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whiteLotus
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King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
Don't know about that guitar though. I only have classical + electric guitars. | ||
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Thegilaboy
United States2018 Posts
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beenizzle
United States141 Posts
 you have the right idea id go with a acoustic guitar first then if you really enjoy it get a electric. i myself currently need to get a electric i need a upgrade from my fender acoustic even though i love it :/ oh yea guitar is an expensive hobbie  | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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whiteLotus
1833 Posts
On November 04 2010 05:28 Thegilaboy wrote: Playing the guitar is great, I find it very relaxing. I've moved away from acoustic and play electric solely now, but that's mostly because I build my own guitars and effect pedals. Acoustic is a good way to start though because you'll learn the basics, and it will actually help grow strength in your fingers faster than electric will simply because of the difference in the string materials. Good luck though, it's a blast! Were you thinking of taking lessons, or going self taught? lessons ofc. I still cant decide guitar or piano :S | ||
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Thegilaboy
United States2018 Posts
On November 04 2010 05:37 whiteLotus wrote: lessons ofc. I still cant decide guitar or piano :S You'll find both very satisfying the more time you put into it. Lessons are good for some, I preferred the self-taught method myself, but that is totally a personal preference. Either way, good luck with it; but whatever you do, do not become the guitar guy at the party... | ||
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McDonalds
Liechtenstein2244 Posts
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King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
On November 04 2010 05:29 beenizzle wrote: playing guitar is very hard and takes a lot of practice to master. But... if you stick with it you'll be happy you did when you can play you have the right idea id go with a acoustic guitar first then if you really enjoy it get a electric. i myself currently need to get a electric i need a upgrade from my fender acoustic even though i love it :/ oh yea guitar is an expensive hobbie ?? Mostly one time costs unless you're constantly getting new pedals or something. Especially since he's playing acoustic it's not like he needs much more than some picks, a strap and a guitar. Only of which picks and strings need to be replaced often but are cheap. Violin strings, now those are freaking expensive. I'm glad I bought them in bulk in China. Also just get a cheap guitar if you're not sure if you want to keep at it. If you don't find it your thing you can sell it for half price and be down maybe 60$. | ||
tofucake
Hyrule19053 Posts
Spend a few dollars on new strings and picks (if you play with picks) every few months That's really it. The best way to get started is obviously 1-on-1 lessons, but if you're cheap you can get away with learning the basic major and minor chords as well as some scales. | ||
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DeckOneBell
United States526 Posts
If you haven't, don't worry, just look around for a good teacher if you're gonna be doing lessons. Piano's just as awesome though. Just depends on what kind of music you want to play at the moment, really. Good luck! | ||
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AnodyneSea
Jamaica757 Posts
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MrProphylactic
296 Posts
Like i said i have an older version , as companies are known to trade in older higher quality name brands , by selling the name to lets say a subcontracted guitar company . or something , so I would research it is the same AE series it has always been ( although ibanez probably would not let a shit guitar get attached to there name .) just make sure it isn't some cheapo imitation . As far as learning guitar ; well to just learn how to bang out some chords is fairly easy , but if you want higher level of playing like anything else it takes some years of dedication to master , I have been a musician for 15 plus years now . And music when taken to proper levels can be immensely rewarding , And nothing gets you laid like music ( only if your good at it though ) on a side note | ||
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beenizzle
United States141 Posts
On November 04 2010 05:53 King K. Rool wrote: ?? Mostly one time costs unless you're constantly getting new pedals or something. Especially since he's playing acoustic it's not like he needs much more than some picks, a strap and a guitar. Only of which picks and strings need to be replaced often but are cheap. Violin strings, now those are freaking expensive. I'm glad I bought them in bulk in China. Also just get a cheap guitar if you're not sure if you want to keep at it. If you don't find it your thing you can sell it for half price and be down maybe 60$. well if your like me you always want a new and better guitar, amps as well | ||
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McDonalds
Liechtenstein2244 Posts
I wouldn't really recommend looking for something cheap. A beginner instrument is fine but the less expensive it is the more you have to worry about quality. You don't need a signature series guitar, of course. Just don't buy a guitar from a department store that comes in a triangular box, or anything similarly suspicious. If nothing else you'll be less tempted to feel handicapped by the quality of the instrument. | ||
