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I'm having a bit of a dilemma (which when worded like that seems like a bit of an understatement).
Sunday, not sure what time and you'll know why as you read on, my brother went to wal-mart to get some food as he was leaving the store and in the parking lot he saw what appeared to be some guy (mid 20's) hit his girlfriend. He approached the couple and said, "Hey man you're not hitting your girlfriend are you?" at which point he said something along the lines of, "mind your own fucking business". They then went on to exchange some words and then 2other guys got out of a car (friends of his, naturally). Then, for whatever reason, the girl went off and punched my brother in the back of the head. He turned around to confront her, but after he turned around the 3guys jumped on top of him threw him on the ground and went off to basically ground pound him. He said he pretty much blacked out, but came to all delirious and with what was a concussion as far as I could tell.
Now, here is my dilemma. He is telling me that he does not want to involve the cops at all. He absolutely refuses to give me a reason why he wouldn't go to the cops and then to wal-mart, which has parking lot security cameras, and go after these kids to press charges. He has a huge rash on his face from hitting the black top and then being kicked in the the parking lot. Which I think is enough in itself to file a police report, but like I said he does not want to pursue it at all. All the while I'm just thinking to myself. These fucks now think they can gang up on another guy and get away with it without consequence. Hell, they might have already gotten away with it before. On top of that I don't want him running the risk of running into that group again. My littler brother lives in that same town too so the thought crosses my mind of this happening to him.
I can go to the police station have them look into getting the tape and probably getting their license plate, but what can I do if my brother just denies it ever happening (which he claims he will do). All I can think is something had to of happened to where he doesn't want the footage to be seen that or his pride is standing in his way. He's my little brother, but he's bigger than me. Works out and what have you. He said the people that jumped him were "wiggers". I don't know what to make of the situation, but it makes me fucking furious to think that these fucks will get away with doing this if he decides to just sit back and do nothing about it.
So, should I just honor his wishes for me to drop it and let it die or should I do what I feel is right and get these fucks what they deserve for probably aggravated assault?
 
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Maybe he doesn't want the cops involved because your brother hit the guy first and it was caught on camera. Either that or the honor issue.
But I think you should do what you think is right (getting "these fucks what they deserve" ) 
Maybe the money he gets can pay for the expenses of bringing them to court. Not trying to be pessimistic, just something you gotta think about before litigating.
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I think you need to talk to your brother and convince him to do it. You shouldn't take action on your own because it's his experience and you shouldn't let it be.
Your brother knows exactly what happened. Perhaps there's some reason he doesn't want to go to the cops. Talking to him more is the first step.
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Get a group and kick the shit out of them? Really though the answer for violence is more violence until one side bitches out. Cops don't solve problems they make them worse, I'd rather take a beating or give one then call up the cops to take care of my business. Dudes a woman beater so obviously he needs a good swat.
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I've been grilling him about it since I found out yesterday. Well, not grilling, but trying to find out what possible reason he'd have for not wanting to press charges. I thought maybe he hit that chick in the face after she hit him, but he said he didn't. He also said she was the first to throw a punch and after that he was jumped. Said he got in as many shots as he could before he blacked out. My brother is 24 also incase anyone was wondering.
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On July 14 2010 06:00 SLTorak.Hobo wrote:
Get a group and kick the shit out of them? Really though the answer for violence is more violence until one side bitches out. Cops don't solve problems they make them worse, I'd rather take a beating or give one then call up the cops to take care of my business. Dudes a woman beater so obviously he needs a good swat.
Probably the worst advice to be taken seriously. Don't know who they are and don't know what they would of done to my brother if it had been somewhere secluded. For all I know they would of killed him. If he wasn't a bigger buy they might of killed him.
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Not to be an ass either but most people don't want to be rats, I don't know about most people on here but the majority of people I know fight their own battles and prefer it that way. Running to the cops gets you labled a rat and in most cases makes people want to punk you even more.
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Well, he doesn't live in the ghetto with street gangs. It's a small town with not too many unknown faces. Chances are they are kids that live around there.
