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Kotick wants to move away from XBL/PSN and to PC

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Merikh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States918 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-05 18:14:46
July 05 2010 18:04 GMT
#1
Activision is "very aggressively" backing connectivity between gaming PCs and TVs - in a bid to drastically reduce the market share of Xbox Live and PSN.

Kotick claimed that "60 per cent" of Xbox Live subscribers "primarily" use the service for Call Of Duty, but that Activision "don't really participate financially in that income stream".

His aim is to encourage gamers to move away from PSN and Xbox Live and play online via gaming PCs - open platforms on which Activision could more easily manipulate payment models.

"We would really like to be able to provide much more value to those millions of players playing on Live, but it's not our network," Kotick told the FT.

He said that Activision wants to break Sony and Microsoft's "walled gardens" - XBL and PSN - "with new gamer-friendly PCs, designed to be plugged into the television".


Source: http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=254426

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udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
July 05 2010 18:06 GMT
#2
only reason is because he wants to create a subscription service which is most viable on the PC platforum
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Merikh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States918 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-05 18:11:06
July 05 2010 18:10 GMT
#3
On July 06 2010 03:06 udgnim wrote:
only reason is because he wants to create a subscription service which is most viable on the PC platforum


Naw, doubt it (As said in the article something along the lines of not liking subscription based blah blah). Micro Transactions is in right now.
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-05 18:11:29
July 05 2010 18:11 GMT
#4
"We would really like to be able to provide gather much more value to money from those millions of players playing on Live, but it's not our network," Kotick told the FT.

Fixed.

Well, whatever, I don't care about XBox and PS. But Kotick sure is greedy.
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Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
July 05 2010 18:12 GMT
#5
Wait, what's the difference between a "Gamer-friendly PC, designed to be plugged into the television" and a "Console". It seems activision just wants to make their own console. Although use mainstream hardware and save hundreds of millions in custom hardware.
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NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-05 18:14:08
July 05 2010 18:13 GMT
#6
On July 06 2010 03:11 spinesheath wrote:
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"We would really like to be able to provide gather much more value to money from those millions of players playing on Live, but it's not our network," Kotick told the FT.

Fixed.

Well, whatever, I don't care about XBox and PS. But Kotick sure is greedy.

Yep $$$
I recall an earlier quote saying "COD players are just begging for a subscription based game" I nearly shit myself..

Edit: Thedeadpixel on the show inside gaming quoted it.
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Merikh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States918 Posts
July 05 2010 18:13 GMT
#7
On July 06 2010 03:12 Phayze wrote:
Wait, what's the difference between a "Gamer-friendly PC, designed to be plugged into the television" and a "Console". It seems activision just wants to make their own console. Although use mainstream hardware and save hundreds of millions in custom hardware.


Basically, pc's that allow you to easily connect to a big screen with all the proper cables most likely. Sounds like it though.
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Ndugu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1078 Posts
July 05 2010 18:14 GMT
#8
This actually makes a lot of sense. I've never really thought about it.

Microsoft is basically charging a subscription, MMO-style, to play other people's games. Particularly games in the Call of Duty series.
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
July 05 2010 18:17 GMT
#9
On July 06 2010 03:12 Phayze wrote:
Wait, what's the difference between a "Gamer-friendly PC, designed to be plugged into the television" and a "Console". It seems activision just wants to make their own console. Although use mainstream hardware and save hundreds of millions in custom hardware.


They don't want to make their own console. What they want to do is find a cheap way to get people off of consoles (probably by encouraging people to buy console-type controllers that plug into a USB port on your computer, hooked in with some TV-out or something) and onto the computer.
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mucker
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1120 Posts
July 05 2010 18:35 GMT
#10
On July 06 2010 03:17 Mortality wrote:
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On July 06 2010 03:12 Phayze wrote:
Wait, what's the difference between a "Gamer-friendly PC, designed to be plugged into the television" and a "Console". It seems activision just wants to make their own console. Although use mainstream hardware and save hundreds of millions in custom hardware.


