)
always tired -_-
lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
November 14 2010 19:20 GMT
#56
The biggest thing is that you need to be PROACTIVE. The real world is pretty harsh on passive people. If you really want to get a good, well-paying Industrial Engineering job out of college you need to grab every opportunity you have while you're in undergrad right now.

So go do stuff. Talk to profs, talk to classmates, talk to upperclassmen who are doing IE, talk to professionals in the IE right now, ask for advice from everyone, schedule meetings with them, call them, look on your school website for research opportunities, volunteer, be friendly and hard-working with everyone you meet, make sure they know who you are, and keep them in the loop after you're done working with them (update ppl on what you're up to even if you haven't seen them in awhile), keep up with your contacts, etc!
MaRiNe23
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States747 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-14 19:47:10
November 14 2010 19:43 GMT
#57
On November 15 2010 04:15 AppleTart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2010 03:42 MaRiNe23 wrote:
On November 15 2010 02:38 kainzero wrote:
I graduated in Aerospace Engineering from UCSD with a 2.6 GPA, no experience.


Yea, i mentioned this earlier but this is more of the standard GPA I hear from aerospace and industrial and other engineers at my school all the time.

Also in regards to the rest of your post, which do you think has more weight?: having a job or volunteering? or do they both have the same weight?

ok so after re-re-evaluating my options once again i was thinking about going back to the hospital and volunteering there again this summer and possibly use the ppl i know there for some references maybe? while working on my grades to get a 3.0 i dont know if volunteer looks better or work experience looks better and i def know from this thread alrdy that interns look really good but like i said i need to pull my grades up so ill have to wait on that.

also I made a mistake im still a sophmore. I thought 50 hrs was a junior but its acutrally 60 so sorry for the confusion

Also to Appletart, I go to Texas A&M University but I'm not too sure of its prestige level.


Volunteering is great, but I would still try to get a job, it still has more weight UNLESS I would say it was some pretty involved volunteering ie. Engineers without Boundries etc.

Top Engineering Undergraduate Programs:
1 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
2 Stanford University
3 University of California--Berkeley
4 California Institute of Technology
Georgia Institute of Technology
6 University of Illinois--Urbana-Champaign
7 University of Michigan--Ann Arbor
8 Carnegie Mellon University
Cornell University
Purdue University--West Lafayette

Top Industrial Engineering Programs:
1 Georgia Institute of Technology
2 University of Michigan--Ann Arbor
3 University of California--Berkeley
4 Northwestern University (McCormick)
Pennsylvania State University--University Park
Stanford University
Virginia Tech
8 Cornell University
Texas A&M University--College Station (Look)
10 Purdue University--West Lafayette
University of Wisconsin--Madison

Texas A&M is a tier 1 industrial engineering school (pretty sweet) and a tier 1.5 overall school (sweet as well)

Ok I'll def try for a part time job then. At this point I'm trying to do whatever I can do make my resume look better and if a job is gonna look better then ill have to just do that.

And what do you mean by "sweet" lol. I still have a blank resume. Even if i go to A&M it wont help me if i dont have a good gpa or a blank resume right?

And like i just wanna thank everyrone again. This has been very helpful.

Two big things i learned is to get a job asap for work experience and raise my grades for intern.

i think ima go study for my exam next week tho. reading this thread several times and thinking up a thoughtful response took up like a ton of my weekend alrdy but nonetheless i dont consider it a waste cuz i learned some thigns that i really need to be doing right now.
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AppleTart
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1261 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-14 19:52:18
November 14 2010 19:46 GMT
#58
On November 15 2010 04:43 MaRiNe23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2010 04:15 AppleTart wrote:
On November 15 2010 03:42 MaRiNe23 wrote:
On November 15 2010 02:38 kainzero wrote:
I graduated in Aerospace Engineering from UCSD with a 2.6 GPA, no experience.


Yea, i mentioned this earlier but this is more of the standard GPA I hear from aerospace and industrial and other engineers at my school all the time.

Also in regards to the rest of your post, which do you think has more weight?: having a job or volunteering? or do they both have the same weight?

ok so after re-re-evaluating my options once again i was thinking about going back to the hospital and volunteering there again this summer and possibly use the ppl i know there for some references maybe? while working on my grades to get a 3.0 i dont know if volunteer looks better or work experience looks better and i def know from this thread alrdy that interns look really good but like i said i need to pull my grades up so ill have to wait on that.

also I made a mistake im still a sophmore. I thought 50 hrs was a junior but its acutrally 60 so sorry for the confusion

Also to Appletart, I go to Texas A&M University but I'm not too sure of its prestige level.


