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nedamise
Profile Joined August 2010
169 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-30 14:14:14
October 30 2010 14:11 GMT
#141
On October 30 2010 22:45 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 22:30 nedamise wrote:
On October 30 2010 22:22 Grettin wrote:
On October 30 2010 22:17 nedamise wrote:
On October 30 2010 22:04 Grettin wrote:
^ idra has enough manners where he needs them. none cares if hes acting like a fucking child in a forum or internet


What typical internet warriors don't understand that is Internet is just another way for people to communicate. There isn't much difference between being an asshole online and being an asshole in person. You are just that same asshole, except you have the benefit of not being seen while you are acting like one. It's not a separate planet or a separate reality.



Seems like Idra is covering that up pretty well then.



No, he is not. If he was, he wouldn't be so disliked all over the place by so many people. He would be well loved and respected. Guess what? Actions have consequences.

He has great skills and is one of the few foreigners that can compete with Koreans. The only reason he is disliked is his behavior. Simple as that. So no, he isn't fooling anyone or covering up anything.


Really, because what ive seen in a past tournaments or podcasts, hes been well mannered?(still the same idra in forums though, but really doesn't mean anything Imo.)

Most of the people still dislikes him because of the behavior in Beta and broodwar times. But now he has showed pretty much the opposite. OR hes covering that up well, as i said earlier.

You said that there isn't much difference being an asshole online and being an asshole in person. Somehow this doesn't fit here right know. I know many people whos acting like a fucking douche in Internet etc, but they are not the same in person. To friends nor strangers. And i seriously doubt Idra is anyway near anyway.

But you are right with the reason why he is disliked and that is true.

E: and to your incoming fanboy card. I just like Idras playstyle, thats why i watch his games. I dont really care about else. Just sick of the constant 'idra has no manners' shit in every thread.


Didn't plan on calling you a fanboy. A fanboy is somebody who blindly defends his favorite, completely ignoring everything else. You don't seem to fit the description.

He has been well mannered in tournaments and podcasts but apparently that didn't spill over onto the internet. Look at the Korean comments and to what most of it applies. His Internet behavior. Not to mention that comment he made in a WeRRa disband topic about a subject that people really shouldn't treat as a joke. Those things are funny/cool when you are young or immature.

There isn't a difference in a sense that a lot of people think that Internet is a separate entity and somehow not connected to the real world. It's quite the opposite, if you were an asshole online you remain that same asshole offline, it's just that you are too afraid to behave that way because consequences can range from being kicked out of somewhere to getting your ass kicked to a bloody pulp if you piss of the wrong person.

Internet provides safety and anonymity for people who are too cowardly to show their assholish side in person. At least people who are assholes anywhere aren't hypocrites.

People also really, really shouldn't use the excuse "oh he loses games on the internet, he gets angry, it's normal for him to rage etc etc". He loses games on stage as well and to people he considers to be beneath him. Does he go into a tantrum yelling at them, throwing his keyboard around or showing any hints of his Internet persona? He quietly GG's with the same expression he has when winning.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
October 30 2010 14:25 GMT
#142
I agree on the Werra disband 'joke' and the excuse part. And i'm sorry, i didn't pay that much attention to the comments (about internet behavior etc).

But i think all comes to this, what seems to be very true:

He has been well mannered in tournaments and podcasts but apparently that didn't spill over onto the internet.


So lets hope his mannerism is moving towards what it should be. Maybe that changes Idra's image in the future.

peace~
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Adila
Profile Joined April 2010
United States874 Posts
October 30 2010 14:42 GMT
#143
Sounds pretty tame. Not nearly as interesting as the stuff that goes on between Korea/Japan/China events.
Goatlust
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia131 Posts
October 30 2010 14:54 GMT
#144
Bunch of dicksuckers talking shit on the internet, only thing that's different is these dicksuckers have slanted eyes. Don't see why anybody would really want to translate this horse-shit.

User was banned for this post.
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
October 30 2010 15:05 GMT
#145
On October 30 2010 23:54 Goatlust wrote:
Bunch of dicksuckers talking shit on the internet, only thing that's different is these dicksuckers have slanted eyes. Don't see why anybody would really want to translate this horse-shit.


