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ven
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany332 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-15 21:34:42
October 15 2010 21:34 GMT
#41
On October 16 2010 06:15 Chill wrote:
I know I've gotten old, because I no longer want full control of my computer. I want something I plug in and it guesses all my settings as best it can. I want 4 or 5 options, outside of which, it can control everything else.

I'm okay with this

Yeah, sane default settings are a problem with a lot of free software. Some of it has great potential but is just too overwhelming due to almost unusable default settings and a ridiculous amount of configuration options.
Most developers are terrible designers and because noone is in charge you get a user interface mess ontop of that. Not very helpful for someone who just wants to get going.
You can reach the rainbow. I'll be there to help.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5281 Posts
October 15 2010 22:17 GMT
#42
Some people pointed out the terminal as a plus side of linux.. :S

Well, before we used windows, we typed shit in DOS. I'm not going back to that, thanks. There's nothing that the terminal offers that can't be done in a normal, intuitive way.
wootasaurus
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States39 Posts
October 15 2010 22:33 GMT
#43
On October 16 2010 07:17 niteReloaded wrote:
Some people pointed out the terminal as a plus side of linux.. :S

Well, before we used windows, we typed shit in DOS. I'm not going back to that, thanks. There's nothing that the terminal offers that can't be done in a normal, intuitive way.


some would disagree. i was talking to the president of the linux-users club at my university and he(as well as most the club) prefer a terminal to gui, even for writing papers and stuff. he wasn't even a developer or anything, he just picked up linux one day for fun and fell in love with it.

it's really just personal opinion, unless you're a sysadmin or something like that who needs to use a terminal to efficiently do your job.
TossFloss *
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada606 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-15 22:44:00
October 15 2010 22:42 GMT
#44
On October 16 2010 07:17 niteReloaded wrote:
Some people pointed out the terminal as a plus side of linux.. :S

Well, before we used windows, we typed shit in DOS. I'm not going back to that, thanks. There's nothing that the terminal offers that can't be done in a normal, intuitive way.


You cannot do input/output redirection or pipes with a GUI. Furthermore, most tasks can be completed faster with the terminal than with the GUI. For example, if I need to kill a process in Windows I need to hit CTRL+ALT+DEL, open the task manager, find the process and click "End Process". With Linux I type in: ps aux | grep <NAME OF PROCESS>; kill <PROCESS ID>

Say I have 100 photo images in a directory which I need to resize. I can type in apt-cache search batch image resize; which will print out a list of programs for me. Then type in apt-get install <APPLICATION NAME>. In this example I type into the terminal mogrify -r <NEW RESOLUTION> *. With Windows, I'd have to spend a lot more time online sifting through free apps to do this for me.

But you know the best part of my Linux installation? Every-time my laptop boots up, it boots up the same way, at the same speed and everything works like it did last week. Linux delivers consistency Windows users could only dream of.
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Lexpar
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
1813 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-16 00:15:08
October 16 2010 00:13 GMT
#45
On October 16 2010 07:17 niteReloaded wrote:
Some people pointed out the terminal as a plus side of linux.. :S

Well, before we used windows, we typed shit in DOS. I'm not going back to that, thanks. There's nothing that the terminal offers that can't be done in a normal, intuitive way.


Dude what's your angle? Some people like to have a lot of control over their computers, some don't (you). Ignorance is indeed bliss for a lot of folks, and personally I'm all right with that, but do you think your half baked uninformed argument is gonna change those other guys minds? No. It isn't.
miseiler
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1389 Posts
October 16 2010 01:01 GMT
#46
On October 16 2010 07:17 niteReloaded wrote:
Some people pointed out the terminal as a plus side of linux.. :S

Well, before we used windows, we typed shit in DOS. I'm not going back to that, thanks. There's nothing that the terminal offers that can't be done in a normal, intuitive way.


DOS never had the raw power that a nice unix shell has. Things like inbuilt loops, conditional statements, and a nice set of command line utilities (gnu).

