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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
I got to C- on my second season (after playing 20-30 games in the first one), so it's really not that hard to move up. Just get comfortable with the mechanics and get solid build orders, which will take you to D+ by itself. Also, learn to deflect early aggression (you play SC2, you know about this), and you'll win a ton of games. glhf | ||
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kaisr
Canada715 Posts
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On September 30 2010 09:39 youngminii wrote: Call it naivety but I can't see myself struggling THAT hard at the bottom (aside from any smurfs), I mean bw can't be that different from SC2... Can it? I'm sick of SC2 because any idiot can play Terran with no skill while I need to play really well to hold them off. you're going to get raped lol not counting like 0-91092310 D players, or any rank lower than D because those people are obviously lacking a real brain. i should add especially if you're going to play T/Z if you play p it's not that bad for the D ranks, but even then lolol | ||
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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
But you should try it out. Sure you're gonna get whupped the first few times, but I think things will get better if you practice. Also, I hate how people who got here in the "SC2" phase have like...over 1000 posts. I only have around 600/700.  | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
If you give it a shot, obviously play on ICCUP and not B.net, and I suggest playing Protoss. | ||
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Subversion
South Africa3627 Posts
but i found it very difficult going from sc2 to sc1. I know that im wrong about this, so don't flame me, but i just felt sc1 was far more clunky and not nearly as smooth. the control is very difficult. i know the control is actually supposedly better in bw, but im obv not pro bw so it just didnt feel as smooth to me and the AI pathing etc obv isnt as good. It's just very, very different, and its frustrating when things don't work the same way you're used to. Also, yeah, you'll get stomped on ICCUP. I was, lol. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On September 30 2010 10:43 Subversion wrote: You're not wrong, the controls are definitely more clunks and definitely a lot worse. That's part of the skill challenge, though. i tried this as well. but i found it very difficult going from sc2 to sc1. I know that im wrong about this, so don't flame me, but i just felt sc1 was far more clunky and not nearly as smooth. the control is very difficult. i know the control is actually supposedly better in bw, but im obv not pro bw so it just didnt feel as smooth to me and the AI pathing etc obv isnt as good. It's just very, very different, and its frustrating when things don't work the same way you're used to. Also, yeah, you'll get stomped on ICCUP. I was, lol.  Once you understand them, you can make the units do what you want most of the time (besides reavers) but doing it in game while macroing is another issue.I played BW and I don't think I'd want to go back from SC2. I can live without MBS (zerg anyways) and larger groups, but the automining is ingrained in my head now. :| | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
What I mainly want out of this is to know what playing bw is like, getting my multitasking/macro up and improving my micro. In SC2 basically all I do is 2a (2 is my army) but I've seen other people micro so efficiently who came from bw. Will update blog showing how I do. | ||
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iamho
United States3347 Posts
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Tabbris
Bangladesh2839 Posts
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Subversion
South Africa3627 Posts
On September 30 2010 10:48 Jibba wrote: You're not wrong, the controls are definitely more clunks and definitely a lot worse. That's part of the skill challenge, though. Once you understand them, you can make the units do what you want most of the time (besides reavers) but doing it in game while macroing is another issue.I played BW and I don't think I'd want to go back from SC2. I can live without MBS (zerg anyways) and larger groups, but the automining is ingrained in my head now. :| hehe yeah thats kinda what i mean. its like trying to drive a formula 1 car. its difficult, way too sensitive, and you probably won't be able to get the thing to move after 100 tries. but once you've mastered it... its great. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
HOLY SHIT THE GAME'S NOTHING LIKE SC2 WTF? I had no idea what I was doing but my opponent seemed pretty shit too... Then he came with Lurkers (totally forgot they existed) and roflstomped me. The pathing is hilarious. | ||
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knyttym
United States5797 Posts
On September 30 2010 10:59 youngminii wrote: I'm probably going to use Protoss since I use it in SC2, a nice bonus that it's easier to use :D What I mainly want out of this is to know what playing bw is like, getting my multitasking/macro up and improving my micro. In SC2 basically all I do is 2a (2 is my army) but I've seen other people micro so efficiently who came from bw. Will update blog showing how I do. Oh protoss. You'll get c- in a week Kidding but major differences if you really haven't played brood war. Units are stupid as hell. Grab 12 dragoons, right click down a ramp, and you'll see what I mean. Constant worker production is soooooo much harder. 4gate is actually an all-in. | ||
Kiante
Australia7069 Posts
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CynanMachae
Canada1459 Posts
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Trap
United States395 Posts
I don't suggest starting BW with a really competitive attitude, but rather just keep exploring builds that you like because even though the game has been fairly mapped out the execution is always extremely complex. Mid/late game Broodwar is incomparable to SC2. | ||
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On September 30 2010 12:03 youngminii wrote: So I played my first game and HOLY SHIT THE GAME'S NOTHING LIKE SC2 WTF? I had no idea what I was doing but my opponent seemed pretty shit too... Then he came with Lurkers (totally forgot they existed) and roflstomped me. The pathing is hilarious. Try getting goons over a bridge to break a contain on destination :D | ||
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Kiante
Australia7069 Posts
On September 30 2010 12:19 Dfgj wrote: Try getting goons over a bridge to break a contain on destination :D hahahaha yeah thats the reason i dont play desti anymore, and when i do, i just dont try and break their nat, its just not worth the pain | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
"sense", I think it's your brain subconsciously picking up patterns) and you can sort of circumvent it. It's one of those "FUCK YA" moments... | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On September 30 2010 12:22 Kiante wrote: hahahaha yeah thats the reason i dont play desti anymore, and when i do, i just dont try and break their nat, its just not worth the pain Lol I'm the same way, I just deny the heck out of any other expos and make them have to try and come out across the bridges, they usually leave once they are out of resources. Yeah, coming from sc2 the pathing has to be one hell of shock, its bad yes, but it really makes the game a bit more interesting and dyanamic, and makes controlling key areas such as ramps, chokes, and bridges alot more important and effective. You do get used to it though, and as cambrium said you start to just know when your units are about to act completely retarted. | ||
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