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MrProphylactic
296 Posts
This particular guitar i think will be a very good first practice guitar , and it is also a great performance instrument as well , so take good of it , for when you improve AS previously written , this is similar to the series i have , 299 $ is a fantastic price , I would get it . they are not lying about that 600 $ list price , , that is why i am saying be sure it is the real deal ( not sure how online that is the danger) I have the same kind , IT works better through lets say the blond tube amp , and similar types , although solid state amps can also work fine , acoustical amps are the best for it . or full range P.A | ||
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King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
On November 04 2010 06:05 beenizzle wrote: well if your like me you always want a new and better guitar, amps as well Yeah, I know what you mean. I upgraded to tube amps about half a year ago (peavey 5150+ combo), cost me like 600 bucks, which is alot for a poor uni student. Though not terribly excited about graduating, I'm looking forward to having extra cash around from a full-time job to get a really nice guitar. | ||
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whiteLotus
1833 Posts
) its just for myself, sometimes you want to sing something and play guitar ;d | ||
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s.a.y
Croatia3840 Posts
Just like starcraft, you need to practice to get good. | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
On November 04 2010 06:13 whiteLotus wrote: i dont want to play in any bands or anything like that ) its just for myself, sometimes you want to sing something and play guitar ;d then fucking do it man | ||
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Revolt
United States288 Posts
go to a music store and buy a couple music theory books and sheet music. dont try to go to barnes and noble because they lack any decent music books. if you just want to play for yourself, learn how to play the blues, but that's my preference, i can't really play anything by myself unless it's the blues. | ||
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tofucake
Hyrule19053 Posts
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Skyze
Canada2324 Posts
Of course, if the stuff you like to sing/play to is folk music, stuff written for guitar like those old classic songs, American Pie, etc.. then thats where guitar would be beneficial.. I played guitar for 6+ years but recently learning saxophone now, its more into what I want to do. But guitar and Piano are the two instruments that are easiest to learn, but hardest to master. You can play basic stuff in afew weeks, but to be really good, it takes like 5+ years of heavy training. Its rough =[ | ||
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Quasimoto3000
United States471 Posts
Coming from a piano player though | ||
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Kyuukyuu
Canada6263 Posts
As for getting a teacher or not, I blogged about it a long time ago and the response I got was mostly "yes", so I say go for it. | ||
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JMave
Singapore1803 Posts
but of course you can just start out with a decent amp. i'd suggest that you go to a store and get a guitar instead of getting it online. usually in stores you have deals like maybe an acoustic electric guitar with an amp for a better price and you can ask the shop guys what is decent and what's not. | ||
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Coolzx
United States138 Posts
On November 04 2010 05:27 King K. Rool wrote: Guitar is one of the easiest instruments to get started on and not sound like an idiot. As long as you have some semblance of finger control you can learn to play some chords. Don't know about that guitar though. I only have classical + electric guitars. I kind of disagree with it being the easiest to play, i have to give that to the keyboard.. and i don't mean your typing keyboard. Still, it is not that hard, just learn some chords and learn to play them in different ways and you can make some good sound. | ||
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Comeh
United States18918 Posts
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ChubbyChiBee
United Kingdom13 Posts
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howerpower
United States619 Posts
I'm very self motivated so teaching myself was the best way to learn guitar, and with the internet you really don't need a teacher unless that's something you really want. It's really important to note that guitar is one of the more difficult instruments to learn, I don't know why people are saying the opposite. You have to coordinate both your hands to do different things while trying to build up stamina and finger strength, something you don't really have to worry about with a concert instrument or piano(piano being the easiest instrument to get started with). There are dozens and dozens of different techniques to learn(muting, rhythm patterns, pinch harmonics, natural harmonics etc.). Your easily going to spend your first couple of months fumbling with chords and learning how to pick correctly, but slowly it will all fall into place if you can keep up with it for about a year. I personally would ignore anyone who tries shoving theory in your face from the get go, that stuff will all fall into place eventually. This of course is all just my experience, I've been playing for.....god like 5 years now, I can't even remember when playing guitar didn't just seem like a natural extension of myself. | ||
