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sLiniss
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States849 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 16:02:53
July 21 2010 15:56 GMT
#1
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I'm heading off to college. I can't lug around this piece of crap. The laptop (which I'm using right now because I'm away from home) has a stunning single-core 1.6GHz processor with an amazing 448MB RAM to match (of course this should indicate presence of an integrated GFXCard). The lithium ion battery lasts 25 minutes, just enough for one episode of The Fresh Prince

I need something powerful. Something light. Something... sexy.


After careful consideration, I finally think I'm settled on the Alienware M11x. Lets take a quick look. Nice processor, RAM, and GFX card. Definitely powerful. This laptop is 11 inches and ~4.5 pounds. Small and lightweight? Check.

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Sex appeal? Hell yeah.


But is it affordable. Lets rewind a few years. These computers did what they were made for, but way more expensive than they were actually worth. I remember the pre-made desktops that had no fans and relied 100% on liquid cooling. Most of us remember the time when Alienware was only for the people who had some left over money they could just throw away. Sounds familiar.

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Remind you of something?


I am so glad Dell snatched up Alienware and made it much more reasonable. I've played around with the customization options that Dell/Alienware offers, and the specs I want definitely lands in the ~1k range. For a 4+ year investment, this laptop will surely serve it's purpose.

The downside? Small screen and no CD/DVD drive. What does this mean for an SC fan? Absolutely nothing if I'm gonna just play BW. But I plan to get SC2. Small screen probably may put me at a disadvantage, but with widescreen it shouldn't be too bad. It does mean that I'll either have to download the game or get an external drive. How hard can that be? Pfft. I mean... how many times do you open your CD drive anyways?

Ending notes:
Why am I writing this? For one, I'm bored and thought I'd brush up on my writing. Secondly, I want to hear comments about my decision. I haven't actually bought the computer yet. So if you did read the whole thing, please comment on both aspects if you can. Thanks!

EDIT: For any of you interested in the M11x, here's the link.
http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/alienware-m11x?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&~ck=mn


*****
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
July 21 2010 16:04 GMT
#2
Dell Alienware definitely produces top of the line computers. Although the prices have gone more reasonable, they are still pretty beastly. I compared the recent computer that I bought off Newegg with an Alienware one with the same specs. It turned out to be $1500 vs $4000, and I'm getting better hardware from newegg. I think putting the label 'gaming computer' on a pc really makes the price skyrocket.
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 16:08:31
July 21 2010 16:04 GMT
#3
Nice choice, I think you'll like it. I was seriously considering a m11x for a while although I did end up getting a different laptop.

edit: you don't need a cd drive, I replaced it on my old one with a second hard drive. The small screen and keyboard might take a bit of getting used to but if you're comfortable with small laptops it shouldn't be a problem
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
sLiniss
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States849 Posts
July 21 2010 16:07 GMT
#4
Can either of you guys show/tell me your laptops now?
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
July 21 2010 16:11 GMT
#5
I duno... You're kind of asking to get it stolen. In college, lots of things grow legs and walk off. You do plan on having a roommate, right? Then you can't expect the door to be locked 24/7.

Why not just get a cheaper laptop (with the exact same hardware [minus the rainbow aesthetics[) somewhere else?
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
July 21 2010 16:12 GMT
#6
I got the HP Envy 14 because there was a great discount that brought it to around $1000. It has great specs for a 14" although it is quite a bit bigger than the m11x.
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 16:17:01
July 21 2010 16:15 GMT
#7
On July 22 2010 01:11 danl9rm wrote:
I duno... You're kind of asking to get it stolen. In college, lots of things grow legs and walk off. You do plan on having a roommate, right? Then you can't expect the door to be locked 24/7.

Why not just get a cheaper laptop (with the exact same hardware [minus the rainbow aesthetics[) somewhere else?