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Let's figure out which is better for your brother and you:
Go to cops/court - your brother will get some punishment cuz he threw the first punch. those guys get some punishment for jumping your brother. you feel good about getting back at those guys.
Leave it - your brother doesn't get his vengeance but he also doesn't get some punishment. those guys also don't get punished. you feel angry at those guys.
forget about those guys at the moment and focus on your brother. he obviously values not getting involved in complicated situations over getting back at those guys. you, the opposite. if you change your view, then you both will be more satisfied with not going to the cops.
edit - option 3, hire some people to tear those guys up. hell yeah
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I don't live in a ghetto and ghettos aren't the only place where violence occurs, you say he is in a small town where people know each other thats all the more reason not to call the cops because like I said - you get labeled and once you are known for being a rat its all the more reason people will want to fuck with you. You should ask him why he doesn't want to go to the cops because there is good chance I am right  .
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On July 14 2010 06:03 SLTorak.Hobo wrote:
Not to be an ass either but most people don't want to be rats, I don't know about most people on here but the majority of people I know fight their own battles and prefer it that way. Running to the cops gets you labled a rat and in most cases makes people want to punk you even more.
Haha holy shit is this a joke? You in middle school or something? Go to the cops btw. Would be ridiculous if those punks received no punishment for this.
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Being a "rat" has nothing to do with it. He doesn't hangout with people like this. He isn't the type to go out pick fights and do shit where it would be bad for people to rat on him. Street justice is a very poor way of handling things. In my mind if these people get taken to court and/or jail it'll be a notice for others that are doing this. Do stuff like this and there will be consequences for your actions. Has nothing to do with being a rat it has to do with being practical and I really don't think saving some pride after getting beat down to almost being unconscious is very practical. Not only that, but the goddamn guy appears to be beating his gf/wife.
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Nope, its called the real world where most people have the balls to deal with their own problems.
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On July 14 2010 06:13 SLTorak.Hobo wrote:
Nope, its called the real world where most people have the balls to deal with their own problems.
OP said it was 3v1. Are you trollin me? lol
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You should read the troll thread, that being said you should read what I wrote too, I would of just got a couple friends and beat the shit out of them(or went down trying).
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both of you are goons, stop arguing and don't throw the word 'troll' around. this isn't your other forums where you can post willy-nilly
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I shouldn't of even typed anything up. I'm just raging pretty hard at the thought of my brother being beaten down by some fuck faces like that. I don't like divulging personal aspects of my life at random, usually, but I just think I wanted some things like... "Yeah, get the cops and fuck them.. fuck them good."
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On July 14 2010 06:27 tonight wrote:
I shouldn't of even typed anything up. I'm just raging pretty hard at the thought of my brother being beaten down by some fuck faces like that. I don't like divulging personal aspects of my life at random, usually, but I just think I wanted some things like... "Yeah, get the cops and fuck them.. fuck them good."
That's my opinion. Do it. You shouldn't really listen to your brother in this case, at least not if he's telling the truth.
*And please ignore that Torak Hobo guy...
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I wont argue or nothing, but honestly all the cops will do in most cases is slap them on the wrist unless they have an extensive record already. Especially since there is 3-4 of them its easy to make up a story about how your brother started it ect, unless there is cameras or eye witnesses I have heard of people having these types of cases backfire on them really easily or they drop the charges because its a waste of time. Good luck though.
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On July 14 2010 06:29 Shauni wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2010 06:27 tonight wrote:
I shouldn't of even typed anything up. I'm just raging pretty hard at the thought of my brother being beaten down by some fuck faces like that. I don't like divulging personal aspects of my life at random, usually, but I just think I wanted some things like... "Yeah, get the cops and fuck them.. fuck them good." That's my opinion. Do it. You shouldn't really listen to your brother in this case, at least not if he's telling the truth. *And please ignore that Torak Hobo guy...
I'm pretty passive and most people I know are. So, even if I wanted to rally a small weak army of pussies to fight for my brother's honor I probably couldn't, but thank you.
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