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Korean Netizen Response to Zenio's Ceremony - Page 3

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nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
October 30 2010 02:58 GMT
#41
i love idra even moar !!!

imagine if idra beat boxer in a final, AND threw a BM ceremony ... shitstorm of the century it would be

Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
zerglingsfolife
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1694 Posts
October 30 2010 02:59 GMT
#42
On October 30 2010 11:54 PanzerDragoon wrote:
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On October 30 2010 11:39 zerglingsfolife wrote:
On October 30 2010 11:36 zerious wrote:
On October 30 2010 11:32 zerglingsfolife wrote:
haha I love it. I can't wait til he eliminates some of their Korean heroes.


Korean Netizens are definitely mourning over the loss of ChickenCombo.


I can't wait usually indicates that it will be happening in the future. No need to be a smartass

hint: he's not going to beat anyone good


Post saved.
Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crown and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness.
SoJu.WeRRa
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (South)820 Posts
October 30 2010 02:59 GMT
#43
Honnestly comments are so rude... it's too much.
나를 찢어갈겨이씨발놈아왜나를미치게만들어니가뭘아는데?
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50604 Posts
October 30 2010 03:00 GMT
#44
Honestly I would say Greg had it coming.

You BM and people will BM you.

but Zenio went a little too far.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
ShivaN
Profile Joined January 2007
United States933 Posts
October 30 2010 03:00 GMT
#45
omg hahaha that's so awesome. Even in Korea Grack's renowned for his shit manners. Totally deserving imho, kid needs to grow up and learn some respect.
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
October 30 2010 03:02 GMT
#46
reposting the fanart i found on playxp. credit to hjojoko and 지나가던카미씨 , respectively.
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Zyphen
Profile Joined September 2010
United States258 Posts
October 30 2010 03:05 GMT
#47
On October 30 2010 11:56 Jibba wrote:
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On October 30 2010 11:50 Zyphen wrote:
On October 30 2010 11:47 Jibba wrote:
On October 30 2010 11:43 Zyphen wrote:
On October 30 2010 11:34 Jibba wrote:
If the netizens wrote like that in English, they'd be on GosuGamers.


And if they rode IdrA's nutsack, they'd be on TeamLiquid. This place is not much cleaner and it's not like the mods are consistent about bm. If you use IdrA as the standard, a lot of stuff should be allowed. It's hypocritical and a lot of IdrA fans probably use his behavior to justify their own.

You've been an anti-fan since you got here. We don't let people disparage top caliber players no matter who they are.


Oh, is that against the rules? And tell me something slanderous I've said that wasn't true and echoed by even some of the other mods? You're the one who bmed me and several others because of your hurt fanboyish feelings. I've made no secret of my distaste for IdrA. Was that such a revelation? In fact, I didn't like him in BW either.
1. I said the thread was full of idiots. Looking back I stand by the statement 100%
2. You haven't been punished for anything you said in that thread, so why are you complaining about it? You and I had a reasonable discussion about the number of matchups needed to be considered top level currently in SC2, but no one said shit like "Zenio is trash" or "Show those gooks how to play!"

You're being hyper aggressive for no reason.


Look. I'm willing to step back on this. I don't really get why we're at where we are but I'm not just going to sit back and take it from you. If you perceive me as being aggressive, it's because I took offense and said something about it. And this didn't help:

"I'm calling you idiots because you people don't understand SC2, This is blind anti-fanboyism that should be reserved for a site like Gosugamers, not TL. IdrA is one of the best players in the world, period" - Jibba

This is a direct reply to me. If you're standing by calling me an idiot, then I don't see how you're so much better than GosuGamers or any of the other boards I go to.

I haven't been punished yet, true. But then I don't think I've done anything wrong? Should I expect to be?