I know laptops get stolen all the time but I haven't heard of it happening... even though almost everyone kept their door unlocked when I lived in a dorm. It probably depends where you go too, if you're worried about that then keep it out of sight when you're not using it. Most people looking to steal laptops won't search your room on the off chance you have a laptop somewhere, but if it's out on the table they'll take it.

edit: and $1000 isn't actually that much to spend on a laptop
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
July 21 2010 16:24 GMT
#8
Sex appeal and computers dont exist.
Each day gets better : )
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
July 21 2010 16:24 GMT
#9
is the laptop able to be connected to an external monitor
so u can use that monitor to play sc2 on?
it might just be a great idea ^___^ that way you can get that sweet laptop and play sc2 on it w/a reasonably sized screen ^____^
djcube
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States985 Posts
July 21 2010 16:27 GMT
#10
Interesting choice. 4.5 lbs for 11 inches seems a bit heavy relative to its size; I'm guessing the notebook itself is going to be a bit thick? On the note about size, if you haven't already, I suggest taking a look at those 11.6'' machines in person to get a feel of how large the screen will be and if you're comfortable with it. I was looking for a similar machine as you were (small, lightweight, cheap, though yours isn't necessarily cheap) that I could easily bring to class. Eventually, I came across an Asus 1201n (12'' netbook; I chose a netbook because I already have a desktop for power). It worked to my needs, but the 12'' was a lot smaller than I expected. Yeah, so point being, I think an 11'' machine is a bit small as your main pc.
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
July 21 2010 16:33 GMT
#11
I've never had to worry about my laptop being stolen, ever. In my freshman year everyone left their doors open and I don't think anyone got their shit stolen [that was expensive]. Although now I never have to worry about it since I'm living in an apartment with friends. :D
sLiniss
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States849 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 17:32:16
July 21 2010 16:58 GMT
#12
^A bit more reassuring. When I first read the comments I was seriously doubting myself. I'm living in a quiet dorm so it should be alright. Better than the crazy freshman dorm at least.

On July 22 2010 01:24 ella_guru wrote:
Sex appeal and computers dont exist.

I beg to differ.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
July 21 2010 17:17 GMT
#13
Alienware makes good machines, though they're also mad overpriced, its the Apple of PC's along with FalconNW. That said, 4.5lbs for an 11 inch laptop is far from lightweight, but being a gaming laptop, you can't have the best of both worlds.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 17:26:35
July 21 2010 17:17 GMT
#14
Edit: Actually, I don't have time, must go to work. The guy above me is correct. The "starter specs" to mid range specs on this PC make it far from a "value". Also, since DELL bought out Alienware they have started sacrificing hardware AND going up in price. They have turned Alienware into a glorified XPS. You are buying something a little larger than a Netbook and are happy it's only 5lbs? I don't have an issues with Alienware, I have an issue with you taking a hit at Apple in your posts then turning around and riding Alienware's dick.

Especially since you could buy a 13.3 Mac Book Pro and get a more light-weight, powerful machine. Specs on a 13.3 are 4 gigs DDR3 upgradable to 8, 320M graphics card, 2.4Ghz Duo processor. Aside from the hardware (which Apples manufactures themselves, unlike DELL who gets theirs from ASUS) the computer will have a longer battery life along with a longer computer life. As in, it isn't taking the wear and tear of a PC and you'll be able to continue using it after 4 years. It also has a disk drive and did I mention it was lighter? Anyways, sorry for this wall of text in such a cluttered fashion, but I'm writing this as I go out the door. Again, not saying you're making a bad purchase, just saying you are a hypocrite.
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
zOula...
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States898 Posts
July 21 2010 17:20 GMT
#15
not trolling, but get a mac ^_^
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
July 21 2010 17:21 GMT
#16
Whether or not your stuff ends up stolen depends largely on where you go to school. Generally my room mate and I were pretty good about keeping the door locked last year, but there were several thefts on my floor; one or two ipods, a few wallets, pretty often things like sunglasses, small food items (like coffee, etc.) and even two Laptops - both macbook pros, and I would say your potential alienware is similarly flashy. A friend of mine even had his guitar stolen right out of his closet. That was sad, seeing as it was a REALLY nice guitar. Taylor electric/acoustic and all that.

To be safe, I would get yourself... well a safe. Get one with a security cable, and lock it around something in your room that's immobile. For me, that happened to be the water pipe in my closet. No one ever stole any of my valuables.
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
July 21 2010 17:21 GMT
#17
seems very overpriced for the specs
why do you need to buy a laptop? why not build a desktop yourself
with 1k, you can make a beastly one (will outperform this laptop at least 3x in games)
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gamecrazy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States421 Posts
July 21 2010 17:24 GMT
#18
On July 22 2010 02:20 zOula... wrote:
not trolling, but get a mac ^_^


Good lord, no. Do not get a mac.
sLiniss
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States849 Posts
July 21 2010 17:40 GMT
#19
I never said macbooks are terrible... I only criticized the iPad.
Anyways... no way am I getting a Mac.