yeah, instead the OP could have translated one of the GSL interviews with NaDa or Boxer instead!!!!
Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
October 30 2010 15:10 GMT
#146
Ah this stuff is hilarious, thanks for the translations. What goes around comes around.
MBC/Liquid/TSM always.
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
October 30 2010 15:17 GMT
#147
Wow. The gamers appear so good mannered in public and on stage, but behind the scenes they are som vile people. The hero in this is Greg Fields. Fighting Greg don't give up!
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
October 30 2010 16:51 GMT
#148
I'm guessing Idra's bnet BM was that he didn't type GG when he lost.
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
leveller
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1840 Posts
October 30 2010 17:04 GMT
#149
On October 30 2010 20:36 Rekrul wrote:
lololololol

i live for this stuff


Rekrul please... "Foreigners still suck; part 2"

make it happen.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-30 17:17:15
October 30 2010 17:08 GMT
#150
i hope idra wins the next gsl and then stands up and yells KIMCHI EZ GAME or some shit, just to offend everyone. then the whole crowd starts booing and idra starts dancing yelling "AMERICA WIN, AMERICA WIN"
DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
October 30 2010 17:22 GMT
#151
Woah thats quite the bit of crazy comments there. I dont think Idra deserves all this crazy bashing. Seems to me they are even more BM than him. I mean come on, Idra did improve his public image from what I saw from him. ugh :/
alexpnd
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1857 Posts
October 30 2010 17:22 GMT
#152
On October 31 2010 02:08 travis wrote:
i hope idra wins the next gsl and then stands up and yells KIMCHI EZ GAME or some shit, just to offend everyone. then the whole crowd starts booing and idra starts dancing yelling "AMERICA WIN, AMERICA WIN"


rofl.

I swear I was thinking the same thing. These people think they have justice. Just wait for idra's next ceremony lol.
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Metalwing
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Turkey1038 Posts
October 30 2010 17:33 GMT
#153
Lol, those haters never cross on idra, probably never will. IdrA is still better than all those stupid netizens combined (I rooted for Zenio on that one, because I like his playstyle and funky moves).
#1 CheckPrime fan // Terrans gonna Terran
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
October 30 2010 17:53 GMT
#154
Milkis you did a pretty good job in translating for someone who claims to be bad at trash talking lol.

My opinion is that all of this BM going back and forth is good for development of e-sports (SC2-wise). As many of you have mentioned here and in interview translation threads, we don't want any more of "I will try my best, thanks to my practice partners, I practiced really hard, thank you coach, I got lucky since I had better strategy" cliche. Instead we want drama, we want strong and unique characters, we want it to get personal.

That's where IdrA comes in. He is bringing hate and initiating a whole chain of love-and-hate drama around SC2 e-sports in Korea. Isn't it awesome? Instead of relying on the fanbase to create artificial rivalries, we can get them naturally from players being fueled by each other's BM.

Screw arguing about skills and talent and stuff, just sit back and lol @ the drama.
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dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
October 30 2010 19:07 GMT
#155
Lol, this is the sort of stuff that makes a competitive scene interesting.

Keep going, Idra, you are doing great!
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
October 30 2010 19:08 GMT
#156
[QUOTE]On October 30 2010 11:45 GTR wrote:
[QUOTE]On October 30 2010 11:38 zerious wrote:
"Idra was seriously worthless even since the SC1 days, he's some retard who claimed that Free couldn't fight with his units"

What is this referring to?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]On February 12 2009 20:49 IdrA wrote:
[QUOTE]On February 12 2009 20:47 benjammin wrote:
[QUOTE]On February 12 2009 20:46 IdrA wrote:
[QUOTE]On February 12 2009 20:45 benjammin wrote:
wait what? forgg showing better micro than free? my world is collapsing[/QUOTE]
not knowing when to not attack and getting lucky occasionally is not good micro
[/QUOTE]

he had pretty nice marine micro against those zealots was what i meant [/QUOTE]
nono
sorry i didnt word that well
i mean its a misconception that free ever has good micro. hes just dumb enough to always attack, and he gets lucky once in a while and it looks like brilliance, when it fact hes terrible.
[/QUOTE]


if free is terrible what the hell is he ?? :S
and lol at poll results xD
ace hwaiting!!
DND_Enkil
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden598 Posts
October 30 2010 19:38 GMT
#157
If you like throwing shit around dont get suprised if someone flings it back at you. Had he done that ceremony to TLO i would be upset but at Idra it is okay, and i really like Idra's play, if not his character.

And showing some emotion is good!
"If you write about a sewing needle there is always some one-eyed bastard that gets offended" - Fritiof The Pirate Nilsson
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
October 30 2010 20:08 GMT
#158
you guys think its funny or entertaining, however the insults in korean are obviously more serious to the koreans and they take it to heart, especially since they already think Grack is disrespectful. Being a complete childish racist is not funny, and no1 has the right to criticize people's play who are infinitely better than you. He should just grow up already, he's nothing amazing get over yourself.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
shieldbreak
Profile Joined February 2010
United States406 Posts
October 30 2010 20:31 GMT
#159
Reading this made me support Idra even more. Kick some Korean ass! :D
Many a sleepless nights were spent doing absolutely nothing.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
October 30 2010 22:21 GMT
#160
netizens get mad over everything

Obviously you can criticize play that's better than you, look in every LR/PR thread to ever be made. That's a terrible argument.

gl with GSL3 Idra
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