EPTAs for the ZvT thing, I'm a terran player. And even I agree, there's been some games I've won where I just shouldn't have. The guy did everything right and I still ended up winning. Felt kinda bad
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Floydian
United Kingdom374 Posts
As for the ZvT thing, I'm a terran player. And even I agree, there's been some games I've won where I just shouldn't have. The guy did everything right and I still ended up winning. Felt kinda bad | ||
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SoL[9]
Portugal1370 Posts
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Titusmaster6
United States5937 Posts
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Jugan
United States1566 Posts
On August 17 2010 08:05 Empyrean wrote: As a side note, if you look at the current poll, out of everyone who changed their race from BW to SC2, the race with the biggest numbers of people switching to it is Terran.  (myself included) You assume people did it because of the perception of an imbalance in favor of terran. I switched from Z in BW to T in SC2 because when the game was first previewed, I thought reapers looked cool and I always wanted to play Terran since early BW days. | ||
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dogabutila
United States1437 Posts
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Oddysay
Canada597 Posts
diamond zerg look fine , im alway asking them if they find the race balanced and they alway say yes usualy . why no one talk about baneling ? that realy imbalanced when used well | ||
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
SC2 is becoming all TvT, also known as the who has more vikings matchup. I'm playing Terran but I chose this race since the first beta battle report and I dont feel like switching :/ | ||
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SC2Phoenix
Canada2814 Posts
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Fzero
United States1503 Posts
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MamiyaOtaru
United States1687 Posts
but here goes, I hate ZvT so much right now. Wall offs limit scouting beyond the beginning. No way to know if hellions/reapers are coming, so I put in a little ground D. No way to know if air is coming, so a little later a little air D. This is working at low levels because everyone is going reapers or banshees, hopefully investing too much into it and failing. But I do that against anyone with a little skill and they don't go for the rush I am super behind in econ and tech. I hate the games where I deflect hellions then banshees then get run over anyway because the T could expand while I was dealing with harass. I can't do it back to him. Takes me longer to get air, and longer to get anti-air. | ||
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mOnion
United States5657 Posts
On August 17 2010 08:07 Saracen wrote: Let's play some ZvT, you T. I'll make you switch back to Z in an instant XD don't do it you'll make him angrier | ||
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Jugan
United States1566 Posts
On August 17 2010 10:39 MamiyaOtaru wrote: my post in a nutshell: QQ but here goes, I hate ZvT so much right now. Wall offs limit scouting beyond the beginning. No way to know if hellions/reapers are coming, so I put in a little ground D. No way to know if air is coming, so a little later a little air D. This is working at low levels because everyone is going reapers or banshees, hopefully investing too much into it and failing. But I do that against anyone with a little skill and they don't go for the rush I am super behind in econ and tech. I hate the games where I deflect hellions then banshees then get run over anyway because the T could expand while I was dealing with harass. I can't do it back to him. Takes me longer to get air, and longer to get anti-air. You can easily tell if they're going reapers, look for early tech lab. If you don't see one, look for factory or reactor. Send a drone scout, and sac an overlord later. Saccing overlords are done all the time in broodwar. Expanding while harrassing is a basic thing that every competitive broodwar player learns. You just have to stand strong and avoid crumbling under the pressure, and push when he's weakest. Harrassing takes a lot of resources - Your "army" will be bigger and better than his as long as you keep yourself together. | ||
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Exteray
United States1094 Posts
and i agree somewhat.. i do get frustrated as a zerg player myself =< | ||
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nerium
Philippines512 Posts
But yeah, ZvTs are frustrating. | ||
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Sabu113
United States11068 Posts
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Metalwing
Turkey1038 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
On August 17 2010 17:39 Sabu113 wrote: Idk atleast in pvz it seems like zergs are just really greedy. If they aren't allowed to maximize they're macro immediately it's imba somehow. Is TvZ this kind of problem? Or is it more of a timing thing which will go away once people can sense how common builds will behave? It's a timing thing where Terran's timing starts from the moment the game starts and lasts until the Zerg GGs. ;_; But in all seriousness there's a myriad of reasons why people feel TvZ is imba right now. Just take a gander in the SC2 forums, 8/10 threads is about the issue. Some reasons may be more valid than others, but so far it seems like there's a lot of contributing factors. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
Terran and Protoss are just so easy that if you are losing you are probably facing someone who was better than you at bw or got beat by paper/cisor/rock situation with build orders. With zerg you can lose to people way worse than you. I can beat a Terran comp in hard with only probes as protoss. I kinda struggle when i try to beat him as zerg. Yea maybe i'm just that better with protoss ( or just that bad with zerg lol ) but still ... i feel the pain of the average zerg player. | ||
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Kashll
United States1117 Posts
On August 17 2010 08:35 arb wrote: Terran in SC1 is more like ... defend all the gay shit that the other races can throw at you until you finally manage to win. It was uphill every game imo this ^^ It's kind of a nice relief playing T in SC2 from playing it in BW. Now I know how it feels like to play a race that's not ridiculously hard. I hope ZvT gets fixed soon though, but I also hope zerg doesn't get overbuffed, because despite all the complaining the difference isn't ENORMOUS it's just noticeable. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
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