They don't want to make their own console. What they want to do is find a cheap way to get people off of consoles (probably by encouraging people to buy console-type controllers that plug into a USB port on your computer, hooked in with some TV-out or something) and onto the computer.


Or just force Microsoft into an revenue sharing agreement.
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GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
July 05 2010 18:36 GMT
#11
I feel that this is just a way for them to get more money. Leave it the way it is!
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
July 05 2010 18:57 GMT
#12

He said that Activision wants to break Sony and Microsoft's "walled gardens" - XBL and PSN - "with new gamer-friendly PCs, designed to be plugged into the television".


"gamer-friendly PCs"?

wtf is this nonsense
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n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
July 05 2010 19:08 GMT
#13
On July 06 2010 03:57 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +

He said that Activision wants to break Sony and Microsoft's "walled gardens" - XBL and PSN - "with new gamer-friendly PCs, designed to be plugged into the television".


"gamer-friendly PCs"?

wtf is this nonsense

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MetalMarine
Profile Joined June 2007
United States1559 Posts
July 05 2010 19:13 GMT
#14
LOL Kotick is funny. He really thinks he can manipulate gamers to switch to pc if they're already happy with their xbox live and PSN? hahahah PFFFT
hoborg
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States430 Posts
July 05 2010 19:44 GMT
#15
On July 06 2010 03:57 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +

He said that Activision wants to break Sony and Microsoft's "walled gardens" - XBL and PSN - "with new gamer-friendly PCs, designed to be plugged into the television".


"gamer-friendly PCs"?

wtf is this nonsense


Gamer-friendly PCs can be plugged directly into the television - the place where real gamers do their gaming. They also won't confuse gamers with free access to things like "the internet" and all that techno mumbo jumbo, instead they will provide exclusive targeted content through a flexible subscription-based format.
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Skee
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada702 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-05 19:46:42
July 05 2010 19:46 GMT
#16
WTF is a console? Are those the terrible paper weights that are way overpriced I see at the game retailers where I go to buy my PC games?
Mickey
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2606 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-19 20:27:02
July 05 2010 19:49 GMT
#17
I now know what true evil is.

[Mod Edit - death threat removed]

User was warned for this post.

Mickey edit: I was being sarcastic but warning was justified I guess.
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
July 05 2010 20:41 GMT
#18
On July 06 2010 04:13 MetalMarine wrote:
LOL Kotick is funny. He really thinks he can manipulate gamers to switch to pc if they're already happy with their xbox live and PSN? hahahah PFFFT

This gets even funnier if you picture a console gamer stepping in front of a PC and start playing... It's like dropping a bunny in a lion pit rofl
ViRo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States137 Posts
July 05 2010 21:03 GMT
#19
Lol. Bobby is at it again, though no one didn't see this coming. Making their own content delivery system for the PC would make sense, if they could get players on to it in the first place. Generally when I think of "content delivery on PC" my mind drifts over to steam first. Activision good luck with this one.
The back door was open.....so.....
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-05 21:37:54
July 05 2010 21:35 GMT
#20
I see a lot of problems with this.
1. Not all computers have HDMI ports. Normally these are only found on expensive video cards, which most gamers won't be able to afford (If they have to mow lawns all summer to get an xbox, or beg mommy and daddy, then how can they get a $700 gaming rig?)

2. There is going to be a lot of competition between Activision trying to get people into decent computer and then rip them off on software, and OEM computer manufacturers which will be doing the same old bullshit and continuing to rip off customers who know nothing about computer hardware.

3. Activision will lose this because the OEM's already have a large established base of customers, and also people are resistant to change. They probably don't have the technical know-how/ will refuse to learn WHY they should buy a better computer, and instead will see it in terms of "Xbox is $199, Gaming PC is $699"
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