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unit
United States2621 Posts
On November 04 2010 08:09 Skyze wrote: I played guitar for 6+ years but recently learning saxophone now, its more into what I want to do. But guitar and Piano are the two instruments that are easiest to learn, but hardest to master. You can play basic stuff in afew weeks, but to be really good, it takes like 5+ years of heavy training. Its rough =[ Piano imo is quite literally the easiest instrument to pick up however it is also the hardest instrument i have ever tried to become skilled with...Guitar and Bass are rather easy in comparison, My main instrument is the Alto Sax and that was harder to pick up and like guitar the ways to improve are subtle after a point so its not really 5+ years of training its more the ability to figure out what you need to do to improve for Guitar and Sax. Trumpet is another good instrument that i play and that goes into the scale as hardest to pick up and a challenge to improve but ive never been confused by how to improve when dealing with it (might be the fact that it is my 5th simultaneous instrument making it so that ive already figured out a lot of it but its been pretty straightforward) I say go for it and heres how to learn... 1.get a teacher (not necessary but helps) 2.practice multiple scale patterns daily and add more on as you go 3.practice these scales by just messing around and having fun with them...this step is most fun imo 4.practice multiple chords (mainly jazz chords...those can be a pain if your out of practice learning them) 5.pick your favorite songs and learn them 6.write music (#3 is helpful here) 7. HAVE FUN Enjoy playing GL HF GG ^.^ Im a bit biased here but Music is perhaps the greatest thing that has ever happened to humanity...im not talking about modern "lets copy some1 who copied some1 else" BS im talking about legitimate music, where its the composer or performer leading you on a journey with his/her music of almost any style...2nd greatest being SC:BW lol  | ||
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unit
United States2621 Posts
On November 04 2010 09:32 Coolzx wrote: I kind of disagree with it being the easiest to play, i have to give that to the keyboard.. and i don't mean your typing keyboard. Still, it is not that hard, just learn some chords and learn to play them in different ways and you can make some good sound. play classical music on piano parts xD sooo hard | ||
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Skyze
Canada2324 Posts
On November 04 2010 10:00 howerpower wrote: The majority of people who get a guitar never learn how to play it, they just give up after a week or so. I'm very self motivated so teaching myself was the best way to learn guitar, and with the internet you really don't need a teacher unless that's something you really want. It's really important to note that guitar is one of the more difficult instruments to learn, I don't know why people are saying the opposite. You have to coordinate both your hands to do different things while trying to build up stamina and finger strength, something you don't really have to worry about with a concert instrument or piano(piano being the easiest instrument to get started with). There are dozens and dozens of different techniques to learn(muting, rhythm patterns, pinch harmonics, natural harmonics etc.). Your easily going to spend your first couple of months fumbling with chords and learning how to pick correctly, but slowly it will all fall into place if you can keep up with it for about a year. I personally would ignore anyone who tries shoving theory in your face from the get go, that stuff will all fall into place eventually. This of course is all just my experience, I've been playing for.....god like 5 years now, I can't even remember when playing guitar didn't just seem like a natural extension of myself. Guitar is much easier than other instruments that require an embrochure (brass/woodwind), but of course its later on with all those techniques you mentioned, where guitar gets hard. Coordinating both hands and developing finger strength/etc is required with any instrument (maybe less so on piano, but still required) I say Guitar and piano are the easiest to start on, because within afew days you can be playing chords and stuff.. But to get to the masterful levels of either (lets say, Shred or jazz improvising guitar, or classical piano like Chopin) takes insane amounts of dedication/years of hard practicing. An instrument like the Saxophone (which ive been learning this past year) is hard to get it to feel "natural" and smooth (ie not sound like a total beginner) but once that happens, the rest is pretty easy to fall into place, especially being a melody instrument... Guitar and Piano are the two main "harmony" instruments, which is what makes it much harder to digest, understanding all the millions of chord inversions. As a professional musician/teacher myself, I believe Theory is very important, especially if you just want to learn chords and play afew songs, because with basic theory like understanding your harmonized scale, you understand how to write a simple chord progression in any key (or dissect any song and see how/why they made it sound that way), which is something I can teach a student in less than 2 weeks. Of course, the hard part is getting the important aspects of theory understood, because most teachers just say "Ok learn this stuff" and dont explain why its important. I'd say get a teacher, but make sure its a good one. If you dont feel you are learning anything of use within 2-3 weeks, maybe look for a new one.. I always make sure I teach my students towards what THEY want to do, not teaching them all the other random junk (and theres millions of things to learn in music) unless its necessary/beneficial to their progress. | ||