On July 22 2010 02:21 phosphorylation wrote:
why do you need to buy a laptop? why not build a desktop yourself
with 1k, you can make a beastly one (will outperform this laptop at least 3x in games)

Cuz I already have one. I need something mobile.

An I don't see how it is overpriced. For the size/performance... I haven't seen anything else that matches up with this laptop.
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5094 Posts
July 21 2010 17:56 GMT
#20
i love how people always say "build your own desktop" to me when I say I wanna get a new laptop. it tells me exactly that they assume everyone
a) CAN BE ASSED to learn how to build one and want to run the risk of it fucking up and being eternally buggy. of course if they offer to build it for me that would be great but there's also another point.
b) I don't want to sit at home all day with it. maybe you do, but not me. until there's some way of moving that desktop around hassle free you haven't made a good point at all.
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
ulszz
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Jamaica1787 Posts
July 21 2010 18:12 GMT
#21
i didn't read your post, but if you're planning on getting alienware plan on paying for the name and not so much the hardware.
everliving, everfaithful, eversure
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
July 21 2010 18:14 GMT
#22
if you weren't choosing a laptop i would explode

Since you're buying an M11x (the only reasonable Alienware laptop) hfhf
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
sLiniss
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States849 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 18:22:18
July 21 2010 18:14 GMT
#23
On July 22 2010 03:12 ulszz wrote:
i didn't read your post...


i didnt read the rest of your post
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 18:31:24
July 21 2010 18:20 GMT
#24
On July 22 2010 02:17 selboN wrote:
Edit: Actually, I don't have time, must go to work. The guy above me is correct. The "starter specs" to mid range specs on this PC make it far from a "value". Also, since DELL bought out Alienware they have started sacrificing hardware AND going up in price. They have turned Alienware into a glorified XPS. You are buying something a little larger than a Netbook and are happy it's only 5lbs? I don't have an issues with Alienware, I have an issue with you taking a hit at Apple in your posts then turning around and riding Alienware's dick.

Especially since you could buy a 13.3 Mac Book Pro and get a more light-weight, powerful machine. Specs on a 13.3 are 4 gigs DDR3 upgradable to 8, 320M graphics card, 2.4Ghz Duo processor. Aside from the hardware (which Apples manufactures themselves, unlike DELL who gets theirs from ASUS) the computer will have a longer battery life along with a longer computer life. As in, it isn't taking the wear and tear of a PC and you'll be able to continue using it after 4 years. It also has a disk drive and did I mention it was lighter? Anyways, sorry for this wall of text in such a cluttered fashion, but I'm writing this as I go out the door. Again, not saying you're making a bad purchase, just saying you are a hypocrite.


please refrain from ever talking about hardware again until you know what you're talking about

Apple does not have the resources to manufacture anything like a motherboard themselves. They get their motherboards mainly from Foxconn, which is known in the enthusiast market for exploding sockets, shitty capacitors, and shit warranty services (though this is not a huge problem). ASUS is known as one of the best motherboard manufacturers in the world, and the only company that can compete for the title of #1 quality is Gigabyte.

The point of this laptop is gaming. You aren't going to do any gaming with a MacBook Pro.

Oh, and by the way
13.3" MBP
2.4GHz Core 2 Duo, 4 GB of RAM, 320M (which is by the way, not a 320M GT and therefore is the equivalent of a steaming pile of shit) for $1200
vs
11" M11x
1.2GHz - 2.266GHz Core i7, 4GB of RAM, 335M GT (which is by the way, not a steaming pile of shit) for $1150

hi
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
sLiniss
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States849 Posts
July 21 2010 18:30 GMT
#25
On July 22 2010 03:20 FragKrag wrote:
Oh, and by the way
2.4GHz Core 2 Duo, 4 GB of RAM, 320M (which is by the way, not a 320M GT and therefore is the equivalent of a steaming pile of shit) for $1200
vs
1.2GHz - 2.266GHz Core i7, 4GB of RAM, 335M GT (which is by the way, not a steaming pile of shit) for $1150

hi


Hi haha. Just to clarify, you are comparing (first) a mac vs. (second) m11x?
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
July 21 2010 18:31 GMT
#26
should probably make that a bit clearer
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
sLiniss
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States849 Posts
July 21 2010 18:33 GMT
#27
It's cool.