Volunteering is great, but I would still try to get a job, it still has more weight UNLESS I would say it was some pretty involved volunteering ie. Engineers without Boundries etc.

Top Engineering Undergraduate Programs:
1 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
2 Stanford University
3 University of California--Berkeley
4 California Institute of Technology
Georgia Institute of Technology
6 University of Illinois--Urbana-Champaign
7 University of Michigan--Ann Arbor
8 Carnegie Mellon University
Cornell University
Purdue University--West Lafayette

Top Industrial Engineering Programs:
1 Georgia Institute of Technology
2 University of Michigan--Ann Arbor
3 University of California--Berkeley
4 Northwestern University (McCormick)
Pennsylvania State University--University Park
Stanford University
Virginia Tech
8 Cornell University
Texas A&M University--College Station (Look)
10 Purdue University--West Lafayette
University of Wisconsin--Madison

Texas A&M is a tier 1 industrial engineering school (pretty sweet) and a tier 1.5 overall school (sweet as well)

Ok I'll def try for a part time job then. At this point I'm trying to do whatever I can do make my resume look better and if a job is gonna look better then ill have to just do that.

And what do you mean by "sweet" lol. I still have a blank resume. Even if i go to A&M it wont help me if i dont have a good gpa or a blank resume right?


It means you are at least lucky to be in a good school... the rest is up to you, your GPA and your other experiences. You just have to look. I don't think you realize how intense things really are...

Another thing, you seem to be so focused on just filling up space or whatever. Honestly just do what you like and your resume will fill up. If you don't even know what you want to do or even like you have bigger problems.

I am going to grad school next year and before I was just motivated because I was like oh I want to get a Ph.D. and be all badass and stuff. The truth is, after speaking with my professors I realized you really have to be passionate about it. I explored deeper and when I found what I really loved I simply worked my ass off and didn't even realize it. I just really wanted it that badly. My GPA isn't that high either (Ph.D. programs want 3.7s), but the professors I spoke to at Tech and other schools said: "Appletart (well they said my real name), I can hear the excitement in your voice and you seem really passionate about cancer research!" They offered me a spot in their Ph.D. program.
always tired -_-
MaRiNe23
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States747 Posts
November 14 2010 19:53 GMT
#59
On November 15 2010 04:46 AppleTart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2010 04:43 MaRiNe23 wrote:
On November 15 2010 04:15 AppleTart wrote:
On November 15 2010 03:42 MaRiNe23 wrote:
On November 15 2010 02:38 kainzero wrote:
I graduated in Aerospace Engineering from UCSD with a 2.6 GPA, no experience.


Yea, i mentioned this earlier but this is more of the standard GPA I hear from aerospace and industrial and other engineers at my school all the time.

Also in regards to the rest of your post, which do you think has more weight?: having a job or volunteering? or do they both have the same weight?

ok so after re-re-evaluating my options once again i was thinking about going back to the hospital and volunteering there again this summer and possibly use the ppl i know there for some references maybe? while working on my grades to get a 3.0 i dont know if volunteer looks better or work experience looks better and i def know from this thread alrdy that interns look really good but like i said i need to pull my grades up so ill have to wait on that.

also I made a mistake im still a sophmore. I thought 50 hrs was a junior but its acutrally 60 so sorry for the confusion

Also to Appletart, I go to Texas A&M University but I'm not too sure of its prestige level.


Volunteering is great, but I would still try to get a job, it still has more weight UNLESS I would say it was some pretty involved volunteering ie. Engineers without Boundries etc.

Top Engineering Undergraduate Programs:
1 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
2 Stanford University
3 University of California--Berkeley
4 California Institute of Technology
Georgia Institute of Technology
6 University of Illinois--Urbana-Champaign
7 University of Michigan--Ann Arbor
8 Carnegie Mellon University
Cornell University
Purdue University--West Lafayette

Top Industrial Engineering Programs:
1 Georgia Institute of Technology
2 University of Michigan--Ann Arbor
3 University of California--Berkeley
4 Northwestern University (McCormick)
Pennsylvania State University--University Park
Stanford University
Virginia Tech
8 Cornell University
Texas A&M University--College Station (Look)
10 Purdue University--West Lafayette
University of Wisconsin--Madison

Texas A&M is a tier 1 industrial engineering school (pretty sweet) and a tier 1.5 overall school (sweet as well)

Ok I'll def try for a part time job then. At this point I'm trying to do whatever I can do make my resume look better and if a job is gonna look better then ill have to just do that.

