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boesthius
United States11637 Posts
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On July 14 2010 06:01 tonight wrote: I've been grilling him about it since I found out yesterday. Well, not grilling, but trying to find out what possible reason he'd have for not wanting to press charges. I thought maybe he hit that chick in the face after she hit him, but he said he didn't. He also said she was the first to throw a punch and after that he was jumped. Said he got in as many shots as he could before he blacked out. My brother is 24 also incase anyone was wondering. Probably an honor thing. Tell him to stop being selfish. Not reporting this shit and not having them face the consequences opens the window for this to happen to other people. If he has the proper opportunity to get these bastards, he should take it. There's no honor had in letting a group of asshats walk away like that. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On July 14 2010 06:30 SLTorak.Hobo wrote: I wont argue or nothing, but honestly all the cops will do in most cases is slap them on the wrist unless they have an extensive record already. Especially since there is 3-4 of them its easy to make up a story about how your brother started it ect, unless there is cameras or eye witnesses I have heard of people having these types of cases backfire on them really easily or they drop the charges because its a waste of time. Good luck though. read the OP, he states that there ARE cameras tonight, just keep trying to convince your brother to go to the cops. There's no real reason not to unless he's hiding something about how it actually all went down. | ||
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tonight
United States11130 Posts
Most likely I'll end up not going to the police by his request and just hoping this never happens again, but now I'll worry about it all the time with him and my other young brother. | ||
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mOnion
United States5657 Posts
On July 14 2010 06:30 SLTorak.Hobo wrote: I wont argue or nothing, but honestly all the cops will do in most cases is slap them on the wrist unless they have an extensive record already. Especially since there is 3-4 of them its easy to make up a story about how your brother started it ect, unless there is cameras or eye witnesses I have heard of people having these types of cases backfire on them really easily or they drop the charges because its a waste of time. Good luck though. I'm sure you think you know everything but how bout you lay off the "cops suck" bullshit these guys put their lives on the line every day to protect sniveling shits like you who dont appreciate ANYTHING they do. I hate the kind of people who dare say that they hate cops. officers are here to serve and protect, and you honestly think that 3 men will get away with assault and battery just because they band together? get real. anyway, tonight I know what I'd do in your shoes. I'd think about what i'd want my brother to do for me. go to the cops. prayin for ya man BTW tell your brother that he's a better man than most for even going over there in the first place. that's more than I would have done. GG | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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tonight
United States11130 Posts
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intrigue
Washington, D.C9934 Posts
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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
I'd probably just let it go. The dumbasses who did it will probably get theirs at one point or another if it becomes a recurring problem, which according to your brother, seems to be very likely considering their violent tendencies. But ultimately, sorry about your brother. I'd be pretty fucking pissed too if my brother got beat up for no good reason. | ||
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SLTorak.Hobo
Canada67 Posts
On July 14 2010 08:01 mOnion wrote: I'm sure you think you know everything but how bout you lay off the "cops suck" bullshit these guys put their lives on the line every day to protect sniveling shits like you who dont appreciate ANYTHING they do. I hate the kind of people who dare say that they hate cops. officers are here to serve and protect, and you honestly think that 3 men will get away with assault and battery just because they band together? get real. anyway, tonight I know what I'd do in your shoes. I'd think about what i'd want my brother to do for me. go to the cops. prayin for ya man BTW tell your brother that he's a better man than most for even going over there in the first place. that's more than I would have done. GG Oh fuck off with your attitude, cops do some good and they do a lot of bad as well, don't cry to me about how I appreciate them before you even know your shit. I have had interactions with cops and have known innocent people that made a report and attempted to charge people only to have it come down to who to believe and in most cases it goes no where. Yes sometimes charges get laid but I am not sure what you have heard, one assault charge isn't going to send you to jail, at most you will get a bit of probation and maybe some community service/restraining order( unless like I said before you have an extensive record). That is reality sorry to break it to you. Story is everything if there is footage he is fine but you obviously are pretty ignorant to how a case like that is pursued. EDIT: And no I am not saying his charges wouldn't go through, especially if there is footage but a lot of assault cases go no where or get dropped when there is no eye witnesses | ||
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polgas
Canada1761 Posts
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mOnion
United States5657 Posts
On July 14 2010 08:45 SLTorak.Hobo wrote: Oh fuck off with your attitude, cops do some good and they do a lot of bad as well, don't cry to me about how I appreciate them before you even know your shit. I have had interactions with cops and have known innocent people that made a report and attempted to charge people only to have it come down to who to believe and in most cases it goes no where. Yes sometimes charges get laid but I am not sure what you have heard, one assault charge isn't going to send you to jail, at most you will get a bit of probation and maybe some community service/restraining order( unless like I said before you have an extensive record). That is reality sorry to break it to you. Story is everything if there is footage he is fine but you obviously are pretty ignorant to how a case like that is pursued. EDIT: And no I am not saying his charges wouldn't go through, especially if there is footage but a lot of assault cases go no where or get dropped when there is no eye witnesses take your twisted view of reality and get out of here. just because you think you have it all figured out doesn't make you any better than the rest of us, it just makes you depressing. as if i'm the one with the attitude here. learn how to be a real human and don't give pessimistic pieces of advice to people dealing with serious issues. you don't even know that assault isn't physical. how smart do you think you are? | ||
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radar14
United States1437 Posts
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SLTorak.Hobo
Canada67 Posts
An assault is the intentional application of force, directly or indirectly, to another person without that person's consent. | ||
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tonight
United States11130 Posts
On July 14 2010 09:13 radar14 wrote: you should take your bro a doctor if he lost consciousness from head trauma. He doesn't want to go because he doesn't have insurance, but he seems almost completely back to normal minus the nasty road rash on his face. | ||
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Empyrean
16997 Posts
On July 14 2010 09:31 tonight wrote: He doesn't want to go because he doesn't have insurance, but he seems almost completely back to normal minus the nasty road rash on his face. Is he covered under your parents' policy? | ||
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tonight
United States11130 Posts
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mOnion
United States5657 Posts
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mmp
United States2130 Posts
That's aggravated assault and an easy felony with video evidence, visible/documented injuries, and witnesses -- enough to put them behind bars. Remember your bro is probably too scared to do any of this himself and probably just wants to forget the whole thing. But if his only crime was standing up for someone he thought was being abused then he doesn't deserve to live in a community with punks like these. Your brother was courageous enough to get the shit kicked out of him. Reward him with justice, or at least sue for damages. >> To the above cynicism about police integrity: Integrity improves when you offer them hard evidence and a clear case of right & wrong. Showing them photos of your brother's injuries could help bring them around also. | ||
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