Thanks for the very helpful advice!
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 19:19:22
July 21 2010 19:14 GMT
#28
On July 22 2010 03:20 FragKrag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 02:17 selboN wrote:
Edit: Actually, I don't have time, must go to work. The guy above me is correct. The "starter specs" to mid range specs on this PC make it far from a "value". Also, since DELL bought out Alienware they have started sacrificing hardware AND going up in price. They have turned Alienware into a glorified XPS. You are buying something a little larger than a Netbook and are happy it's only 5lbs? I don't have an issues with Alienware, I have an issue with you taking a hit at Apple in your posts then turning around and riding Alienware's dick.

Especially since you could buy a 13.3 Mac Book Pro and get a more light-weight, powerful machine. Specs on a 13.3 are 4 gigs DDR3 upgradable to 8, 320M graphics card, 2.4Ghz Duo processor. Aside from the hardware (which Apples manufactures themselves, unlike DELL who gets theirs from ASUS) the computer will have a longer battery life along with a longer computer life. As in, it isn't taking the wear and tear of a PC and you'll be able to continue using it after 4 years. It also has a disk drive and did I mention it was lighter? Anyways, sorry for this wall of text in such a cluttered fashion, but I'm writing this as I go out the door. Again, not saying you're making a bad purchase, just saying you are a hypocrite.


please refrain from ever talking about hardware again until you know what you're talking about

Apple does not have the resources to manufacture anything like a motherboard themselves. They get their motherboards mainly from Foxconn, which is known in the enthusiast market for exploding sockets, shitty capacitors, and shit warranty services (though this is not a huge problem). ASUS is known as one of the best motherboard manufacturers in the world, and the only company that can compete for the title of #1 quality is Gigabyte.

The point of this laptop is gaming. You aren't going to do any gaming with a MacBook Pro.

Oh, and by the way
13.3" MBP
2.4GHz Core 2 Duo, 4 GB of RAM, 320M (which is by the way, not a 320M GT and therefore is the equivalent of a steaming pile of shit) for $1200
vs
11" M11x
1.2GHz - 2.266GHz Core i7, 4GB of RAM, 335M GT (which is by the way, not a steaming pile of shit) for $1150

hi



haha the moment i read selbon's joke of a post, i was hoping someone knowledgeable would weigh in. good thing you came along XD

m11x r2 is a decent machine no doubt. i think the biggest issue is that if you are used to a larger screen, see the 11" in person, it may be underwhelming

On July 22 2010 01:12 starfries wrote:
I got the HP Envy 14 because there was a great discount that brought it to around $1000. It has great specs for a 14" although it is quite a bit bigger than the m11x.


oh hi
did you get the envy 14 1050ca? or you manage to buy one from the u.s?
it was a real hassle to arrange how to get mine from the u.s. but hopefully it shall be here soon. :D my first laptop update since dell e1505 ('06 summer)
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
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c.Deadly
Profile Joined March 2010
United States545 Posts
July 21 2010 19:22 GMT
#29
It will be tough to game on a laptop with an 11" screen. I'd recommend getting a larger laptop with similar specs or an external monitor.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220746

Something like that would be an identically priced alternative. There are other brands with similar models but ASUS is solid.
Maero
Profile Joined December 2007
349 Posts
July 21 2010 19:31 GMT
#30
I'll second the ASUS suggestion - I bought this guy just after christmas last year for around $650 and have been nothing but happy with it.
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 19:50:27
July 21 2010 19:46 GMT
#31
http://www.gateway.com/systems/product/529668662.php

9800M GTS +1GB VRAM
Dual core Intel Core 2 Duo P7350 2.0GHz
4GB ram
500GB HDD
17in screen

for 800 Bucks. It smokes your puny alienware graphics card, gives you a 17 inch screen, and you can even use it to work out.


I paid for the same except 300GB HD but P8400 2.26GHz core 2 duo two years ago for $1100. So this is even cheaper now.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
kodancer
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States89 Posts
July 21 2010 19:53 GMT
#32
On July 22 2010 00:56 sLiniss wrote:


I need something powerful. Something light. Something... sexy.





I'm not sure why you would want a powerful laptop with 11" screen. I'm assuming you want to carry it around to play games, photoshop, etc. But to be honest, they all require bigger screens than a mere 11", unless you want to strain your eyes to the point you can only use it so often. A monitor isn't the best solution since you want portability.

