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ulszz
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Jamaica1787 Posts
July 21 2010 18:12 GMT
#21
i didn't read your post, but if you're planning on getting alienware plan on paying for the name and not so much the hardware.
everliving, everfaithful, eversure
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
July 21 2010 18:14 GMT
#22
if you weren't choosing a laptop i would explode

Since you're buying an M11x (the only reasonable Alienware laptop) hfhf
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
sLiniss
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States849 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 18:22:18
July 21 2010 18:14 GMT
#23
On July 22 2010 03:12 ulszz wrote:
i didn't read your post...


i didnt read the rest of your post
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 18:31:24
July 21 2010 18:20 GMT
#24
On July 22 2010 02:17 selboN wrote:
Edit: Actually, I don't have time, must go to work. The guy above me is correct. The "starter specs" to mid range specs on this PC make it far from a "value". Also, since DELL bought out Alienware they have started sacrificing hardware AND going up in price. They have turned Alienware into a glorified XPS. You are buying something a little larger than a Netbook and are happy it's only 5lbs? I don't have an issues with Alienware, I have an issue with you taking a hit at Apple in your posts then turning around and riding Alienware's dick.

Especially since you could buy a 13.3 Mac Book Pro and get a more light-weight, powerful machine. Specs on a 13.3 are 4 gigs DDR3 upgradable to 8, 320M graphics card, 2.4Ghz Duo processor. Aside from the hardware (which Apples manufactures themselves, unlike DELL who gets theirs from ASUS) the computer will have a longer battery life along with a longer computer life. As in, it isn't taking the wear and tear of a PC and you'll be able to continue using it after 4 years. It also has a disk drive and did I mention it was lighter? Anyways, sorry for this wall of text in such a cluttered fashion, but I'm writing this as I go out the door. Again, not saying you're making a bad purchase, just saying you are a hypocrite.


please refrain from ever talking about hardware again until you know what you're talking about

Apple does not have the resources to manufacture anything like a motherboard themselves. They get their motherboards mainly from Foxconn, which is known in the enthusiast market for exploding sockets, shitty capacitors, and shit warranty services (though this is not a huge problem). ASUS is known as one of the best motherboard manufacturers in the world, and the only company that can compete for the title of #1 quality is Gigabyte.

The point of this laptop is gaming. You aren't going to do any gaming with a MacBook Pro.

Oh, and by the way
13.3" MBP
2.4GHz Core 2 Duo, 4 GB of RAM, 320M (which is by the way, not a 320M GT and therefore is the equivalent of a steaming pile of shit) for $1200
vs
11" M11x
1.2GHz - 2.266GHz Core i7, 4GB of RAM, 335M GT (which is by the way, not a steaming pile of shit) for $1150

hi
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
sLiniss
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States849 Posts
July 21 2010 18:30 GMT
#25
On July 22 2010 03:20 FragKrag wrote:
Oh, and by the way
2.4GHz Core 2 Duo, 4 GB of RAM, 320M (which is by the way, not a 320M GT and therefore is the equivalent of a steaming pile of shit) for $1200
vs
1.2GHz - 2.266GHz Core i7, 4GB of RAM, 335M GT (which is by the way, not a steaming pile of shit) for $1150

hi


Hi haha. Just to clarify, you are comparing (first) a mac vs. (second) m11x?
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
July 21 2010 18:31 GMT
#26
should probably make that a bit clearer
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
sLiniss
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States849 Posts
July 21 2010 18:33 GMT
#27
It's cool.

Thanks for the very helpful advice!
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 19:19:22
July 21 2010 19:14 GMT
#28
On July 22 2010 03:20 FragKrag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 02:17 selboN wrote:
Edit: Actually, I don't have time, must go to work. The guy above me is correct. The "starter specs" to mid range specs on this PC make it far from a "value". Also, since DELL bought out Alienware they have started sacrificing hardware AND going up in price. They have turned Alienware into a glorified XPS. You are buying something a little larger than a Netbook and are happy it's only 5lbs? I don't have an issues with Alienware, I have an issue with you taking a hit at Apple in your posts then turning around and riding Alienware's dick.

