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ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
July 14 2010 01:07 GMT
#41
On July 14 2010 07:26 boesthius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2010 06:07 ieatkids5 wrote:
Let's figure out which is better for your brother and you:

Go to cops/court - your brother will get some punishment cuz he threw the first punch. those guys get some punishment for jumping your brother. you feel good about getting back at those guys.

Leave it - your brother doesn't get his vengeance but he also doesn't get some punishment. those guys also don't get punished. you feel angry at those guys.

forget about those guys at the moment and focus on your brother. he obviously values not getting involved in complicated situations over getting back at those guys. you, the opposite. if you change your view, then you both will be more satisfied with not going to the cops.


edit - option 3, hire some people to tear those guys up. hell yeah

If you reread the op you'll see that the girl threw the first punch, so there's no reason for his brother to be punished at all =/.


oops! for some reason i kept thinking the entire time that his brother threw the first punch. well, now i don't see any reason for him not to go to the cops.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
July 14 2010 01:23 GMT
#42
definitely do not act yet

keep grilling your brother and make him tell you the truth

if he continues with his bullshit, tell your brother you called the cops, then get a crafty friend of yours to call him pretending to be a cop saying he needs to come downtown to make a statement (and that no arrests will be made yet), and that they have video evidence of everything that happened

after that happens, he should tell you the truth and you will be able to make a much better assessment of the situation

if his story doesn't change he probably really is telling the truth and has his own reasons (as petty as they may be) for not pressing charges

in any case, remember a couple things: these wiggers beating ppl up in the parking lot already have horrible lives so it's probably not worth pursuing if your brother really doesn't want to.

also, if he's lying you might find something on that tape you don't want to see that will get him in deeper trouble

i would advise just letting it go, though, if i was in that situation myself i'm pretty positive i would not stop until i was sure i got the truth, even if that meant going to the police lol
why so 진지해?
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
July 14 2010 01:29 GMT
#43
Yeah, I just really want to know what possible reason there could be for letting this shit go. He must have damaged his fucking brain or something to want to let this sort of thing go. I've seen him get worked up over nothing at all. Maybe he's just embarrassed, but I even so I can't understand that logic. I'm not going to act without knowing everything though out of respect for him being my brother. If it were some friend I would probably just go off and do it.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
ThePurist
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada686 Posts
July 14 2010 01:33 GMT
#44
Carlito's way all day.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
July 14 2010 01:36 GMT
#45
I would talk to him about it regarding the fact that what they did cannot be tolerated and about the abuse, not about doing it for revenge. Like boes said, if he still won't budge there's nothing you can do. I feel awful sorry for your brother though, horrible thing to happen, especially when trying to stick up for someone else.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 01:49:17
July 14 2010 01:41 GMT
#46
On July 14 2010 10:29 tonight wrote:
Yeah, I just really want to know what possible reason there could be for letting this shit go. He must have damaged his fucking brain or something to want to let this sort of thing go. I've seen him get worked up over nothing at all. Maybe he's just embarrassed, but I even so I can't understand that logic. I'm not going to act without knowing everything though out of respect for him being my brother. If it were some friend I would probably just go off and do it.

He's probably scared they'll come after him if they know he went to the police.
And yeah, guys don't really like talking about how they got beat up.

Don't you ever watch Law and Order, man? Your blog is the show's total formula for stories.

I agree with Rek, get the facts straight before getting the police involved. And if you can see the surveillance video in advance (Walmart folks might be nice if they see your brother's injuries) that would help too.
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
MisteR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands595 Posts
July 14 2010 02:02 GMT
#47
I'm just thinking... What if he meets those guys again? Will they beat him up? I doubt it'd be pretty.

I don't get how your brother would want to leave such a situation a possibility. Unless there's something fishy going on, there's no reason why the police shouldn't be involved. Safety is pretty important and that's where the cops are for.

Good luck and I hope you can make some progress, one way or the other.
Nal_Ra/Much/Horang2/Flying fighting!~
Tazza
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)1678 Posts
July 14 2010 02:27 GMT
#48
He's probably embarassed to tell anyone else he got beat up. This happens to many people and a reason why some refuse to tell the cops. I would make sure to call the cops and tell your brother its okay to feel that way. But you cannot let those guys go free. That would be serious injustice
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 02:39:40
July 14 2010 02:35 GMT
#49
It sounds like he's definitely hiding something, as you seemed to have guessed. It sounds more likely that he got involved in some scuffle (maybe started by him) and thus doesn't want it (the case/tape) to be reviewed.

What Tazza said (the notion that was written about in an essay called "collateral damage"; that people are embarrassed, especially boys because of cultural notions, to own up to being physically overpowered etc.) would not occur to most people over this kind of fight, especially if, as your brother seems to claim, that the girl hit him in the back of the head and then he was curbstomped by several guys. Basic psychology and common sense would disagree to that. Unless he was motherfucking Bruce Lee and was disappointed that he didn't manage to kick all of the wiggers in their chests before they did him in, it would be more common to feel anger and desire revenge because he was betrayed by the girl he "helped" in his explanation, and less "shame" because he was overpowered by several men instead of just one.

While Rekrul's suggestion might be a bit harsh, definitely try to find out the truth without pushing too hard. And most importantly, don't go off by yourself and try to settle stuff for your brother, because you may actually end up getting him in trouble if he started it.
Hey! Listen!
radar14
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1437 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 03:05:29
July 14 2010 03:04 GMT
#50
On July 14 2010 09:31 tonight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2010 09:13 radar14 wrote:
you should take your bro a doctor if he lost consciousness from head trauma.

He doesn't want to go because he doesn't have insurance, but he seems almost completely back to normal minus the nasty road rash on his face.


However unlikely, he could have an epidural hematoma, which can present with a lucid interval following head trauma and rapidly deteriorate into coma and death. Remember Natasha Richardson? Any patient who has loss of consciousness following head trauma would be CT scanned at any ER in the nation.
impatience is a virtue
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
July 14 2010 20:21 GMT
#51
I have decided to not press the issue because he is very determined, for whatever reason, to let it die. Thanks to everyone even though I sort of regret even writing anything personal involving my brother without his knowledge, but oh well
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
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