• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 10:03
CET 16:03
KST 00:03
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win3Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)38
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft 2 not at the Esports World Cup 2026 Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey!
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open! SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Bleak Future After Failed ProGaming Career [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
BIG STICK PENIS ENLARGEMENT CREAM+27 74 676 7021
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Esports Advertising Shap…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1358 users

so what's the deal with LAN?

Blogs > tomc
Post a Reply
tomc
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States84 Posts
August 21 2010 11:21 GMT
#1
Reposted for TL. Original Post: July 27th 2010

So what's the deal with LAN bitching? Make sure you read that in a Jerry Seinfeld-ish voice like the rest of my entry titles. Personally, I don't find it to be that big a deal. Yeah, LAN is good LAN is great, but is having to log on battlenet still that difficult? I felt the biggest push behind personal lans was that you get to play with all your friends. Obviously you couldn't have everyone on their own internet while doing this, so splitting up yours and moving on did the job back then. There's going to always be haters ranting and raving about that 40 ping vs 5 ping, but I feel that RTS is a bit more forgiving in that aspect. Sure, you want to be the fastest AWP headshot in the land on CS, but complaining about latency in a game like SC2 is pretty sad. It's not brood war, where twitch mutalisk gaming is king. .003 of a second isn't going to hurt you that badly. Some might argue that twitch gaming with some marauders/marines might make a good difference if you are the fucking flash and move faster than the game can.

LAN's were about togetherness for me. Going up against your close friends in punching range was pretty goddamn awesome. We still had the internet back then. We were hooked up. It was all lone and good to go. Keep in mind this was around 2002 or 2003. When SC1+BW came out, it was around '99, when cable internet was still new and exciting content. I'm sure most people would prefer lanning to 56k connection, but even back then was it really THAT noticeable? I don't know. I was like 15 and all I played was BGH and NR20 Fastest Maps (see silver sc2 scrub).


Fastest Maps

I wonder if we'll see stuff like that again. There was a huge community for fastest maps back then, but with the new random opponent ladder system I'm assuming most will just stick to that to prove themselves. Certainly everyone reading this remembers those, there were like 100 versions all different colors, stacked minerals. I'm sure other people remember stacking photon cannons too. Oh god, that was hilarious. ("Oh, just 1-3 cannons? Certainly my army of carriers can handle that." *nuke goes off*)


Ch34t3rz

While I'm on the subject of cheese and cheats, wonder what Blizzard is going to do this time about map hacking? It's apparently ruined WC3 from what my friends told me who used to play. I remember using the shit out of one when I played stupid comp stomps against people who BS (backstab). ICCUP has anticheat stuff too right? Well, regardless, having a maphack will probably be an indispensable tool in SC2 as far as countering goes. No tricks will go unseen.

*
tomeeeo.506 @ SC2
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 11:33:52
August 21 2010 11:32 GMT
#2
So you are saying it's normal that when 100 people are in the same big room they have to go through bnet to play ? (and that suppose they all bought the same version of the game....)

Do you find it normal that two brothers or roommates that both bought the game can't play together because they have the same IP ?

Would also be ridiculous that at a huge event like SC2 OSL finals, the players fight for a 50k$ prize with a shitty latency. Or worse : while playing the game 5 of a bo5, players got a message like "a new patch has been released, the servers are going to reboot in 10 seconds" hahaha

Fastest maps already exist afaik.
ॐ
Terrakin
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1440 Posts
August 21 2010 11:33 GMT
#3
games should not lag in tournaments, a great example is the TLO v NaDa show match, or IdrA vs SarenS, huge lag, which caused a great amount of momentum to get lost while waiting for unpause

theres tons of fastest games already, and other great custom maps. The game hasn't been out very long at all and theres beat em ups, micro challenge games, and great remakes like desert strike, evolves etcc

the general consensus is that blizzard will ban in waves
Fame was like a drug. But what was even more like a drug were the drugs.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
August 21 2010 11:34 GMT
#4
Ping isn't the only reason to have LAN. Did you see the TLO vs Nada showmatch? There were two disconnections. That kind of crap is unacceptable in a broadcasted match, especially since we know there's a perfectly good solution for it.

As long as UMS exists in starcraft, there will be stuff like fastest and bgh. There's something to be said for macroing up massive armies and suiciding them into a base, after all.
Liquipedia
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
August 21 2010 13:33 GMT
#5
OK, maybe LAN will go obsolete sometime. But right now, it isn't. Not everyone has perfect lag-less internet, and you are dumb as fuck if you actually think that.

So this raises the question why Activision doesn't want LAN? It's a simple, harmless convenience which a lot of buyers will probably use if they had a chance.

But no, because having LAN would mean tournaments don't have to go through Bnet, and we can't have that, now can we? Because they need to pay us if they want a tourney, and money is good.
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
August 21 2010 14:29 GMT
#6
Watch the Idra vs. Sarens games from IEM and you'll understand why LAn-support is pivotal for competitive games.
Failure to improve posting standards will result in a lengthy ban. I <crms_> !dumb <GeoffAnderson> crmsdota <crms_> damnit
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 20h 57m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
TKL 172
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 9021
Flash 2895
Soulkey 1520
Jaedong 1280
Larva 894
Soma 616
BeSt 459
Mini 418
ZerO 376
EffOrt 281
[ Show more ]
Rush 237
Mong 222
Snow 117
Hyun 90
Pusan 70
Mind 54
ggaemo 42
sorry 39
Shuttle 36
910 29
ToSsGirL 29
Movie 27
scan(afreeca) 21
Terrorterran 20
Rock 17
Shine 12
Dota 2
singsing2658
syndereN272
Fuzer 196
Dendi173
XcaliburYe157
Counter-Strike
fl0m3161
olofmeister2423
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor151
Other Games
B2W.Neo1258
hiko809
DeMusliM394
Hui .297
crisheroes270
Mew2King152
QueenE151
ZerO(Twitch)28
ArmadaUGS10
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 9
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• iHatsuTV 32
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix7
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 6002
• WagamamaTV351
League of Legends
• Jankos3682
• TFBlade991
Upcoming Events
HomeStory Cup
20h 57m
Korean StarCraft League
1d 11h
HomeStory Cup
1d 20h
Replay Cast
2 days
HomeStory Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-27
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Rongyi Cup S3
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W6
Escore Tournament S1: W7
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
HSC XXVIII
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.