Intuitive? Try renaming all the files in a directory. Or, say, concatenating a bunch of text files. Not everything is as easy as click and drag.
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niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5281 Posts
October 16 2010 11:29 GMT
#47
On October 16 2010 09:13 Lexpar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2010 07:17 niteReloaded wrote:
Some people pointed out the terminal as a plus side of linux.. :S

Well, before we used windows, we typed shit in DOS. I'm not going back to that, thanks. There's nothing that the terminal offers that can't be done in a normal, intuitive way.


Dude what's your angle? Some people like to have a lot of control over their computers, some don't (you). Ignorance is indeed bliss for a lot of folks, and personally I'm all right with that, but do you think your half baked uninformed argument is gonna change those other guys minds? No. It isn't.

In what way do I not have control over my computer that actually makes a difference?

Meaning, I accept the fact that I don't control everything(neither do you), but let's just say that you do control more.. what's so important to care so much?


BTW to everyone else reacting to my terminal statement: I'm not saying everything that the terminal can do HAS BEEN DONE in a more intuitive way. I said "It could be done."
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
October 16 2010 11:50 GMT
#48
Well, if you really hated the terminal, you could write your own program that does exactly the same thing. Unlike Windows where so much System functionalities and their inner workings are hidden from you, in Linux, its pretty much a man page away (Well, in theory anyway).

The issue of control is debatable but lets just settle on that Linux by its principles do offer you more control but you might want to have these controls. Its not for everyone and people need to realise this, Linux users included.

I do hope though that in time, a Linux distribution will mature to a point where it will do enough to at least equal that of Windows but I don't see it happen even with Ubuntu.
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ven
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany332 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-16 13:04:42
October 16 2010 12:21 GMT
#49
On October 16 2010 20:29 niteReloaded wrote:
BTW to everyone else reacting to my terminal statement: I'm not saying everything that the terminal can do HAS BEEN DONE in a more intuitive way. I said "It could be done."

No, it couldn't. Other people already mentioned some of the examples but your reaction now shows just how ignorant you really are.
Just because something has a button, doesn't mean it's more useful or more intuitive.

Edit: Being forced to use the terminal for something mundane which could've been avoided is obviously bad. But it's a lot more powerful than that and having it at your disposal is a big advantage.
You can reach the rainbow. I'll be there to help.
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
October 16 2010 14:17 GMT
#50
I couldnt live with using linux cos videos turn out crap on it. Thats the only reason I dont use it for my normal needs. I dunno if its the rendering or something else it just looks poor compared to the same video played on MPC in windows.
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
October 16 2010 14:57 GMT
#51
On October 15 2010 19:56 niteReloaded wrote:
Linux will never jeopardize Windows in a way Firefox and Chrome are doing with Internet Explorer.

Linux is still too weird and fucked.

I installed ubuntu netbook edition on my netbook and wasted a shitload of time getting my wireless drivers to work, and then with the next auto-update, they don't work again.

People who say Linux is nowadays as user-friendly and easy to use as Windows - are just plain wrong. You have no idea how frustrating it is to type weird shit you have no idea what the meaning of is in linux terminals, crossing your fingers it works like some ubergeek on the internet said it would.

If you need your computer for serious personal use i.e. you don't want the computer itself be the object of your attention, but rather what you reach thru the computer, DON'T USE LINUX.

Let's use the analogy of computer being your personal bodyguard. It has a function you want it to do.

Windows is a mature, well trained soldier who is independent of you and takes care of you. You sometimes forget it exists, coz you can lean on it.

Linux is a super-trained child assassin from the civil wars in Africa. It has higher hit percentages when it comes to shootings, it runs faster and climbs trees - all to better protect you. But this child is immature, has been neglected by its parents and is unprepared to live as a fully functional organism. It has episodes of angst where you end up bodyguarding it rather than the other way around.
And just sometimes, this child bodyguard shoots its own boss.

