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Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
September 27 2010 03:39 GMT
#1
Sup guys, I'm hoping some of you are awesome audiophiles and would love to help me.

I recently bought an Alessandro MS1i to use at home, and one thing that's been bothering me about it is that the high ends are REALLY screechy and hurts my ears. One example I know where the headphone does is during this one song when they start ringing bells in the background. The bells sound absolutely terrible.

I read that there's some sort of magical "burn in" period with headphones. Is this part of the burn in period or will it always be like this? Cause this is pretty much a lot worse in terms of high pitch details (and elec guitars) than the earphone I was using before (Sennheiser CX 500) and it's driving me utterly insane. Is this seriously normal for this pair of headphones? Cause I haven't read anything like that. Or did I just get a defective pair or something?

It could also be a "volume" thing because it only does this at higher volumes (if i lower the volume enough I don't have this problem). The Heaphones are < 10 hours old.

The song in question (well, it does with MOST songs so I'm sure it's not the song's problem since the FLAC rip does this too). It's obvious when what's supposed to be electric guitars kick in at 0:15, and during the chorus (1:58) with the bells.

http://www.mediafire.com/?hilsvk7cunqyclq

lmk. Thanks



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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-27 03:46:13
September 27 2010 03:44 GMT
#2
I'm not too sure about it, but if it only happens when you put the volume up too high then it could be a limitation of your onboard sound (if you have it).

Likely problems with your headphones though.
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Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
September 27 2010 03:52 GMT
#3
On September 27 2010 12:44 FragKrag wrote:
I'm not too sure about it, but if it only happens when you put the volume up too high then it could be a limitation of your onboard sound (if you have it).

Likely problems with your headphones though.


I have the same issues on my laptop too. My iPod also kinda does that :|
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
September 27 2010 04:20 GMT
#4
I assume burn in period is some crap about the adhesive curing and the diaphragm it's likely just crap.

Imo if you have a problem with them return them for another copy, for the reasons you posted. If you still have this problem well use a different headphones lol.
ThePurist
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada686 Posts
September 27 2010 04:34 GMT
#5
Hi there, I am not an audiophile but somewhat knowledgeable of audio/gear/listening and such. So I just want to give you some help.

The burn-in process, in fact produces no scientific changes in frequency responses on spectral analysis (before and after the burn-in). However the majority of the audiophile community, generally likes to burn-in their DYNAMIC driver based IEM (in-ear monitors) and headphones.

Note that BA (Balanced Armature) drivers aren't typically burned-in because of the nature of the driver design. People who swear by burn-ins say the coils of the dynamic driver is either tightened and set better than straight of the factory, thus producing better sound.

Different ways of burning in (recognized by most communities):
- Static for 50 hours
- Bass-heavy music for 50 hours
- XLO recording studios demagnetizing sweep + static 50 hours

Any of these should be fine. I personally do not believe in burn-in as there is no evidence, but is possibly an placebo. I'd say your best bet, if your highs are hurting your ears, go to the EQ of your source player and change the settings accordingly for a more comfortable listening experience. If you need any help or have questions, PM me.

GL
lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
September 27 2010 04:37 GMT
#6
Burn in to me is more mental adaptation and adjustment to a new sound than physical.
FC.Strike
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States621 Posts
September 27 2010 04:37 GMT
#7
For what it's worth, my Klipsch earbuds have sounded like a dream from the moment I got them.

What kind of sound card are you running on your PC? When I used onboard audio, the audio quality was definitely utter crap at higher volumes.
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phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-27 04:41:27
September 27 2010 04:41 GMT
#8
It is true that audiophiles tend to be a wishy-washy bunch and many of their beliefs are questionable. I do think, however, burn-in does exist to an extent, both in the headphone and your head. It takes a while for your brain to adjust to a new sound.
Just give it some time.
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Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-27 04:44:13
September 27 2010 04:43 GMT
#9
Yeah, I was just wondering if "not being burned in" would cause these kind of noises. I'm wondering if this is the "Grados" sound or something but honestly, it's kinda painful.

It's also that most songs with electric guitars on them definitely "bite" (it kinda hurts). I'm guessing this isn't normal at this point though.

I'm gonna post this at head-fi and see if it's normal X_X

It *could* be onboard audio, but I don't think it'd be the problem of my iPod (although iPod sounds a slightly more tolerable) / Laptop/ Desktop.

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