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Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
September 21 2010 23:40 GMT
#61
Most people watch because they have someone to cheer for. It's not only about the level of play that the players will produce. I mean with the players in broodwar you read their interviews and you get to know their personalities and you get a feeling of who you want to watch. It is also easier to feel connected to foreigners for the same reasons. In the GSL I don't think we know much about the players left at this point so we really have nothing to connect with and so we don't really care.


And no one really cares to read the interviews, so no one translates the interviews ^^;;;

I don't think there's much of a drive by the SC2 community to get to know the korean players at all ;p
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
September 21 2010 23:52 GMT
#62
A LOT of the push for SC2 instead of BW is/was because foreigners could compete with Koreans. When foreigners get shut out of the biggest tournament, it's a black mark for that line of thought.
My strategy is to fork people.
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
September 21 2010 23:57 GMT
#63
On September 22 2010 08:40 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +
Most people watch because they have someone to cheer for. It's not only about the level of play that the players will produce. I mean with the players in broodwar you read their interviews and you get to know their personalities and you get a feeling of who you want to watch. It is also easier to feel connected to foreigners for the same reasons. In the GSL I don't think we know much about the players left at this point so we really have nothing to connect with and so we don't really care.


And no one really cares to read the interviews, so no one translates the interviews ^^;;;

I don't think there's much of a drive by the SC2 community to get to know the korean players at all ;p

I've been "reading" them via google translate every day... I read the ones lyri translated that day but after virtually no response I figured they wouldn't be translated ever since. Google translate is enough to get the general idea but overall it's pretty awful lol.
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EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
September 22 2010 00:05 GMT
#64
I've been cheering for Koreans for years, I don't mind doing it for a few more with a new game.
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
Ohitefin
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States19 Posts
September 22 2010 00:15 GMT
#65
I actually did pay for the GSL . It's only 20 bucks and i like to support eSports. Not regretting the payment cause it was awesome while Idra, Artosis, Torch and TLO were playing but now I just don't care enough to watch it. That's my problem. I probably still will but just the replays and not live. I guess Tester is fun to watch.
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-22 00:18:30
September 22 2010 00:17 GMT
#66
I stopped watching since Idra went out, since I thought that no one else had a realistic chance of getting to the finals, no offence to TLO.

Well if it's on and I'm eating lunch then I'll probably watch the games, but won't be very interested.
No I'm never serious.
LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
September 22 2010 00:29 GMT
#67
Lol at how everyone's instantly assuming that koreans must somehow be better. Anyone who's watched the games or even knows about tournament and game records automatically understands that IdrA and TLO stand with the best of them.

"Ro16 are the best therefore they are entertaining" - uh, not necessarily. Oh hey zomg this guy has immaculate macroing, he has a lottt of units now zomggg sooo exciting.....yeah, no.

And seriously, anyone who saw that first game of TLO against hyperdub is seriously insane if they're claiming that Korean games have been the only entertaining or even the most entertaining ones. That game was for the ages.
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Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11112 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-22 00:35:10
September 22 2010 00:31 GMT
#68
On September 22 2010 05:08 Chill wrote:
I watch but I don't really care anymore.


Don't feel the same excitement to be up at 2am. Will watch the Tester/ Cool games though + final with my friend on his vod account.

edit: It took some cheese to knock the big foreigners out, though to be fair Hyper lost the first set more than TLO looked super sexy winning it and Cheese against Idra really is standard. (I mean idra literally redefines cheese )

I'm not gone forever, It'll be awhile before I see enough games to have a favorite korean. Without free vods though, that's not necessarily a guaranteed thing.

Edit 2: 815!!!!!!!!!!!! Or was it 518 ><
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
news
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
892 Posts
September 22 2010 00:36 GMT
#69
On September 22 2010 09:29 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
Lol at how everyone's instantly assuming that koreans must somehow be better. Anyone who's watched the games or even knows about tournament and game records automatically understands that IdrA and TLO stand with the best of them.

"Ro16 are the best therefore they are entertaining" - uh, not necessarily. Oh hey zomg this guy has immaculate macroing, he has a lottt of units now zomggg sooo exciting.....yeah, no.

And seriously, anyone who saw that first game of TLO against hyperdub is seriously insane if they're claiming that Korean games have been the only entertaining or even the most entertaining ones. That game was for the ages.


