• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 02:03
CET 08:03
KST 16:03
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)8Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns6[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 103SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1822Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises3
StarCraft 2
General
Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) WardiTV Winter Cup WardiTV Mondays SC2 AI Tournament 2026 OSC Season 13 World Championship
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution
Brood War
General
Potential ASL qualifier breakthroughs? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ I would like to say something about StarCraft BW General Discussion StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 SLON Grand Finals – Season 2
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Mechabellum Beyond All Reason Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Psychological Factors That D…
TrAiDoS
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1861 users

Kotick wants to move away from XBL/PSN and to PC

Blogs > Merikh
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
Merikh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States918 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-05 18:14:46
July 05 2010 18:04 GMT
#1
Activision is "very aggressively" backing connectivity between gaming PCs and TVs - in a bid to drastically reduce the market share of Xbox Live and PSN.

Kotick claimed that "60 per cent" of Xbox Live subscribers "primarily" use the service for Call Of Duty, but that Activision "don't really participate financially in that income stream".

His aim is to encourage gamers to move away from PSN and Xbox Live and play online via gaming PCs - open platforms on which Activision could more easily manipulate payment models.

"We would really like to be able to provide much more value to those millions of players playing on Live, but it's not our network," Kotick told the FT.

He said that Activision wants to break Sony and Microsoft's "walled gardens" - XBL and PSN - "with new gamer-friendly PCs, designed to be plugged into the television".


Source: http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=254426

Rate and Discuss!

*
G4MR | I mod day9, djwheat and GLHF's stream
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
July 05 2010 18:06 GMT
#2
only reason is because he wants to create a subscription service which is most viable on the PC platforum
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Merikh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States918 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-05 18:11:06
July 05 2010 18:10 GMT
#3
On July 06 2010 03:06 udgnim wrote:
only reason is because he wants to create a subscription service which is most viable on the PC platforum


Naw, doubt it (As said in the article something along the lines of not liking subscription based blah blah). Micro Transactions is in right now.
G4MR | I mod day9, djwheat and GLHF's stream
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-05 18:11:29
July 05 2010 18:11 GMT
#4
"We would really like to be able to provide gather much more value to money from those millions of players playing on Live, but it's not our network," Kotick told the FT.

Fixed.

Well, whatever, I don't care about XBox and PS. But Kotick sure is greedy.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
July 05 2010 18:12 GMT
#5
Wait, what's the difference between a "Gamer-friendly PC, designed to be plugged into the television" and a "Console". It seems activision just wants to make their own console. Although use mainstream hardware and save hundreds of millions in custom hardware.
Proud member of the LGA-1366 Core-i7 4Ghz Club
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-05 18:14:08
July 05 2010 18:13 GMT
#6
On July 06 2010 03:11 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
"We would really like to be able to provide gather much more value to money from those millions of players playing on Live, but it's not our network," Kotick told the FT.

Fixed.

Well, whatever, I don't care about XBox and PS. But Kotick sure is greedy.

Yep $$$
I recall an earlier quote saying "COD players are just begging for a subscription based game" I nearly shit myself..

Edit: Thedeadpixel on the show inside gaming quoted it.
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
Merikh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States918 Posts
July 05 2010 18:13 GMT
#7
On July 06 2010 03:12 Phayze wrote:
Wait, what's the difference between a "Gamer-friendly PC, designed to be plugged into the television" and a "Console". It seems activision just wants to make their own console. Although use mainstream hardware and save hundreds of millions in custom hardware.


Basically, pc's that allow you to easily connect to a big screen with all the proper cables most likely. Sounds like it though.
G4MR | I mod day9, djwheat and GLHF's stream
Ndugu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1078 Posts
July 05 2010 18:14 GMT
#8
This actually makes a lot of sense. I've never really thought about it.

Microsoft is basically charging a subscription, MMO-style, to play other people's games. Particularly games in the Call of Duty series.
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
July 05 2010 18:17 GMT
#9
On July 06 2010 03:12 Phayze wrote:
Wait, what's the difference between a "Gamer-friendly PC, designed to be plugged into the television" and a "Console". It seems activision just wants to make their own console. Although use mainstream hardware and save hundreds of millions in custom hardware.


They don't want to make their own console. What they want to do is find a cheap way to get people off of consoles (probably by encouraging people to buy console-type controllers that plug into a USB port on your computer, hooked in with some TV-out or something) and onto the computer.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
mucker
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1120 Posts
July 05 2010 18:35 GMT
#10
On July 06 2010 03:17 Mortality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2010 03:12 Phayze wrote:
Wait, what's the difference between a "Gamer-friendly PC, designed to be plugged into the television" and a "Console". It seems activision just wants to make their own console. Although use mainstream hardware and save hundreds of millions in custom hardware.


They don't want to make their own console. What they want to do is find a cheap way to get people off of consoles (probably by encouraging people to buy console-type controllers that plug into a USB port on your computer, hooked in with some TV-out or something) and onto the computer.