What I would recommend you is to cross out sexy in your superficial list of the quality of the laptop. Getting a different brand than alienware is going to save you tons of money. Like someone said, I can find a laptop about $1000 cheaper than a top tier alienware laptop with the same specs. In fact I already compared these 2 laptops for a friend want initially wanted an alienware: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220695 and http://www.dell.com/us/en/home/notebooks/laptop-alienware-m17x/pd.aspx?refid=laptop-alienware-m17x&cs=19&s=dhs. Try personalizing it to match the asus, you'll see the difference.

orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 20:01:20
July 21 2010 20:00 GMT
#33
On July 22 2010 04:53 kodancer wrote: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220695



Err, compared to:

http://www.gateway.com/systems/product/529668662.php

you're still paying like 700 bucks more for a marginally better graphics card, slightly more memory (you know that the difference between 4GB and 8GB isn't that much at all, right?), and slightly better processor - all differences which will barely be felt by 99.9% of all gamers?


I do not understand why people don't jump at the Gateway deal - the first time I saw it, I couldn't believe my eyes at how cheap it was.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
July 21 2010 20:11 GMT
#34
On July 22 2010 04:14 JeeJee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 01:12 starfries wrote:
I got the HP Envy 14 because there was a great discount that brought it to around $1000. It has great specs for a 14" although it is quite a bit bigger than the m11x.

oh hi
did you get the envy 14 1050ca? or you manage to buy one from the u.s?
it was a real hassle to arrange how to get mine from the u.s. but hopefully it shall be here soon. :D my first laptop update since dell e1505 ('06 summer)

Actually I go to school in the US so I got a CTO one ^_^.
It was probably about 1000 after Bing's cashback (30% off if you're quick). But NY tax brought it up by $100 .

When is your envy getting delivered? I'm interested to know how you like it, because I've heard of some complaints about various things. But people who buy the envy 14 are generally pretty picky I think . It should be blazing fast anyways, I have a laptop with equivalent specs that I'm probably gonna return after the envy gets here (dv6tse with i5 450m, HD 5650, 4GB ram, ssd) and it runs sc2 like a champ
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
July 21 2010 20:14 GMT
#35
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Comparison-of-Graphic-Cards.130.0.html

9800M GTS is among the top tier of graphics cards, but the HD5650 that's coming with Alienware is only mid-range...
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
QuixoticO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Netherlands810 Posts
July 21 2010 20:15 GMT
#36
Ever since Dell took over Alienware I advise people not to buy them. Former members of Alienware made a new company called Origin and they deliver the good old quality Alienware used to be famous for before the take over of Dell.

http://www.originpc.com/
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starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
July 21 2010 20:18 GMT
#37
On July 22 2010 05:00 orgolove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 04:53 kodancer wrote: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220695



Err, compared to:

http://www.gateway.com/systems/product/529668662.php

you're still paying like 700 bucks more for a marginally better graphics card, slightly more memory (you know that the difference between 4GB and 8GB isn't that much at all, right?), and slightly better processor - all differences which will barely be felt by 99.9% of all gamers?


I do not understand why people don't jump at the Gateway deal - the first time I saw it, I couldn't believe my eyes at how cheap it was.

Ok first of all the guy wanted an alienware m11x which is 11.6 inches, 17.3 inches is not even remotely close to that. An of course you are gonna find better specs in a 17", the reason the m11x is so expensive is that they pack good hardware in a SMALL laptop. Put the same hardware in a 15" laptop and it'd be half the price.
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orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
July 21 2010 20:19 GMT
#38
On July 22 2010 05:18 starfries wrote:
Ok first of all the guy wanted an alienware m11x which is 11.6 inches, 17.3 inches is not even remotely close to that.


The product he linked to was also 17 inches btw.


On July 22 2010 05:18 starfries wrote:
An of course you are gonna find better specs in a 17", the reason the m11x is so expensive is that they pack good hardware in a SMALL laptop. Put the same hardware in a 15" laptop and it'd be half the price.



I challenge you to find a 15 inch laptop with 9800M GTS that costs $700.
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starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
July 21 2010 20:23 GMT
#39
On July 22 2010 05:14 orgolove wrote:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Comparison-of-Graphic-Cards.130.0.html

9800M GTS is among the top tier of graphics cards, but the HD5650 that's coming with Alienware is only mid-range...