And what do you mean by "sweet" lol. I still have a blank resume. Even if i go to A&M it wont help me if i dont have a good gpa or a blank resume right?


it means you are at least lucky to be in a good school... the rest is up to you, your GPA and your other experiences. You just have to look. I don't think you realize how intense things really are...

Another thing, you seem to be so focused on just filling up space or whatever. Honestly just do what you like and your resume will fill up. If you don't even know what you want to do or even like you have bigger problems.

Stuff that i like doing, i cant put on the resume though. I mean I like playing video games and playing the guitar and singing and watching movies. <---i cant put that on a resume

I'm pretty sure you're talking about clubs or organizations that i like? Then yea there are none that i genuinly like. So i think for me a job part-time is the best bet.
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November 14 2010 19:54 GMT
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On November 15 2010 04:53 MaRiNe23 wrote:
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On November 15 2010 04:46 AppleTart wrote:
On November 15 2010 04:43 MaRiNe23 wrote:
On November 15 2010 04:15 AppleTart wrote:
On November 15 2010 03:42 MaRiNe23 wrote:
On November 15 2010 02:38 kainzero wrote:
I graduated in Aerospace Engineering from UCSD with a 2.6 GPA, no experience.


Yea, i mentioned this earlier but this is more of the standard GPA I hear from aerospace and industrial and other engineers at my school all the time.

Also in regards to the rest of your post, which do you think has more weight?: having a job or volunteering? or do they both have the same weight?

ok so after re-re-evaluating my options once again i was thinking about going back to the hospital and volunteering there again this summer and possibly use the ppl i know there for some references maybe? while working on my grades to get a 3.0 i dont know if volunteer looks better or work experience looks better and i def know from this thread alrdy that interns look really good but like i said i need to pull my grades up so ill have to wait on that.

also I made a mistake im still a sophmore. I thought 50 hrs was a junior but its acutrally 60 so sorry for the confusion

Also to Appletart, I go to Texas A&M University but I'm not too sure of its prestige level.


Volunteering is great, but I would still try to get a job, it still has more weight UNLESS I would say it was some pretty involved volunteering ie. Engineers without Boundries etc.

Top Engineering Undergraduate Programs:
1 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
2 Stanford University
3 University of California--Berkeley
4 California Institute of Technology
Georgia Institute of Technology
6 University of Illinois--Urbana-Champaign
7 University of Michigan--Ann Arbor
8 Carnegie Mellon University
Cornell University
Purdue University--West Lafayette

Top Industrial Engineering Programs:
1 Georgia Institute of Technology
2 University of Michigan--Ann Arbor
3 University of California--Berkeley
4 Northwestern University (McCormick)
Pennsylvania State University--University Park
Stanford University
Virginia Tech
8 Cornell University
Texas A&M University--College Station (Look)
10 Purdue University--West Lafayette
University of Wisconsin--Madison

Texas A&M is a tier 1 industrial engineering school (pretty sweet) and a tier 1.5 overall school (sweet as well)

Ok I'll def try for a part time job then. At this point I'm trying to do whatever I can do make my resume look better and if a job is gonna look better then ill have to just do that.

And what do you mean by "sweet" lol. I still have a blank resume. Even if i go to A&M it wont help me if i dont have a good gpa or a blank resume right?


it means you are at least lucky to be in a good school... the rest is up to you, your GPA and your other experiences. You just have to look. I don't think you realize how intense things really are...

Another thing, you seem to be so focused on just filling up space or whatever. Honestly just do what you like and your resume will fill up. If you don't even know what you want to do or even like you have bigger problems.

Stuff that i like doing, i cant put on the resume though. I mean I like playing video games and playing the guitar and singing and watching movies. <---i cant put that on a resume

I'm pretty sure you're talking about clubs or organizations that i like? Then yea there are none that i genuinly like. So i think for me a job part-time is the best bet.


You haven't experienced enough if those are the only things you like. Also there's no reason to write how good your school is on your resume, the school name speaks for itself.
Oh and I also added some more to my last post.

Why do you think your grades are low? Are you overloading yourself? Are you really putting in 100% or are you slacking? If you aren't giving it your all and taking initiative then you need to start working harder. It bothers me sometime that people are like talking about how low their GPA is and saying what are my other outs. Simply put, bring that GPA up. If you study for only an hour a day, man up study four times as much. If you finish your homework, man up and do an extra 10 problems. Instead of playing sc for 3 hours a day, man up and play for 1.5 hours.
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