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d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
July 05 2010 21:50 GMT
#21
I wasn't aware charging people more for the same game if not an even worse version of the game was giving them more value...
Hi.
eLiE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1039 Posts
July 05 2010 22:01 GMT
#22
god, pc games are not supposed to have subscriptions to play, and he's definitely saying he wants to get off live so he can make subscription plans that make him the dough. that's fine for wow, due to the nature of the game, but i don't care if they give me some crappy map pack or achievement skins or pictures for my shooter. and i know starcraft is safe from subscriptions, but i'm afraid the same will not be true for diablo.
How's the weather down there?
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
July 05 2010 22:54 GMT
#23
what a greedy fuck...

besides, PSN is already free anyways
beep boop
JohannesH
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1364 Posts
July 05 2010 23:53 GMT
#24
Well as a CEO of any company you're kinda expected to be greedy... So what if he promotes computer over console. He might be a prick but so far I see no wrong here.
If you have to ask, you don't know.
LaSt)ChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States2179 Posts
July 07 2010 20:59 GMT
#25
On July 06 2010 07:01 eLiE wrote:
god, pc games are not supposed to have subscriptions to play


sorry, i didn't see that specified in the eula for any of my hardware or games when i purchased them, it's also not part of my AT&T contract, or in the bill of rights

companies can put subscriptions on almost anything, and if the game is worth it - we will pay for it
zZygote
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada898 Posts
July 07 2010 22:45 GMT
#26
My thoughts:

F*** OFF KOTICK, GO BACK TO YOUR 12 YEAR OLD MONOPOLY, THE INTERNETZ ARE BELONG TO US.

That cash grabbing goof just wants more $$$, AND our personal information. As if removing 'anonymity' will forge a more 'secure and constructive' community on Blizzard forums. BULLS***!

I was a sucker for buying the stupid map pack on MW2, what makes him think were gonna fall for his other antics on the PC? Sorry, but I'll keep my wallet zipped up until they Blizzard has a better direction other than heading straight to Hell.
Snausages
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States529 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-16 22:28:58
July 16 2010 22:26 GMT
#27
bumping this thread cuz I found this article

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/110/1106732p1.html

Analyst - Activision Must Begin Multiplayer Fees
Publishers must find a way to profit off online multiplayer, says Pachter.
July 16, 2010
by Jim Reilly

If the videogame industry is going to rebound from its decline in software sales, publishers will need to look at monetizing online multiplayer, said Wedbush Morgan analyst Michael Pachter in his latest investor report.

Pachter believes one of the main reasons software sales for PS3 and Xbox 360 are down year-over-year is due to gamers continuing to log substantial hours into a handful of online games and not picking up new titles regularly.

"We estimate that a total of 12 million consumers are playing Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 for an average of 10 hours per week on the two platforms' respective networks, and the continued enjoyment of this game (along with an estimated 6 million Halo online players, 3 million EA Sports players, and 5 million players playing other games, such as Battlefield, Red Dead Redemption, Left 4 Dead and Grand Theft Auto) has sucked the available time away from what otherwise would be spent playing newly purchased games," he said.

Pachter also noted that Activision needs to make the first move with multiplayer charges, and expects we could see something with Call of Duty: Black Ops, set for release this November.

"We think that it is incumbent upon Activision, with the most popular multiplayer game, to take the first step to address monetization of multiplayer," said Pachter. "It is too early to tell whether that will be a monthly subscription, tournament entry fees, microtransaction fees, or a combination of all three, but we expect to see the company take some action by year-end, when Call of Duty Black Ops launches."

Pachter says he expects the publisher will apply a World of Warcraft-like business model to its Call of Duty franchise. Activision will likely continue to offer some form a free multiplayer for awhile, he says, but notes that it's imperative the company capitalizes on the estimated 4 billion hours of time spent online since the launch of Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 on Xbox Live and PlayStation Network.

"We are quick to point out that the average single player game has an expected play time of under 30 hours, suggesting that a staggering 133 million units of equivalent game play have been spent (so far) playing Call of Duty online, with Activision only seeing revenues from the original 20 million units sold, plus an estimated 8 million map packs sold," he added.

Activision hasn't been shy in the past about its intentions for some of its key franchises. The publisher has said several times it's looking at new online business models for Call of Duty and Guitar Hero.

In a recent interview, Activision CEO Bobby Kotick also made his displeasure known over closed online networks such as Xbox Live.

"We've heard that 60 per cent of [Microsoft's] subscribers are principally on Live because of Call of Duty," said Kotick. "We don't really participate financially in that income stream. We would really like to be able to provide much more value to those millions of players playing on Live, but it's not our network."


this analyst guy is a fucking idiot, hahaha
"millions of people play COD for hours on end each day, so we must charge them for it! that should save the industry for certain!"
if Activision does monetize multiplayer with their new game, I hope it fails miserably
teaaaaaaaa
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