If I'm pushing some of your buttons on IdrA, I'm not sorry for that, but I'm not going to say anything personally offensive to you or even come close to it. How is throwing out the word "gook" going to help our discussion in any way no matter the connotation. Are you trying to get a rise out of me? Because I'm not going to respond to that and rise to the bait. You're going to have to live with that one.
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
October 30 2010 03:06 GMT
#48
he hasn't bmed in an actual game for the longest amount of time.

if you want everyone to act nice and modest like loner is you won't have any casual viewers. imagine fucking wwe except all the wrestlers say shit like "my opponent outperformed me and i'm lucky that i have won the fight).

and if you read his interviews he's actually a really passionate and cool guy

but saying if he deserved or didn't deserve netizen comments/the ceremony idk it's up you
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
October 30 2010 03:09 GMT
#49
Grack is so good. I can't believe Boxer's genius. It's boundless.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
Legat0
Profile Joined October 2010
United States318 Posts
October 30 2010 03:11 GMT
#50
On October 30 2010 11:35 ReketSomething wrote:
This is actually pretty awesome. Im sure he has korean fans though. This is stirring up events it esports...we need events rather than just nerds in a booth


I agree, we need more people who bring personality to the game.
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
October 30 2010 03:13 GMT
#51
On October 30 2010 12:11 Legat0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 11:35 ReketSomething wrote:
This is actually pretty awesome. Im sure he has korean fans though. This is stirring up events it esports...we need events rather than just nerds in a booth


I agree, we need more people who bring personality to the game.


BM does not equate to personality
toadstool
Profile Joined May 2006
Australia421 Posts
October 30 2010 03:15 GMT
#52
I like Idra, people who are saying that he's BM should get a life. Every sport has a heel, and personality is actually a good thing especially compared to most the the 'names' with no personalities.

I hate watching no personality drone 1 vs no personality drone 2.

fk the haters idra, keep going!
NEWB?!
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-30 03:19:10
October 30 2010 03:16 GMT
#53
On October 30 2010 12:05 Zyphen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 11:56 Jibba wrote:
On October 30 2010 11:50 Zyphen wrote:
On October 30 2010 11:47 Jibba wrote:
On October 30 2010 11:43 Zyphen wrote:
On October 30 2010 11:34 Jibba wrote:
If the netizens wrote like that in English, they'd be on GosuGamers.


And if they rode IdrA's nutsack, they'd be on TeamLiquid. This place is not much cleaner and it's not like the mods are consistent about bm. If you use IdrA as the standard, a lot of stuff should be allowed. It's hypocritical and a lot of IdrA fans probably use his behavior to justify their own.

You've been an anti-fan since you got here. We don't let people disparage top caliber players no matter who they are.


Oh, is that against the rules? And tell me something slanderous I've said that wasn't true and echoed by even some of the other mods? You're the one who bmed me and several others because of your hurt fanboyish feelings. I've made no secret of my distaste for IdrA. Was that such a revelation? In fact, I didn't like him in BW either.
1. I said the thread was full of idiots. Looking back I stand by the statement 100%
2. You haven't been punished for anything you said in that thread, so why are you complaining about it? You and I had a reasonable discussion about the number of matchups needed to be considered top level currently in SC2, but no one said shit like "Zenio is trash" or "Show those gooks how to play!"

You're being hyper aggressive for no reason.


Look. I'm willing to step back on this. I don't really get why we're at where we are but I'm not just going to sit back and take it from you. If you perceive me as being aggressive, it's because I took offense and said something about it. And this didn't help:

"I'm calling you idiots because you people don't understand SC2, This is blind anti-fanboyism that should be reserved for a site like Gosugamers, not TL. IdrA is one of the best players in the world, period" - Jibba

This is a direct reply to me. If you're standing by calling me an idiot, then I don't see how you're so much better than GosuGamers or any of the other boards I go to
The accusation from you and the idiots in that thread is that IdrA is not a top level player. I pointed out that he lost a ZvZ and that his other matchups are still top tier, and you went off about that. I still stand by that, and had nothing negative to say about Zenio's ceremony nor did I try to disparage him in any way.. He's another top tier player and a better ZvZer through and through. I never even said IdrA didn't deserve it.

I haven't been punished yet, true. But then I don't think I've done anything wrong? Should I expect to be?

