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Korean Netizen Response to Zenio's Ceremony - Page 9

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Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
October 30 2010 22:25 GMT
#161
On October 31 2010 02:08 travis wrote:
i hope idra wins the next gsl and then stands up and yells KIMCHI EZ GAME or some shit, just to offend everyone. then the whole crowd starts booing and idra starts dancing yelling "AMERICA WIN, AMERICA WIN"

I imagined that... and mixed it with FBH's pelvic thrusts.
MBC/Liquid/TSM always.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
October 30 2010 22:25 GMT
#162
IdrA knows how to entartain, thats for sure take GSL3 Grack!
Stork[gm]
SKtheAnathema
Profile Joined September 2010
United States885 Posts
October 30 2010 23:44 GMT
#163
On October 31 2010 02:22 alexpnd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 02:08 travis wrote:
i hope idra wins the next gsl and then stands up and yells KIMCHI EZ GAME or some shit, just to offend everyone. then the whole crowd starts booing and idra starts dancing yelling "AMERICA WIN, AMERICA WIN"


rofl.

I swear I was thinking the same thing. These people think they have justice. Just wait for idra's next ceremony lol.


can i get a link of idra doing any ceremony? or you mean ceremony as in -_- packing up my keyboard and mouse so i can go home and bm on my computer.
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
October 30 2010 23:50 GMT
#164
On October 31 2010 02:53 OpticalShot wrote:
Milkis you did a pretty good job in translating for someone who claims to be bad at trash talking lol.

My opinion is that all of this BM going back and forth is good for development of e-sports (SC2-wise). As many of you have mentioned here and in interview translation threads, we don't want any more of "I will try my best, thanks to my practice partners, I practiced really hard, thank you coach, I got lucky since I had better strategy" cliche. Instead we want drama, we want strong and unique characters, we want it to get personal.

That's where IdrA comes in. He is bringing hate and initiating a whole chain of love-and-hate drama around SC2 e-sports in Korea. Isn't it awesome? Instead of relying on the fanbase to create artificial rivalries, we can get them naturally from players being fueled by each other's BM.

Screw arguing about skills and talent and stuff, just sit back and lol @ the drama.


In Korea though, that is expected. Different cultures have different opinions of what they expect. In Korea they would expect the bolded text, in America, there is a greater tendency to love the trash-talkers, controversy-stirrers (a la Chad Johnson, T.O, etc.)
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
October 30 2010 23:57 GMT
#165
Pretty funny comments. Thanks for translating.
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
October 31 2010 00:16 GMT
#166
On October 30 2010 12:40 kaleidoscope wrote:
i guess idra deserved it though.. non-asians are usually more accepting to trolls and BM, but i doubt countries like S.Korea will ever even tolerate that..

with a reputation like this, it's not gonna be good for him.. even if one day he did get a GSL champion (if), the koreans will not even look up to him at all


lol, you are so wrong. Korean netizens are trolls themselves. If you follow Kpop then you know what I mean. Korean netizens often bitch and complain about the smallest shit even if they don't agree since they follow the majority of the other trolls.

I an IdrA fan and I personally think it's funny how Zenio acted at the end of the game. IdrA deserved it obviously, but this will just drive IdrA to practice more, so he can take the title at MLG Dallas.

If you guys honestly think that IdrA acts like a total dick IRL then you're wrong. Some people act differently online to psyche out their opponents. It is nerd rage most of the time, but it's more of a gamer persona than their actual attitude.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
October 31 2010 00:21 GMT
#167
While i like players that do ceremonies and trolling, i'm not sure Greg is worthy of all the koreans' spite. He's been fairly respectable to other koreans (comparatively, maybe exempting a few posts), and they flame him rather needlessly.
However, they are korean netizens, and with their reputation for trolling, i'm not sure i'm very surprised.
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kaleidoscope
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore2887 Posts
October 31 2010 01:42 GMT
#168
On October 31 2010 09:16 zoLo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 12:40 kaleidoscope wrote:
i guess idra deserved it though.. non-asians are usually more accepting to trolls and BM, but i doubt countries like S.Korea will ever even tolerate that..

with a reputation like this, it's not gonna be good for him.. even if one day he did get a GSL champion (if), the koreans will not even look up to him at all


lol, you are so wrong. Korean netizens are trolls themselves. If you follow Kpop then you know what I mean. Korean netizens often bitch and complain about the smallest shit even if they don't agree since they follow the majority of the other trolls.