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Lumire
United States607 Posts
Once you can do those decently, u can use basic tabs to play some more complex songs random YouTube videos/guides have helped me out a lot personally and are great for starting out imo. but It will still take time and effort, dont expect to go in and be able to be super amazing at it in 2 weeks. Also some good intermediate level guitars are schecters (diamond series) and the LTD deluxe models (both are really great value). I would recommend staying away from anything fender or gibson, both of them are horrible value and the lower end of their guitars (read: anything below 2k) dont really perform anywhere near reasonable for their price point. Also any basic amp will do when u start out, wouldnt worry about that too much. oh, and good website for tabs: ultimate-guitar.com | ||
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McDonalds
Liechtenstein2244 Posts
It's funny that someone was saying that guitar is hard because you need to use two hands. Piano requires you to use your feet! It might take a while for you to build up a tolerance to hand cramps and such but that comes with the territory. Learning to play harmonica is exhausting too. | ||
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HeadhunteR
Argentina1258 Posts
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Chromyne
Canada561 Posts
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
On November 04 2010 11:26 McDonalds wrote: Mucking around with tabs instead of learning theory is the reason so many people look down on guitar players as people who don't know anything about music, to be honest. It's tempting to just go on the internet and screw around with your favourite songs but it doesn't really lead anywhere. You'll get to the point where you realize that you're learning and forgetting a song every week because you don't really understand the content of what you're learning. It's funny that someone was saying that guitar is hard because you need to use two hands. Piano requires you to use your feet! It might take a while for you to build up a tolerance to hand cramps and such but that comes with the territory. Learning to play harmonica is exhausting too. I use my feet constantly when im playing guitar "wah peddle" "pitch shifter" | ||
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Skyze
Canada2324 Posts
On November 04 2010 11:14 One wrote: Also some good intermediate level guitars are schecters (diamond series) and the LTD deluxe models (both are really great value). I would recommend staying away from anything schetcter or gibson, both of them are horrible value and the lower end of their guitars (read: anything below 2k) dont really perform anywhere near reasonable for their price point. Also any basic amp will do when u start out, wouldnt worry about that too much. oh, and good website for tabs: ultimate-guitar.com Umm.. LTD and Schecter are the same company (made in the same factory).. so how is one of them great value and one of them horrible value, if they are essentially the same guitar with a differnet name on it lol.. The custom made Schecters (ie $2000+) are some of the best guitars you can get for the money. I'll disagree with all of that. If you want a solid guitar for a great price, the best is finding a used Carvin. They are made in the USA, they are comparible to the $2000+ guitars easily, and you can find them used for around $500 on craigslist/etc. For brand new at a great price, theres a company called Rondo music, who makes very good value guitars in the $150-500 range.. Their guitar brands are Douglas (the lower end) and Agile (upper end).. and they are very solid. If you can afford $350 or so, an Agile AL is very very good quality, as good as the $1000 epiphone/gibsons (just not paying for the brand name) www.rondomusic.net | ||
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Lumire
United States607 Posts
On November 04 2010 11:59 Skyze wrote: Umm.. LTD and Schecter are the same company (made in the same factory).. so how is one of them great value and one of them horrible value, if they are essentially the same guitar with a differnet name on it lol.. The custom made Schecters (ie $2000+) are some of the best guitars you can get for the money. I'll disagree with all of that. If you want a solid guitar for a great price, the best is finding a used Carvin. They are made in the USA, they are comparible to the $2000+ guitars easily, and you can find them used for around $500 on craigslist/etc. For brand new at a great price, theres a company called Rondo music, who makes very good value guitars in the $150-500 range.. Their guitar brands are Douglas (the lower end) and Agile (upper end).. and they are very solid. If you can afford $350 or so, an Agile AL is very very good quality, as good as the $1000 epiphone/gibsons (just not paying for the brand name) www.rondomusic.net i accidently wrote schecter instead of fender >.<, my bad, will edit my post. and to the person a couple posts above me, yeah i think learning more music theory would have been very helpful for me, he might lose motivation if he starts getting into too much music theory early on though, especially if he is just playing for fun. | ||
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koreasilver
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