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YejinYejin
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1053 Posts
September 09 2010 03:35 GMT
#1
Hell yeah, I just picked it up. My college has a BJJ club taught by a black belt guy who was taught directly by Renzo Gracie.

Anyways, I'm joining the club as a wee freshman, so there are some juniors and seniors here who have been doing BJJ for a while. I sparred with one guy, who began with, "Don't worry, my takedowns suck" in an attempt to console me, and then proceeded to have absolutely no trouble taking me down. I couldn't get any offense going; the entire time, I was just trying to avoid his grips.

It's fun, though. Really interesting sport. I'm just getting the basics down now, and trying to get back into shape after a summer of sitting around doing nothing physically intensive whatsoever.

Anyone here also do BJJ? Starting out like me? Any really good people have general tips that I can always apply to my BJJ game?



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baller
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
527 Posts
September 09 2010 03:44 GMT
#2
is this fighting style more like eddie gordo brazilian or blanka brazilian
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
September 09 2010 03:55 GMT
#3
I didn't learn Brazilian JiuJitsu, but I did learn regular JiuJitsu It is really fun and imo it's one of the most useful self defense styles there is.

Hints. If you're sparring with someone in any kind of holding each others arms, trying to throw each other game keep your arms on the inside of your opponents. You can get into throwing position easier and by grabbing the inside of their you have more control of their body (and balance) and have more leverage if you're trying to throw them.

If you're practicing wrist twisting (forgive me, I've forgotten the names of almost every move so I'm explaining it by the motions you do) don't make big, circular motions to get wrist control. Small movements focusing on twisting the arm, not spinning it, work much more effectively.

I take it you've practicing escaping wrist grips, but if you haven't get those down early. Grabbing your own locked wrist with your free arm can prevent twisting, then follow up with jerking your locked arm out. (There's a certain angle that gives you the best leverage. Again, it isnt a huge "throw your arms up" movement, it's trying to kinda twist your arm out of their control. Hope that makes any kind of sense).

As a beginner until you get used to JiuJitsu fighting you should focus on two big styles of fighting. The first is just breaking your opponent's balance. Don't focus on fancy throws, a major hip throw or seoi nage (fuck yeah I remembered some moves!) Just push and pull them until you get them in a stance where their balance has a weak point, then exploit it. Something as simple as a heel to heel trip can do it. Secondly, and most importantly, you have to be fast yet strong. You can push and pull like a madman, but if you don't have strength behind it your effort will be meaningless. Also if you're trying to set up you have to give your opponent as little time to react as possible.

I hope at least some of my advice helps :D
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Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
September 09 2010 04:07 GMT
#4
ive always really wanted to learn it but ive yet to find a place around here that offers it
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alechs
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada6 Posts
September 09 2010 04:16 GMT
#5
Have you ever watched Redbelt?

It's by David Mamet (who is a purple belt in BJJ). Maybe a bit esoteric and not an explicit full-on showcase of the martial arts form but I found it a good film. I am interested in what people who practice BJJ think of the film.
lvatural
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States347 Posts
September 09 2010 04:22 GMT
#6
I've got some (about half a year) BJJ experience and still learning. But the first thing you want to focus on is defense. When I mean defense, more than just anti-submissions but prevent your opponent from passing into better positions. Learn to defend in all guards and move from more vulnerable to safer ones (ex. side mount->halfguard).

A lot of times when I roll, I get paired up with more experienced guys who would be in about 4 weight classes higher than me if this was pro boxing; surviving is key at the beginning imo.
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Sleight
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
2471 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-09 04:25:56
September 09 2010 04:25 GMT
#7
I was a BJJ student under Dave Ginsberg, the American two-time back-to-back gold medalist at the Pan American games (the only as of a couple years ago).

I won a few minor tournaments in flyweight in the New England area, in the 1-2 year experience after a few months of prep. The simplest reason why I won? I rolled strictly with guys MUCH bigger than me. I rolled at 145 at my heaviest and I practiced against 180-220 lb guys because most beginners are so hung up on 'forcing' the move they imagine they want to do. I am a weakling at 145, so I could barely force things on 145 lb guys, so it was all technique from me, and you'd be surprised that you can still do most things with enough diligence.

That said, you have to work with guys that are going 80% strength, so called "Flow-jitsu," where you both are technique focused. You will quickly master holding off kimuras, arm-bars, omoplatas, paintbrushes, etc. All the simple joint locks, that big guys loves slamming down on smaller guys.