If I'm pushing some of your buttons on IdrA, I'm not sorry for that, but I'm not going to say anything personally offensive to you or even come close to it. How is throwing out the word "gook" going to help our discussion in any way no matter the connotation. Are you trying to get a rise out of me? Because I'm not going to respond to that and rise to the bait. You're going to have to live with that one.
Again, you're being incredibly defensive over very little. I said "gook" because it's analogous to the things the netizens say about IdrA.

If you want to keep going on it, PM me.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
zerglingsfolife
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1694 Posts
October 30 2010 03:19 GMT
#54
On October 30 2010 12:13 zerious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 12:11 Legat0 wrote:
On October 30 2010 11:35 ReketSomething wrote:
This is actually pretty awesome. Im sure he has korean fans though. This is stirring up events it esports...we need events rather than just nerds in a booth


I agree, we need more people who bring personality to the game.


BM does not equate to personality


Do you want more of this?

"My teammates helped me practice for this match, I would like to thank them."
"I'm going to give the winnings to my parents and buy my teammates dinner."
"I will continue to practice as hard as I can for my fans."

I approve of both IdrA and Zenio. It brings some excitement to the sport. If they ever play again, there is going to be much more tension and excitement.
Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crown and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness.
TadH
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1846 Posts
October 30 2010 03:19 GMT
#55
On another note, is there a video of this ceremony, I cannot seem to find it.
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
October 30 2010 03:21 GMT
#56
Clearly idra is really BM. If you guys think this is some sort of Korean pride thing you are wrong. Read what they are saying, "this guy bm me on ladder, etc etc"

Idra needs to clean up his shit talk, he clearly has no respect for people who are his level or better than him. (despite what GM comments "he says", the truth is seen through him)
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
October 30 2010 03:23 GMT
#57
Reading the Korean trash-talk about Idra is funny because in a weird way, it's still sort of well mannered. I can't quite put my finger on it, and maybe it's due to the translation, but at the least, I would conclude that Koreans have what I consider to be a very laughable way of trash talking. It's kind of what I would expect a twelve or thirteen year old to say, where they mix in curse words with tame insults to create something bizarre.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
October 30 2010 03:23 GMT
#58
loool
POGGERS
ThE.SparkZ
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States381 Posts
October 30 2010 03:23 GMT
#59
On October 30 2010 12:19 TadH wrote:
On another note, is there a video of this ceremony, I cannot seem to find it.


On the front page in the spotlighted section, theres a spoilered picture in the interview between the winner of Idra and Zenio.

On another note I really don't think this is fair for all koreans to unanimously hate grack. Does he really deserve that? I mean.. surely he can't be the only bm person in korea. Wasn't FBH known for bm and rude ceremonies? Yet people seemed to ride his nutsack until he started sucking.. I don't understand all the hate.
A battle between gods is just so damn beautiful
SKtheAnathema
Profile Joined September 2010
United States885 Posts
October 30 2010 03:26 GMT
#60
On October 30 2010 12:19 zerglingsfolife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 12:13 zerious wrote:
On October 30 2010 12:11 Legat0 wrote:
On October 30 2010 11:35 ReketSomething wrote:
This is actually pretty awesome. Im sure he has korean fans though. This is stirring up events it esports...we need events rather than just nerds in a booth


I agree, we need more people who bring personality to the game.


BM does not equate to personality


Do you want more of this?

"My teammates helped me practice for this match, I would like to thank them."
"I'm going to give the winnings to my parents and buy my teammates dinner."
"I will continue to practice as hard as I can for my fans."

I approve of both IdrA and Zenio. It brings some excitement to the sport. If they ever play again, there is going to be much more tension and excitement.


but he isn't doing anything cool when it counts. if idra did or said some awesome shit on tv, you'd have a point. but all he does is whine on bnet and apparently throw around racial slurs when he loses.

throw a keyboard or flip someone off, do something cool IRL plz. even when he wins, he's just like -_-. yeah, a real badass.
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