It definitely wasn't as great as casters hyped it to be, huge mistakes by the korean guy, he had the win secured. It's definitely a surprise the way things turned out to be after that opening, yet it's not "for the ages". In a year all these games and builds will seem outdated and funny. Plus TLO didn't get to play one of the better guys, his opponent was an underdog to begin with.
"Althought it sounds sexism, and probably is, given the right context, we cannot classify the statement itself as a sexist statement by itself," - evanthebouncy!
maga33
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States247 Posts
September 22 2010 00:46 GMT
#70
Not waking up at 4 for non bw stuffz
The victorious strategist only seeks battle after the victory has been won, whereas he who is destined to defeat first fights and afterwards looks for victory.
Taku
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada2036 Posts
September 22 2010 01:05 GMT
#71
On September 22 2010 08:52 Severedevil wrote:
A LOT of the push for SC2 instead of BW is/was because foreigners could compete with Koreans. When foreigners get shut out of the biggest tournament, it's a black mark for that line of thought.

This, a thousand times this. I remember everyone saying that this time around SCII would be an esport for the world rather than just for Koreans, something which a lot of people used against BW. Well, off to a wonderful start aren't we.
When SC2 came for BW, I cried. Now LoL/Dota2 comes for SC2, and I laugh. \o/
Masamune
Profile Joined January 2007
Canada3401 Posts
September 22 2010 01:54 GMT
#72
What's the GSL?
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
September 22 2010 01:58 GMT
#73
' Koreans don't have a genetic advantage in BW. Foreigners can catch up easily. '
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-22 02:03:09
September 22 2010 02:01 GMT
#74
On September 22 2010 10:58 Ack1027 wrote:
' Koreans don't have a genetic advantage in BW. Foreigners can catch up easily. '

Foreigners are lazy when it comes down to mass quality practice :/
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
September 22 2010 02:01 GMT
#75
3 non-koreans in a tournament of 64. Given no national bias, it'd be extremely unlikely for a non-korean to win or even get extremely far. The GSL so far has shown non-korean players are easily capable at being competitive in the korean scene, and that a good number of the korean players are worse players.

Yes, there's less interest now that more known players are gone, but it's a new scene and the familiar faces have to develop through exposure and results.
Elegy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1629 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-22 02:06:25
September 22 2010 02:03 GMT
#76
NaDa took a game off TLO in an already close series.

That's HUGE if you think how much TLO, a top foreigner, has/had practiced at that point in comparison to Nada.

I think foreigners have a very real chance at beating Koreans in sc2, but we'll have to see which teams send their players out for the next GSL. dimaga, sen (if he counts), demuslim, etc would do very very well imo

having all the foreigners out of the gsl isn't surprising given the size of it (only 3 foreigners total, it'd be surprising if they did get through barring some huge skill differential). im still watching because cool, tester, etc, are just amazing players that are worth watching, even if it is sc2.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
September 22 2010 02:29 GMT
#77
On September 22 2010 11:03 Elegy wrote:
NaDa took a game off TLO in an already close series.

That's HUGE if you think how much TLO, a top foreigner, has/had practiced at that point in comparison to Nada.

You mean the game where TLO massed nukes? In a series where games 1 and 3 (and the aborted game 1) were utterly one-sided? During a showmatch?

This is not huge. Savior also took a game off Flash in an all-stars showmatch, that sure didn't mean his ZvT was soaring.
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-22 02:33:29
September 22 2010 02:32 GMT
#78
gsl is on from 7pm-10pm in australia. i can guarantee that we will be more dedicated in watching the gsl than the americans bahhahaha . . .

anyways. alot of bw ppl watch the vods of their events the next day but i guess that is much harder for GSL
zenMaster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada761 Posts
September 22 2010 03:21 GMT
#79
On September 22 2010 11:29 Dfgj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2010 11:03 Elegy wrote:
NaDa took a game off TLO in an already close series.

That's HUGE if you think how much TLO, a top foreigner, has/had practiced at that point in comparison to Nada.

You mean the game where TLO massed nukes? In a series where games 1 and 3 (and the aborted game 1) were utterly one-sided? During a showmatch?

This is not huge. Savior also took a game off Flash in an all-stars showmatch, that sure didn't mean his ZvT was soaring.

Don't forget how Nal_ra took a game off Flash in practice and still can't get through the preliminaries.
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
September 22 2010 03:44 GMT
#80
Features of the GSL:

Low skill ceiling
Lag
Only get to see huge balls of units 1a into each other
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
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