Or just force Microsoft into an revenue sharing agreement.
It's supposed to be automatic but actually you have to press this button.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
July 05 2010 18:36 GMT
#11
I feel that this is just a way for them to get more money. Leave it the way it is!
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
July 05 2010 18:57 GMT
#12

He said that Activision wants to break Sony and Microsoft's "walled gardens" - XBL and PSN - "with new gamer-friendly PCs, designed to be plugged into the television".


"gamer-friendly PCs"?

wtf is this nonsense
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
July 05 2010 19:08 GMT
#13
On July 06 2010 03:57 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +

He said that Activision wants to break Sony and Microsoft's "walled gardens" - XBL and PSN - "with new gamer-friendly PCs, designed to be plugged into the television".


"gamer-friendly PCs"?

wtf is this nonsense

Not Apples? Oh hehe haha hooo... Jokes aside it makes me sick to think this company is partnered with Blizzard. It makes me feel dirty for buying sc2
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
MetalMarine
Profile Joined June 2007
United States1559 Posts
July 05 2010 19:13 GMT
#14
LOL Kotick is funny. He really thinks he can manipulate gamers to switch to pc if they're already happy with their xbox live and PSN? hahahah PFFFT
hoborg
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States430 Posts
July 05 2010 19:44 GMT
#15
On July 06 2010 03:57 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +

He said that Activision wants to break Sony and Microsoft's "walled gardens" - XBL and PSN - "with new gamer-friendly PCs, designed to be plugged into the television".


"gamer-friendly PCs"?

wtf is this nonsense


Gamer-friendly PCs can be plugged directly into the television - the place where real gamers do their gaming. They also won't confuse gamers with free access to things like "the internet" and all that techno mumbo jumbo, instead they will provide exclusive targeted content through a flexible subscription-based format.
blbl | CJ and ACE fighting!
Skee
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada702 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-05 19:46:42
July 05 2010 19:46 GMT
#16
WTF is a console? Are those the terrible paper weights that are way overpriced I see at the game retailers where I go to buy my PC games?
Mickey
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2606 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-19 20:27:02
July 05 2010 19:49 GMT
#17
I now know what true evil is.

[Mod Edit - death threat removed]

User was warned for this post.

Mickey edit: I was being sarcastic but warning was justified I guess.
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
July 05 2010 20:41 GMT
#18
On July 06 2010 04:13 MetalMarine wrote:
LOL Kotick is funny. He really thinks he can manipulate gamers to switch to pc if they're already happy with their xbox live and PSN? hahahah PFFFT

This gets even funnier if you picture a console gamer stepping in front of a PC and start playing... It's like dropping a bunny in a lion pit rofl
ViRo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States137 Posts
July 05 2010 21:03 GMT
#19
Lol. Bobby is at it again, though no one didn't see this coming. Making their own content delivery system for the PC would make sense, if they could get players on to it in the first place. Generally when I think of "content delivery on PC" my mind drifts over to steam first. Activision good luck with this one.
The back door was open.....so.....
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-05 21:37:54
July 05 2010 21:35 GMT
#20
I see a lot of problems with this.
1. Not all computers have HDMI ports. Normally these are only found on expensive video cards, which most gamers won't be able to afford (If they have to mow lawns all summer to get an xbox, or beg mommy and daddy, then how can they get a $700 gaming rig?)

2. There is going to be a lot of competition between Activision trying to get people into decent computer and then rip them off on software, and OEM computer manufacturers which will be doing the same old bullshit and continuing to rip off customers who know nothing about computer hardware.

3. Activision will lose this because the OEM's already have a large established base of customers, and also people are resistant to change. They probably don't have the technical know-how/ will refuse to learn WHY they should buy a better computer, and instead will see it in terms of "Xbox is $199, Gaming PC is $699"
U Gotta Skate.
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
AI Arena Tournament
20:00
Swiss - Round 1
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft691
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 6247
Zeus 326
Shuttle 118
Larva 88
Sexy 45
Noble 23
Sacsri 22
Bale 17
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm496
League of Legends
JimRising 769
Counter-Strike
summit1g8972
m0e_tv552
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King127
Other Games
Sick142
RuFF_SC2113
minikerr88
Liquid`Ken12
ViBE5
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick46558
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 126
Other Games
BasetradeTV51
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH131
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift5966
• Scarra1995
• Lourlo1084
• Stunt470
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Invitational
5h 57m
ByuN vs Percival
Percival vs Rogue
Percival vs Classic
ByuN vs Classic
ByuN vs Rogue
Classic vs Rogue
IPSL
12h 57m
DragOn vs Sziky
Replay Cast
1d 1h
Wardi Open
1d 4h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 9h
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
All Star Teams
5 days
INnoVation vs soO
sOs vs Scarlett
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
[ Show More ]
All Star Teams
6 days
MMA vs DongRaeGu
Rogue vs Oliveira
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-10
Big Gabe Cup #3
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W4
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Nations Cup 2026
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.