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NukeTheBunnys
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1004 Posts
October 19 2010 20:47 GMT
#21
On October 20 2010 05:36 Logo wrote:
What was your Diamond League like? Were you in a league of hell or something so that 1500 was the lower 1/2 of the ladder? That combined with cumulated losses over time may have knocked you down.


divisions have no effect on you MMR, and there is only one diamond league per server. His MMR and delta dropped to the point where the system was fairly confident he should be plat, and so now he is in plat. Now that he is winning a lot his MMR is going up slowly, and his delta is increasing quickly so theoretically you should start getting better opponents soon. Once you get your MMR up and start losing games to other 1500~ diamond players the delta should drop and you will get promoted.
When you play the game of drones you win or you die.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-19 21:05:47
October 19 2010 20:59 GMT
#22
On October 20 2010 05:40 Chill wrote:
So you lost your MMR and got demoted. What's the issue?

issue was having a 60% win rate at the 1500 level and then getting dropped to plat after a big winning run.

EDIT: it's not that i have an issue with it, more than i think it's the dumbest thing to have happen. its nonsensical, i may have been losing to worse protoss players (my worst matchup and the only matchup i lose consistantly, i do extremely well vs T and Z) though but still it doesn't seem to make sense.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25996 Posts
October 19 2010 21:07 GMT
#23
You can acknowledge that you can have a winning record and lose MMR, right?

Just like in iccup you can have a winning record while losing points, right?

It just seems irrational to assume the system has an error without knowing for sure.
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
October 19 2010 21:23 GMT
#24
On October 20 2010 06:07 Chill wrote:
You can acknowledge that you can have a winning record and lose MMR, right?

Just like in iccup you can have a winning record while losing points, right?

It just seems irrational to assume the system has an error without knowing for sure.

i didn't assume the system has an error. i just am frustrated at the result. some mod turned the name into "MMR error" not me.
PokePill
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1048 Posts
October 19 2010 21:53 GMT
#25
I'm confused you say you win 60% of your games at 1500 level, yet your record is 220 - 214. It looks to me you're right where you should be, hovering between low diamond and top plat.

I don't watch your stream so am I missing something?
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-19 22:01:55
October 19 2010 21:59 GMT
#26
On October 20 2010 06:53 PokePill wrote:
I'm confused you say you win 60% of your games at 1500 level, yet your record is 220 - 214. It looks to me you're right where you should be, hovering between low diamond and top plat.

I don't watch your stream so am I missing something?

ah i lost alot of games in the past. i keep a spreadsheet of wins/losses weekly. and the week i was there i was at 60% win rate (excluding the 100% win rate that sunday) i've never had a week or day below 50% except within a month of release. where i lost around 120 games and won about 50. due to my practice methods.

EDIT: pretty much, i won 60% at 1500 but all 434 games were not at 1500 level, only about 10-20 were. and i say 1500 level where that is where I was, i tended to play opponents from just below me at 1350ish to above me at 1700.
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
October 19 2010 22:12 GMT
#27
I got to diamond at around 25 games, never loss to plat and gold (started in Gold, then after 10 games got promoted to plat then an additional 15 games got me to diamond.)

the thing is I'm being matched up against diamond 1100 to 1300 players. Man, I think next opponent would be around 1500 pts so I'm crossing my fingers here. (I'm just a 500 diamond rank player here)

I don't know why you say the system is broken but I know for a fact you can exploit the MMR a little bit.
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
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