I an IdrA fan and I personally think it's funny how Zenio acted at the end of the game. IdrA deserved it obviously, but this will just drive IdrA to practice more, so he can take the title at MLG Dallas.

If you guys honestly think that IdrA acts like a total dick IRL then you're wrong. Some people act differently online to psyche out their opponents. It is nerd rage most of the time, but it's more of a gamer persona than their actual attitude.


i've seen Idra IRL before though.. he's fine as a person, but well, having made nasty comments still wont render u any form of respect though..
대지따라 돌린게 시간이다.. 흘러가고 돌아오지도 않고..
Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-31 03:32:26
October 31 2010 03:23 GMT
#169
On October 31 2010 02:08 travis wrote:
i hope idra wins the next gsl and then stands up and yells KIMCHI EZ GAME or some shit, just to offend everyone. then the whole crowd starts booing and idra starts dancing yelling "AMERICA WIN, AMERICA WIN"


That was the greatest image in my head ever. Thank you.

EDIT: Although the people saying they hope Idra wins GSL, not gonna happen as long as he has to play any ZvZ. And to be honest, at GSL he has yet to beat anyone noteworthy, and in season 1 lost to a no-namer. His road to Ro16 in both seasons has been astonishingly easy.
iloveoil
Profile Joined June 2008
Norway171 Posts
October 31 2010 04:04 GMT
#170
what does kimchi mean?
leveller
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1840 Posts
October 31 2010 04:13 GMT
#171
On October 31 2010 13:04 iloveoil wrote:
what does kimchi mean?


Its a type of korean dish, I had to read about it on wikipedia too I was confused by that insult.
vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
October 31 2010 15:05 GMT
#172
Kimchi is spicy cabbage.

Anyway this is really bad for Idra. He is becoming increasing isolated from the korean community and his fellow progamers.

oGs as a team has done very well in the GSL. This is because they have the support of the team where high-level players help each other out to win matches. Idra meanwhile has only Artosis or other weaker US players. No matter how much talent Idra has, he still needs a team and maybe coaches to help develop his skill.

I really wish Idra had joined oGs or TL instead of team EG.
Marines > everything
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
October 31 2010 16:05 GMT
#173
On November 01 2010 00:05 vnlegend wrote:
Kimchi is spicy cabbage.

Anyway this is really bad for Idra. He is becoming increasing isolated from the korean community and his fellow progamers.

oGs as a team has done very well in the GSL. This is because they have the support of the team where high-level players help each other out to win matches. Idra meanwhile has only Artosis or other weaker US players. No matter how much talent Idra has, he still needs a team and maybe coaches to help develop his skill.

I really wish Idra had joined oGs or TL instead of team EG.


He BM'd some of the oGs players so I doubt either team would have him
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
leveller
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1840 Posts
October 31 2010 17:18 GMT
#174
On November 01 2010 01:05 TheAntZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 00:05 vnlegend wrote:
Kimchi is spicy cabbage.

Anyway this is really bad for Idra. He is becoming increasing isolated from the korean community and his fellow progamers.

oGs as a team has done very well in the GSL. This is because they have the support of the team where high-level players help each other out to win matches. Idra meanwhile has only Artosis or other weaker US players. No matter how much talent Idra has, he still needs a team and maybe coaches to help develop his skill.

