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MrBGJM
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia124 Posts
November 13 2010 07:36 GMT
#1
I can easily say ZvZ is by FAR my worst matchup. I seriously hate it too....Really hate it. Everytime i ladder and it turns out to be a ZvZ i feel like RQing straight away. Mainly because i know i have a 70% loss rate on my ZvZ's...but practice makes perfect i suppose.

Why do i hate it so?...
Well at least on the SEA server a ZvZ usually just equals to your opponent pooling early and getting 30 lings really fast to vs your 8 roaches...Thats the easy part. Then you get Mutas almost instantly flying in your back door and your lair has barely finished and you need to hydra really fast.

or they just get 50 banes and roll into your base.

It really annoying...it takes 2 banelings to kill 1 baneling...ugh. Just really annoying to deal with for me. Although lately ive been trying to get a fast corrupter or 2 and target some OV's down and force them to either muta or hydra, then go Hydra or baneRoach respectively. That seems to work ok as long as you keep the scoutlings out of your base.

But one thing i do like, is sneaking my 9drone into their base and when my pool pops, build a spinecrawler in the mineral line, in a place thats hard to surround (eg, only 2 drones/lings can hit it) Usually rack up 8-10 kills that way and can early roach push for the win. I dont call it cheese either, cos if the spine fails, you still have a massive economy and can just resume normal play.
And if you really want to make sure the spine goes down, get a few early lings to run around on the outskirts of thier creep to distract them.

Today so far has been a good day to ladder, Earned well over 200 points today. Keep getting opponents that are in gold/plat (NOTE: im silver ) and bnet says that its an even matchup? =\

Anyway all, GL HF GG PEACE :D

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kineSiS-
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Korea (South)1068 Posts
November 13 2010 08:10 GMT
#2
It's probably trying to test oyu out with better opponents to see if you deserve a rank up.
MrBGJM
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia124 Posts
November 13 2010 08:36 GMT
#3
On November 13 2010 17:10 kineSiS- wrote:
It's probably trying to test oyu out with better opponents to see if you deserve a rank up.

Yeah most likely, its been doing that for 3 days now lol

I got the biggest ego stroke when my opponent said "GG, you are too good, cant win" then left the game...I check his profile....1200 PLATINUM!!!!

Banana grin for the next 2 hours.
emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-13 10:22:46
November 13 2010 10:18 GMT
#4
watch this



mutas are actually really easy to deal with, you just need to figure out your lair timing and use overlords to scout. You always need to be active with scouting, the key to mirror match ups is out doing your opponent, whether it be with upgrades in roach vs roach or with 1 infestor with a well placed fungal growth and only a handful of hydras to fight mutas (really, you only need 2 infestors at max and 6 hydras at max, you don't need a lot to hold them off). Also in roach vs roach when supply numbers get high, go for banelings with speed. bane splash damage completely owns groups of roaches and can totally turn the tide of what would normally be a roach vs roach battle.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23430 Posts
November 13 2010 12:27 GMT
#5
mutas can be dealt with with queens, infestors, or even spores until you get queens or infestors. If you have roach, you can go roach/banelings, roaches take out small numbers of ling/banelings and banelings take out any mass.
don't go hydra, hydra are terrible before 10 minutes, they'er only good with roaches, and even then usually not worth skipping infestors/upgrades for.
MrBGJM
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia124 Posts
November 13 2010 13:24 GMT
#6
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 13 2010 19:18 emc wrote:
watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uzRwUElcGg

mutas are actually really easy to deal with, you just need to figure out your lair timing and use overlords to scout. You always need to be active with scouting, the key to mirror match ups is out doing your opponent, whether it be with upgrades in roach vs roach or with 1 infestor with a well placed fungal growth and only a handful of hydras to fight mutas (really, you only need 2 infestors at max and 6 hydras at max, you don't need a lot to hold them off). Also in roach vs roach when supply numbers get high, go for banelings with speed. bane splash damage completely owns groups of roaches and can totally turn the tide of what would normally be a roach vs roach battle.


That helped quite a bit thanks :D
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