The Alienware doesn't come with the 5650 what are you talking about i don't even

It comes with the NVIDIA 335M. Which is pretty close. The Envy 14 comes with the HD5650. And both of them are enough to run SC2 on ultra.

To sLiniss, don't listen to the haters, the m11xr2 is a fine laptop, as long as you are aware of what you are getting. If you can put up with the small screen/keyboard (I'm guessing you've tried an 11" netbook) then you should be happy with it. You should also know that it's not exactly an 11", sure the screen is that small but the actual form factor is closer to that of a 12 or 13 inch. There are notebooks in that size with specs close to the m11x and similar weight, but they will all cost close to that amount, and if you like the design of the alienware then go for it.
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orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
July 21 2010 20:25 GMT
#40
Yeah, have fun trying to run SC2 at max settings for more than 30 min on an 11 inch laptop running 335M. I predict burnout within two years.
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fellcrow
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States288 Posts
July 21 2010 20:28 GMT
#41
If you have a desktop, keep it for gaming and buy a cheaper laptop that is more mobile for school. No point in having 2 machines to game when you can only use one. And laptops are over priced, especially alienware. You're gonna pay approximately $500 more then you should for there logo on it.
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starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
July 21 2010 20:29 GMT
#42
On July 22 2010 05:19 orgolove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 05:18 starfries wrote:
Ok first of all the guy wanted an alienware m11x which is 11.6 inches, 17.3 inches is not even remotely close to that.


The product he linked to was also 17 inches btw.


Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 05:18 starfries wrote:
An of course you are gonna find better specs in a 17", the reason the m11x is so expensive is that they pack good hardware in a SMALL laptop. Put the same hardware in a 15" laptop and it'd be half the price.



I challenge you to find a 15 inch laptop with 9800M GTS that costs $700.

....
you may want to reread what I wrote

Anyways the Gateway is a marvelous laptop but it's not what sLiniss is looking for. it's like he said "hey guys what do you think of this motorcycle" and you're saying "well it's nice but this car is cheaper and has way more features"
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kodancer
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States89 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 20:58:37
July 21 2010 20:47 GMT
#43
orgolove, my comparison was purely an example which I compared my friend's m17x choice to the asus as the specs can be matched quite accurately.

But here's an example OP might have a prudent use for:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220746

For the almost same price you get a 17" screen opposed to an 11" AND 4gb ram to 2gb (which more than make up the slight lower cpu than the m11x's). And guess what? THEY BOTH HAVE THE SAME GPU.

starfries, I customized a m15x with similar specs with a worse GPU as the m11x's. The 15" wasn't even close to half the price. The 15" actually costs about 50% more.

EDIT: I think the analogy that a motorcycle is to an 11" as a car is to a 17" is totally wrong. It might actually be closer to say that the car is to a desktop, but the analogy is wrong nonetheless. I mean, how else are you going to carry an 11"? You're probably still going to carry it in a backpack or a laptop bag the same way you would a 17".
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
July 21 2010 20:51 GMT
#44
On July 22 2010 01:04 Chairman Ray wrote:
Dell Alienware definitely produces top of the line computers. Although the prices have gone more reasonable, they are still pretty beastly. I compared the recent computer that I bought off Newegg with an Alienware one with the same specs. It turned out to be $1500 vs $4000, and I'm getting better hardware from newegg. I think putting the label 'gaming computer' on a pc really makes the price skyrocket.


I agree with you, a computer I was looking at on Newegg was 900$ and it was amazing. Then I actually looked up all of the parts separately because I wanted to upgrade the graphics card and it was even cheaper! So yeah, the people you are paying to put together your machine need to make a living so it is more expensive, I'm talking about desktops because those are extremely easy to put together but laptops are a different story. If you do not know how to make a computer go with this, if you are tech savvy then I would suggest making your own.
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starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
July 21 2010 21:20 GMT
#45
On July 22 2010 05:47 kodancer wrote:
orgolove, my comparison was purely an example which I compared my friend's m17x choice to the asus as the specs can be matched quite accurately.

But here's an example OP might have a prudent use for:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220746

For the almost same price you get a 17" screen opposed to an 11" AND 4gb ram to 2gb (which more than make up the slight lower cpu than the m11x's). And guess what? THEY BOTH HAVE THE SAME GPU.

starfries, I customized a m15x with similar specs with a worse GPU as the m11x's. The 15" wasn't even close to half the price. The 15" actually costs about 50% more.