Especially since you could buy a 13.3 Mac Book Pro and get a more light-weight, powerful machine. Specs on a 13.3 are 4 gigs DDR3 upgradable to 8, 320M graphics card, 2.4Ghz Duo processor. Aside from the hardware (which Apples manufactures themselves, unlike DELL who gets theirs from ASUS) the computer will have a longer battery life along with a longer computer life. As in, it isn't taking the wear and tear of a PC and you'll be able to continue using it after 4 years. It also has a disk drive and did I mention it was lighter? Anyways, sorry for this wall of text in such a cluttered fashion, but I'm writing this as I go out the door. Again, not saying you're making a bad purchase, just saying you are a hypocrite.


please refrain from ever talking about hardware again until you know what you're talking about

Apple does not have the resources to manufacture anything like a motherboard themselves. They get their motherboards mainly from Foxconn, which is known in the enthusiast market for exploding sockets, shitty capacitors, and shit warranty services (though this is not a huge problem). ASUS is known as one of the best motherboard manufacturers in the world, and the only company that can compete for the title of #1 quality is Gigabyte.

The point of this laptop is gaming. You aren't going to do any gaming with a MacBook Pro.

Oh, and by the way
13.3" MBP
2.4GHz Core 2 Duo, 4 GB of RAM, 320M (which is by the way, not a 320M GT and therefore is the equivalent of a steaming pile of shit) for $1200
vs
11" M11x
1.2GHz - 2.266GHz Core i7, 4GB of RAM, 335M GT (which is by the way, not a steaming pile of shit) for $1150

hi



haha the moment i read selbon's joke of a post, i was hoping someone knowledgeable would weigh in. good thing you came along XD

m11x r2 is a decent machine no doubt. i think the biggest issue is that if you are used to a larger screen, see the 11" in person, it may be underwhelming

On July 22 2010 01:12 starfries wrote:
I got the HP Envy 14 because there was a great discount that brought it to around $1000. It has great specs for a 14" although it is quite a bit bigger than the m11x.


oh hi
did you get the envy 14 1050ca? or you manage to buy one from the u.s?
it was a real hassle to arrange how to get mine from the u.s. but hopefully it shall be here soon. :D my first laptop update since dell e1505 ('06 summer)
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
c.Deadly
Profile Joined March 2010
United States545 Posts
July 21 2010 19:22 GMT
#29
It will be tough to game on a laptop with an 11" screen. I'd recommend getting a larger laptop with similar specs or an external monitor.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220746

Something like that would be an identically priced alternative. There are other brands with similar models but ASUS is solid.
Maero
Profile Joined December 2007
349 Posts
July 21 2010 19:31 GMT
#30
I'll second the ASUS suggestion - I bought this guy just after christmas last year for around $650 and have been nothing but happy with it.
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 19:50:27
July 21 2010 19:46 GMT
#31
http://www.gateway.com/systems/product/529668662.php

9800M GTS +1GB VRAM
Dual core Intel Core 2 Duo P7350 2.0GHz
4GB ram
500GB HDD
17in screen

for 800 Bucks. It smokes your puny alienware graphics card, gives you a 17 inch screen, and you can even use it to work out.


I paid for the same except 300GB HD but P8400 2.26GHz core 2 duo two years ago for $1100. So this is even cheaper now.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
kodancer
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States89 Posts
July 21 2010 19:53 GMT
#32
On July 22 2010 00:56 sLiniss wrote:


I need something powerful. Something light. Something... sexy.





I'm not sure why you would want a powerful laptop with 11" screen. I'm assuming you want to carry it around to play games, photoshop, etc. But to be honest, they all require bigger screens than a mere 11", unless you want to strain your eyes to the point you can only use it so often. A monitor isn't the best solution since you want portability.

What I would recommend you is to cross out sexy in your superficial list of the quality of the laptop. Getting a different brand than alienware is going to save you tons of money. Like someone said, I can find a laptop about $1000 cheaper than a top tier alienware laptop with the same specs. In fact I already compared these 2 laptops for a friend want initially wanted an alienware: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220695 and http://www.dell.com/us/en/home/notebooks/laptop-alienware-m17x/pd.aspx?refid=laptop-alienware-m17x&cs=19&s=dhs. Try personalizing it to match the asus, you'll see the difference.

orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 20:01:20
July 21 2010 20:00 GMT
#33
On July 22 2010 04:53 kodancer wrote: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220695



Err, compared to:

http://www.gateway.com/systems/product/529668662.php

you're still paying like 700 bucks more for a marginally better graphics card, slightly more memory (you know that the difference between 4GB and 8GB isn't that much at all, right?), and slightly better processor - all differences which will barely be felt by 99.9% of all gamers?