I really wish Idra had joined oGs or TL instead of team EG.


He BM'd some of the oGs players so I doubt either team would have him


He could see if the new werra clan would have him? ^_^
ToFu.
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
331 Posts
October 31 2010 17:19 GMT
#175
imo "BM" is only ok if it's funny!

very fine line tho and highly subjective.

as an asian american, i feel like westerners make many more statements that are only intended to provoke.
Constipation Zerg Fighting!
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
October 31 2010 17:36 GMT
#176
On November 01 2010 02:18 leveller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 01:05 TheAntZ wrote:
On November 01 2010 00:05 vnlegend wrote:
Kimchi is spicy cabbage.

Anyway this is really bad for Idra. He is becoming increasing isolated from the korean community and his fellow progamers.

oGs as a team has done very well in the GSL. This is because they have the support of the team where high-level players help each other out to win matches. Idra meanwhile has only Artosis or other weaker US players. No matter how much talent Idra has, he still needs a team and maybe coaches to help develop his skill.

I really wish Idra had joined oGs or TL instead of team EG.


He BM'd some of the oGs players so I doubt either team would have him


He could see if the new werra clan would have him? ^_^


Idra really sucks against cheese and all-ins, so him joining werra would be pretty bad. He'd just get raped all the time
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
October 31 2010 17:51 GMT
#177
On November 01 2010 02:36 TheAntZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 02:18 leveller wrote:
On November 01 2010 01:05 TheAntZ wrote:
On November 01 2010 00:05 vnlegend wrote:
Kimchi is spicy cabbage.

Anyway this is really bad for Idra. He is becoming increasing isolated from the korean community and his fellow progamers.

oGs as a team has done very well in the GSL. This is because they have the support of the team where high-level players help each other out to win matches. Idra meanwhile has only Artosis or other weaker US players. No matter how much talent Idra has, he still needs a team and maybe coaches to help develop his skill.

I really wish Idra had joined oGs or TL instead of team EG.


He BM'd some of the oGs players so I doubt either team would have him


He could see if the new werra clan would have him? ^_^


Idra really sucks against cheese and all-ins, so him joining werra would be pretty bad. He'd just get raped all the time


here we have one person who really doesn't watch Idras matches at all.

idra is pretty solid with cheeses and all ins nowadays fyi.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
October 31 2010 17:52 GMT
#178
On November 01 2010 02:51 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 02:36 TheAntZ wrote:
On November 01 2010 02:18 leveller wrote:
On November 01 2010 01:05 TheAntZ wrote:
On November 01 2010 00:05 vnlegend wrote:
Kimchi is spicy cabbage.

Anyway this is really bad for Idra. He is becoming increasing isolated from the korean community and his fellow progamers.

oGs as a team has done very well in the GSL. This is because they have the support of the team where high-level players help each other out to win matches. Idra meanwhile has only Artosis or other weaker US players. No matter how much talent Idra has, he still needs a team and maybe coaches to help develop his skill.

I really wish Idra had joined oGs or TL instead of team EG.


He BM'd some of the oGs players so I doubt either team would have him


He could see if the new werra clan would have him? ^_^


Idra really sucks against cheese and all-ins, so him joining werra would be pretty bad. He'd just get raped all the time


here we have one person who really doesn't watch Idras matches at all.

idra is pretty solid with cheeses and all ins nowadays fyi.


oh right sorry i forgot he got knocked out of both GSL's with standard macro play
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
October 31 2010 17:55 GMT
#179
hahaha, those games sure were such a all-ins and cheeses. get a grip.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
October 31 2010 18:04 GMT
#180
On November 01 2010 02:55 Grettin wrote:
hahaha, those games sure were such a all-ins and cheeses. get a grip.


zenio himself called em allins.
whatshisface that protoss dude also said one of his builds was an allin, and the other depended on not being scouted
yeeaah sure sounds like straight up macro skillbased games to me bro
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
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