Yeah the "half" thing was a huge exaggeration lol, you're right that if you want Alienware the 11" is cheaper. But if you just want the specs of the m11x and you're fine with 15" or up you can get them for cheaper in a consumer HP or Dell laptop.
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Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
July 21 2010 23:39 GMT
#46
Do yourself a favor and DONT buy that piece of shit 11' alienware laptop -_- Playing on that has been by far, my least pleasant gaming experiece. If you have a 19' monitor, it's like playing on windows mode a quarter size of your screen. And widescreen is fail. The only good thing I have to say about that model is that it's portable. That's pretty much it.
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Yammiez
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada186 Posts
July 22 2010 01:12 GMT
#47
I'm actually in the market for this laptop; reading reviews, doing a bunch of research, finding the best deal. Lots of good things but yes the screen is kind of small, but I'll just bring an external monitor if I ever want to play at home.

Still on the fence between the Alienware M11x and the MSI GX640, but the mobility should be great for going back to school.
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sLiniss
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States849 Posts
July 22 2010 04:36 GMT
#48
Didn't anticipate this much debate over this. I have to agree with starfries though... most of you guys are showing me big laptops. I guess when it comes down to it the 11 inches is best for my scenario. It is a laptop that I can carry around easily on campus. But when I'm gonna sit down and game, I can plug it into an external monitor in my room.
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
July 22 2010 06:32 GMT
#49
fitting a gaming-grade hardware in such small laptop is difficult
you are going to either pay a lot for it or get a shitty hardware
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orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
July 22 2010 06:39 GMT
#50
As I said before, good luck trying to run SC2 at max settings for more than 30 min on an 11 inch laptop running 335M. I predict burnout within two years. Lawl gaming on an 11 inch heat sink ROFL
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
July 22 2010 07:01 GMT
#51
$1000 for a computer with no dvd drive... hmmm. You know, I realise that USB and internet downloads are starting to make CDs obsolete, but what if you ever want to rip something, or someone from the 90s travels forward in time to give you a mix CD of their favourite Beach Boys songs?

You're gonna kick yourself.
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TadH
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1846 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-22 08:25:06
July 22 2010 08:23 GMT
#52
Dude I have an Alienware m11x, it's amazing. You will NOT regret the decision at ALL, it runs a lot of todays games at decent FPS and SC runs in low settings at around 40-45 FPS which is fine.

EDIT: And if you are using an external monitor, you can adjust the resolution seperately, so the guy above who said it was like playuing in 1/4 of windowed mode or w/e is wrong, I play SC2 on my 23 inch LED monitor just fine at like 1800x1080 or whatever it is
TadH
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1846 Posts
July 22 2010 08:25 GMT
#53
On July 22 2010 16:01 Chef wrote:
$1000 for a computer with no dvd drive... hmmm. You know, I realise that USB and internet downloads are starting to make CDs obsolete, but what if you ever want to rip something, or someone from the 90s travels forward in time to give you a mix CD of their favourite Beach Boys songs?

You're gonna kick yourself.


You can buy an external DVD drive for like 50 bucks ....
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
July 22 2010 09:23 GMT
#54
I still think Alienware is sinfully overpriced :/

Plus I enjoy looking for the best P/P component.

Maybe I'm just cheap.
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sLiniss
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States849 Posts
July 22 2010 10:57 GMT
#55
On July 22 2010 17:25 TadH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 16:01 Chef wrote:
$1000 for a computer with no dvd drive... hmmm. You know, I realise that USB and internet downloads are starting to make CDs obsolete, but what if you ever want to rip something, or someone from the 90s travels forward in time to give you a mix CD of their favourite Beach Boys songs?

You're gonna kick yourself.


You can buy an external DVD drive for like 50 bucks ....

Lol I guess the guy didn't actually read my OP
TadH
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1846 Posts
July 22 2010 12:39 GMT
#56
On July 22 2010 19:57 sLiniss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 17:25 TadH wrote:
On July 22 2010 16:01 Chef wrote:
$1000 for a computer with no dvd drive... hmmm. You know, I realise that USB and internet downloads are starting to make CDs obsolete, but what if you ever want to rip something, or someone from the 90s travels forward in time to give you a mix CD of their favourite Beach Boys songs?

You're gonna kick yourself.


You can buy an external DVD drive for like 50 bucks ....

Lol I guess the guy didn't actually read my OP


It's really a great laptop, I love it.
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