GO SLOW. Try to make each roll the longest, slowest, most arduous process you can. You learn exponentially from every movement. If you go really fast and end up arm barred, you won't know what it was that cost you the submission. If you go really slow, you will notice, Wow! I let my elbow slip out just a TINY bit too far and he get an arm-bar. Don't do that again.

I wouldn't even bother learning to fight from standing (until you are much more experienced). The match will END on the ground, so just start from your knees, sitting, full guard, half guard, whatever. Don't waste your time deciding whether you prefer the standard Russian takedown vs. single leg vs. double leg. I pretty much just sat down at the start of every tournament match and had no problems ever.

As far as your submission suite, I would focus on things out of having a strong bottom game as a beginner, because most beginners are only comfortable in top, so when you are able to dictate the pace from the bottom, they lose their ability to threaten you in any significant way. Triangles and omoplatas were my go-to and I ended most of my matches with one of those.

As far as practice goes though, throw down your submissions only AFTER you have done everything you can to get into a dominant position. Example, you both start at knees and you end up in full guard. You should do your best to sweep him, go from his full guard to half to mount to backmount. If you really try your absolute hardest at each position and cannot make progress, then start trying submissions in order to be able to get into that better position.

BJJ is physical chess. That's it. Every single move you make should only be with a plan, how you are going to maximize your opportunities and minimize your weaknesses. Don't be a submission cowboy, try not to play around with leg locks, they can really hurt people. Study the game, watch youtube, and once you can create strong mental plans, winning is only technique.
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SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
September 09 2010 04:45 GMT
#8
I've been doing it for a year and a half. At the moment I would just focus on survival and movement (especially on the bottom). Try to figure out what your opponent's next move is and adjust accordingly. Also if it says submissions101 in the video title its crap, don't watch it
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cougar22
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada98 Posts
September 16 2010 06:01 GMT
#9
On September 09 2010 13:25 Sleight wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

I was a BJJ student under Dave Ginsberg, the American two-time back-to-back gold medalist at the Pan American games (the only as of a couple years ago).

I won a few minor tournaments in flyweight in the New England area, in the 1-2 year experience after a few months of prep. The simplest reason why I won? I rolled strictly with guys MUCH bigger than me. I rolled at 145 at my heaviest and I practiced against 180-220 lb guys because most beginners are so hung up on 'forcing' the move they imagine they want to do. I am a weakling at 145, so I could barely force things on 145 lb guys, so it was all technique from me, and you'd be surprised that you can still do most things with enough diligence.

That said, you have to work with guys that are going 80% strength, so called "Flow-jitsu," where you both are technique focused. You will quickly master holding off kimuras, arm-bars, omoplatas, paintbrushes, etc. All the simple joint locks, that big guys loves slamming down on smaller guys.

GO SLOW. Try to make each roll the longest, slowest, most arduous process you can. You learn exponentially from every movement. If you go really fast and end up arm barred, you won't know what it was that cost you the submission. If you go really slow, you will notice, Wow! I let my elbow slip out just a TINY bit too far and he get an arm-bar. Don't do that again.

I wouldn't even bother learning to fight from standing (until you are much more experienced). The match will END on the ground, so just start from your knees, sitting, full guard, half guard, whatever. Don't waste your time deciding whether you prefer the standard Russian takedown vs. single leg vs. double leg. I pretty much just sat down at the start of every tournament match and had no problems ever.

As far as your submission suite, I would focus on things out of having a strong bottom game as a beginner, because most beginners are only comfortable in top, so when you are able to dictate the pace from the bottom, they lose their ability to threaten you in any significant way. Triangles and omoplatas were my go-to and I ended most of my matches with one of those.

As far as practice goes though, throw down your submissions only AFTER you have done everything you can to get into a dominant position. Example, you both start at knees and you end up in full guard. You should do your best to sweep him, go from his full guard to half to mount to backmount. If you really try your absolute hardest at each position and cannot make progress, then start trying submissions in order to be able to get into that better position.

BJJ is physical chess. That's it. Every single move you make should only be with a plan, how you are going to maximize your opportunities and minimize your weaknesses. Don't be a submission cowboy, try not to play around with leg locks, they can really hurt people. Study the game, watch youtube, and once you can create strong mental plans, winning is only technique.


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