I do not understand why people don't jump at the Gateway deal - the first time I saw it, I couldn't believe my eyes at how cheap it was.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
July 21 2010 20:11 GMT
#34
On July 22 2010 04:14 JeeJee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 01:12 starfries wrote:
I got the HP Envy 14 because there was a great discount that brought it to around $1000. It has great specs for a 14" although it is quite a bit bigger than the m11x.

oh hi
did you get the envy 14 1050ca? or you manage to buy one from the u.s?
it was a real hassle to arrange how to get mine from the u.s. but hopefully it shall be here soon. :D my first laptop update since dell e1505 ('06 summer)

Actually I go to school in the US so I got a CTO one ^_^.
It was probably about 1000 after Bing's cashback (30% off if you're quick). But NY tax brought it up by $100 .

When is your envy getting delivered? I'm interested to know how you like it, because I've heard of some complaints about various things. But people who buy the envy 14 are generally pretty picky I think . It should be blazing fast anyways, I have a laptop with equivalent specs that I'm probably gonna return after the envy gets here (dv6tse with i5 450m, HD 5650, 4GB ram, ssd) and it runs sc2 like a champ
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
July 21 2010 20:14 GMT
#35
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Comparison-of-Graphic-Cards.130.0.html

9800M GTS is among the top tier of graphics cards, but the HD5650 that's coming with Alienware is only mid-range...
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
QuixoticO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Netherlands810 Posts
July 21 2010 20:15 GMT
#36
Ever since Dell took over Alienware I advise people not to buy them. Former members of Alienware made a new company called Origin and they deliver the good old quality Alienware used to be famous for before the take over of Dell.

http://www.originpc.com/
"Suum Cuique" - Cicero
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
July 21 2010 20:18 GMT
#37
On July 22 2010 05:00 orgolove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 04:53 kodancer wrote: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220695



Err, compared to:

http://www.gateway.com/systems/product/529668662.php

you're still paying like 700 bucks more for a marginally better graphics card, slightly more memory (you know that the difference between 4GB and 8GB isn't that much at all, right?), and slightly better processor - all differences which will barely be felt by 99.9% of all gamers?


I do not understand why people don't jump at the Gateway deal - the first time I saw it, I couldn't believe my eyes at how cheap it was.

Ok first of all the guy wanted an alienware m11x which is 11.6 inches, 17.3 inches is not even remotely close to that. An of course you are gonna find better specs in a 17", the reason the m11x is so expensive is that they pack good hardware in a SMALL laptop. Put the same hardware in a 15" laptop and it'd be half the price.
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
July 21 2010 20:19 GMT
#38
On July 22 2010 05:18 starfries wrote:
Ok first of all the guy wanted an alienware m11x which is 11.6 inches, 17.3 inches is not even remotely close to that.


The product he linked to was also 17 inches btw.


On July 22 2010 05:18 starfries wrote:
An of course you are gonna find better specs in a 17", the reason the m11x is so expensive is that they pack good hardware in a SMALL laptop. Put the same hardware in a 15" laptop and it'd be half the price.



I challenge you to find a 15 inch laptop with 9800M GTS that costs $700.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
July 21 2010 20:23 GMT
#39
On July 22 2010 05:14 orgolove wrote:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Comparison-of-Graphic-Cards.130.0.html

9800M GTS is among the top tier of graphics cards, but the HD5650 that's coming with Alienware is only mid-range...

The Alienware doesn't come with the 5650 what are you talking about i don't even

It comes with the NVIDIA 335M. Which is pretty close. The Envy 14 comes with the HD5650. And both of them are enough to run SC2 on ultra.

To sLiniss, don't listen to the haters, the m11xr2 is a fine laptop, as long as you are aware of what you are getting. If you can put up with the small screen/keyboard (I'm guessing you've tried an 11" netbook) then you should be happy with it. You should also know that it's not exactly an 11", sure the screen is that small but the actual form factor is closer to that of a 12 or 13 inch. There are notebooks in that size with specs close to the m11x and similar weight, but they will all cost close to that amount, and if you like the design of the alienware then go for it.
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
July 21 2010 20:25 GMT
#40
Yeah, have fun trying to run SC2 at max settings for more than 30 min on an 11 inch laptop running 335M. I predict burnout within two years.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
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