Thanks, but no thanks, Linux.
How many years of experience do you have solving problems the windows way? and how many years of doing it the linux way? The linux way involves knowledge of bash scripting and commands, like it or not. If you have those, solving problems in linux is in fact a lot faster and more customizable to your needs(eg script everything instead of running through same old dialogs in windows)
Aah thats the stuff..
pepsidrinker
Profile Joined October 2010
United States11 Posts
October 16 2010 15:04 GMT
#52
What happened to the idea of using both operating systems? I thought dual booting was suppose to solve the problem of what you want to use when you want to use it.
LaSt)ChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States2179 Posts
October 16 2010 15:33 GMT
#53
maybe if you had some experience and/or done a bit more research this would have been easier on you
Sadir
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Vatican City State1176 Posts
October 16 2010 16:04 GMT
#54
I used linux for some time and I was in general really happy wiht it, like doing basic stuff an such
but after like 4 or 5 month it really began to piss me off, mainly because I had to use programms, for which there was no real linux support, or if there was, it was shabby

it would run great for a week and then I had to solve a probelm with my pc for 2 hours or sth.
granted I am no computer expert, but I am not stupid and somhow familiar with computer stuff

roflpie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Estonia93 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-16 16:23:46
October 16 2010 16:23 GMT
#55
I despise Linux (Ubuntu), had to go through various courses in school where they use Ubuntu and it's a pile of crap. Getting stuff done in Windows is way more comfortable. A few years ago my parents bought a laptop which had Vista on it, Vista ran a bit sluggishly on that computer so I decided to install Ubuntu for them. 3 days later I rage uninstalled Ubuntu and put the good old Windows XP on that machine. I will never use that stuff again. It's the only Linux distribution I've used, so I can't say much about outher Linux related topics.
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
October 16 2010 16:32 GMT
#56
On October 16 2010 20:29 niteReloaded wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2010 09:13 Lexpar wrote:
On October 16 2010 07:17 niteReloaded wrote:
Some people pointed out the terminal as a plus side of linux.. :S

Well, before we used windows, we typed shit in DOS. I'm not going back to that, thanks. There's nothing that the terminal offers that can't be done in a normal, intuitive way.


Dude what's your angle? Some people like to have a lot of control over their computers, some don't (you). Ignorance is indeed bliss for a lot of folks, and personally I'm all right with that, but do you think your half baked uninformed argument is gonna change those other guys minds? No. It isn't.

In what way do I not have control over my computer that actually makes a difference?

Meaning, I accept the fact that I don't control everything(neither do you), but let's just say that you do control more.. what's so important to care so much?


BTW to everyone else reacting to my terminal statement: I'm not saying everything that the terminal can do HAS BEEN DONE in a more intuitive way. I said "It could be done."


Just saying it could be done doesn't mean it can be done. It hasn't been done yet, so it is safe to assume that it isn't that easy to replace small shell scripts with a gui. Until it has been done, the console still wins..
Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
October 16 2010 20:02 GMT
#57
RMS would have a stroke O_o

If you want to switch to a new operating system you're going to have to learn it's idiosyncrasies. Linux is free if your time isn't worth anything.
6581
tarpman
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada718 Posts
October 16 2010 22:10 GMT
#58
linux does a few things really well (scripting, customizing), and a few things really poorly (hi openoffice). by comparison windows does a lot of things moderately well. so my advice to people is usually that unless they're doing the things linux does well and not much else, they should be using something else.
Saving the world, one kilobyte at a time.
muse5187
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
1125 Posts
October 17 2010 14:00 GMT
#59
On October 16 2010 07:17 niteReloaded wrote:
Some people pointed out the terminal as a plus side of linux.. :S

Well, before we used windows, we typed shit in DOS. I'm not going back to that, thanks. There's nothing that the terminal offers that can't be done in a normal, intuitive way.


DoS is like a childs toy compared to a linux terminal. You can literally control everything from terminal.
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 15:43:40
October 17 2010 15:43 GMT
#60
I don't like Android. I have been regretting switching from iPhone to Droid X.

My Android crashes 5/6 times a day, even if I TaskKill every now and then.

And it's a pain in the butt to even update any apps.

iPhone GUI was way more seamless. Restrictive in certain aspects, but seamless.


Anyways, my point is, if Android is Linux based, then I don't see it as a success like most people say in this thread.
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