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KeKeZergRush
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States116 Posts
October 26 2010 18:30 GMT
#1
I was playing a game recently, and ran into mass carriers in a zvp. I tried to mass mutas, but when I got to his base, he had it so well timed, that when i was about to kill them, he had a voidray coming out. Any tips on timings of tosses big air units? I mean it's like toss can just mass carriers and win every game. Nothing zerg has can kill them.

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KeKeZergRush
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States116 Posts
October 26 2010 18:32 GMT
#2
I did try neural parasite game 2, but I wasn't able to kill all the carriers still. Game 3 I tried 10 neural parasites, but he just took the carriers away from the motherships, and killed my main.
sixghost
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2096 Posts
October 26 2010 18:35 GMT
#3
A couple infestors + corrupters or hydras?
mG.sixghost @ iCCup || One ling, two ling, three ling, four... Camp four gas, then ultra-whore . -Saracen
BlasiuS
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States2405 Posts
October 26 2010 18:36 GMT
#4
On October 27 2010 03:30 KeKeZergRush wrote:
Nothing zerg has can kill them.


what? zerg has a unit specifically made for killing them. It's called the corruptor. It even gets bonus damage vs massive units. The carrier is, you guessed it, a massive unit.

you need to look in the in-game unit counters more, and also make sure you play all of the single-player challenges to get a basic grasp of unit counters.
next week on Everybody Loves HypnoToad:
KeKeZergRush
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States116 Posts
October 26 2010 18:45 GMT
#5
I try to go corruptors some games, but then I get 4 gated.
Ronald_McD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada807 Posts
October 26 2010 18:49 GMT
#6
On October 27 2010 03:45 KeKeZergRush wrote:
I try to go corruptors some games, but then I get 4 gated.


4gate is an opening that involves no carriers.
If you're against a 4gate, don't build corruptors.
If you see carriers coming, build corruptors.

If you're saying he's switching to gateway units after you bust out your corruptors, just actively scout and try not to overproduce corruptors.
FUCKING GAY LAGS
KeKeZergRush
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States116 Posts
October 26 2010 18:52 GMT
#7
Yeah, I guess it's safe to say toss is op.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
October 26 2010 18:57 GMT
#8
On October 27 2010 03:52 KeKeZergRush wrote:
Yeah, I guess it's safe to say toss is op.

Great troll. Some of the best I've seen around here. Good job.
Also, next time you complain about anything, post a replay so that we can judge. A link to profile would help too.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 26 2010 18:59 GMT
#9
in that case, switch to toss and just mass carrier and win all your games
KeKeZergRush
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States116 Posts
October 26 2010 19:00 GMT
#10
Thanks chairman
Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
October 26 2010 19:01 GMT
#11
On October 27 2010 03:59 Chairman Ray wrote:
in that case, switch to toss and just mass carrier and win all your games


I love this post. This is so true..
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Ronald_McD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada807 Posts
October 26 2010 19:02 GMT
#12
Don't worry, next patch roaches will be able to fly and attack air. Dustin Browder told me himself.
FUCKING GAY LAGS
selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
October 26 2010 19:37 GMT
#13
Yeah, I'm sure next patch they'll nerf carriers. Those damn things are so overpowered!
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
October 26 2010 19:44 GMT
#14
It's much easier to switch tech as Z than as P; seeing that most ZvP builds involve mutas anyway, it shouldn't be a problem to just tech switch to some corrupters if you see carriers coming...
:)
SoL[9]
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Portugal1370 Posts
October 26 2010 20:47 GMT
#15
So i just need carriers to win a pvz?
Nice blog 5/5
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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
October 26 2010 21:02 GMT
#16
On October 27 2010 03:45 KeKeZergRush wrote:
I try to go corruptors some games, but then I get 4 gated.

lol
Seide
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States831 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-26 21:08:10
October 26 2010 21:05 GMT
#17
With your reaction to "when i build corruptors i lose to 4 gate", it seems that this might be a scouting issue. Or a troll blog -_-...

You should be able to tell very easily between a incoming 4gate and a passive tech opening to carriers.

Also do you scout after that first initial drone? I usually like to send a ling to my opponents base to atleast check his unit composition and if he has taken its natural about every 3 mins. You sacrifice a unit, but I find the information I get is well worth it.

Also: massing mutas, generally not a good idea. You should be using more as a means to harass and get a 3rd base up safely. Then transition to something else once the 3rd is up and running.
One fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
October 26 2010 21:27 GMT
#18
at least this is in blogs. Try replays for people to help you
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Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
October 26 2010 22:00 GMT
#19
Aren't you also the person who tries and trolls various Zerg streams?
Life is Good.
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
October 26 2010 22:02 GMT
#20
The only difference between this and the strat forum is that people in the strat forum are actually serious when they say stuff like this. Once again blogs maintain a higher standard, gj guys
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
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