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NukeTheStars
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States278 Posts
June 22 2010 06:32 GMT
#1
Now is that a fun blog title for this site, or what?

I guess it's time to explain myself - I dislike strategy games. You can count on one hand the number of chess matches I've won in my lifetime. And by that, I mean you can just close all of your fingers into a fist, because I've never won a single game of chess. Every time the urge hits to test my skill in that particular future olympic sport, you can bet some pieces will be getting a verbal thrashing. "You're a horse that moves in an L, for god's sake... and you couldn't get me a freakin' checkmate?"

When it comes to RTS games, my first was Command and Conquer: Generals. I never played online, but I did have quite a bit of fun with the single player campaign. The game didn't involve much strategy, so it rarely put me off like other games of the genre did. I just saw it as stupid fun. One "unit" was an angry mob. How awesome is that? Needless to say, I never gave Starcraft the time of day. Ancient RTS with prerendered sprites and tiny resolution? Screw that.

Flash forward to 2007 or so. I'm listening to the podcast about retro video games. This episode was about Starcraft, and all of the participants in the cast were veterans in the gaming scene. I couldn't get over all the gushing about this game, but the thing that interested me the most was the mention of a huge Korean fervor for it. Remember when you first heard about or saw first-hand the Korean esports scene? It's something so bizarre as to be almost otherworldly.

I started looking a bit more into Starcraft after the cast. Watched a few games, read a few articles. Before too long, it was obvious this monstrosity was too fascinating to be ignored. I started watching matches on a regular basis. Boxer versus anyone. Soon enough, the glowing, beautiful Battle Chest popped out of the store shelf and screamed "BUY ME!" I couldn't resist the siren's song.

The first impression was horrifying. The viewing space was so constrained, the action was much much faster than Generals, and it was just really hard to keep up. My hatred for the genre started to bubble up again. But, there was also this new connection to the pro scene. It wasn't going to dissipate just because I sucked at the game. I kept watching and playing, watching and playing.

The turning point is still very vivid in my mind.

The game was a ZvT with me as the Z. It must have been at least 40 minutes long. Drops, huge engagements, the entire tech tree, this game had it all. The whole match, with its dozens of moments, was wrapped up by a single decision from me. I got those production buildings, just as I had planned to, and he had no way to get back, so he left. No GG from either of us, but I didn't need it. I knew it was a good game. I stayed toe-to-toe and outsmarted the guy. That win was more satisfying than any headshot in any FPS... way more. That's when I understood the value of the genre, and when I learned to love the game.

So, now here I am. Starcraft commentator and player of a genre of game I used to hate. The experience also made me re-examine a little game called Chrono Trigger. Always hated RPGs, tried Chrono Trigger on emulator and was not amused. But, I grinded my teeth and plunked down the cash for the DS version. Like Starcraft, it was like taking medicine at first. Also like Starcraft, it's now one of my favorite games ever.

Things you never thought you liked can easily turn into your most valuable experiences. This lesson hasn't only applied to video games for me.. but I won't get into that here. Take your medicine, kids! Eat your veggies and stay in school! :D

-Nuke


*****
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
June 22 2010 06:40 GMT
#2
Welcome aboard captain! Take the wheel!
Together but separate, like oatmeal
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
June 22 2010 06:42 GMT
#3
Me too!.
Seeing the pro scene in Korea really made me suck it up and persist with it.
Watched a bunch of Boxer vids, FBH and now gay or Stork.

Good stuff with the commentaries =].
GG
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-22 06:47:56
June 22 2010 06:47 GMT
#4
NuketheStars is a god among men! Your hype videos are unparalleled and you're the only good BW commentator left.

Nukanite (what the hell does this even mean though!?) for life!
Retvrn to Forvms
Polar_Nada
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1548 Posts
June 22 2010 06:48 GMT
#5
hahah yeahhh the pro scene was what really got me into starcraft as well
[ReD]NaDa and fnaticMSI.SEn fighting~! ::POlar @ UC Irvine::
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
June 22 2010 06:55 GMT
#6
Great blog. 5/5 =) Loved the opening about counting games won in chess. lol
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
June 22 2010 07:16 GMT
#7
Interesting to see how different people come to love the game. I loved it the very first time I saw it and the memory is burned into my mind.
-Kato-
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain1146 Posts
June 22 2010 07:26 GMT
#8
Nukenite 4 ever!

Nuke as soon as I see new videos from you in youtube I download them into my ipod and watch them as soon as I can, if I'm walking through the city i'll maybe just put the video on just so I can hear whats going on, and ill stop when you get excited to watch whats happening!

I started sc when i watched in youtube the Boxer 3x bunker rush.

Will you keep commentating if the next OSL is SC2?
jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
June 22 2010 07:27 GMT
#9
lol i started RTS with age of empires 1, when i was like 5 lol, my dad had me play but i ended up begging for the cheat codes : )

photonman, which i thought was photo man lolol
and big daddy XD
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
June 22 2010 07:36 GMT
#10
Nukanite signing in. Thanks for all your work Nuke.



But we want more Learning and Fun with Bork!
Bigpon86
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States238 Posts
June 22 2010 08:20 GMT
#11
Ah, we are like polar oposites. I started playing rts games since like warcraft 1 in 1994 haha. I started playing starcraft since the day it came out and havent gone 6 months without playing it since. I did only learn about the pro scene around 2007 though(thanks to youtube). I think youtube really helped the foreign sc scene!
This is my quote.
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2605 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-22 08:22:46
June 22 2010 08:21 GMT
#12
/respect
I started liking SC:BW after watching some commentaries. end of story : S

Edit: the game was Flash v Jaedong GOMTV MSL on Zodiac. omg. awesomeness.
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
heynes
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany201 Posts
June 22 2010 09:50 GMT
#13
there was an bbc documentary about the korean pro scene, they covered Xellos´s wcg run i think.

Anyways after that docu i kept playing / watching for years, the pro-scene really helps you to keep going and not wanna change games also
exeexe
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark937 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-22 10:37:08
June 22 2010 10:36 GMT
#14
On June 22 2010 15:32 NukeTheStars wrote:
the entire tech tree


Did you get nuked?
And never forget, its always easier to throw a bomb downstairs than up. - George Orwell
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
June 22 2010 10:42 GMT
#15
StarCraft rules! Chrono Trigger rules!
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
June 22 2010 10:48 GMT
#16
Interesting read.
My first RTS was C&C: Red Alert. It was pretty fun, and I liked most of the early C&C series. A few months ago, my friend had me buy SC. At first I found it to be just another RTS(I lost my first game on a fastest because I didn't understand that I had to mass rax/fac/port built, thanks to C&C), but after finishing the campaign and discovering the proscene I realized that it was a really good game.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
scrdmnttr
Profile Joined May 2010
United States96 Posts
June 22 2010 10:52 GMT
#17
Really nice blog.
It's funny, I too remember the time I bought Starcraft, and many of my first online games. ^^

I've never been able to convince any of my friends (or my nerdy wife for that matter) to play starcraft. The reason, I think, is like the OP is saying, there is a huge learning curve to starcraft. Just take a moment and reflect on how much you know about starcraft. Build orders, unit compositions, economic strategies, cheeses, building placements, hotkeys, etc etc.

When playing the practice league in sc2, I couldn't help but think that that is not enough for brand new players (ie "Wtf is supply?")

I remember incontrol saying that if even some of the best starcraft players stop playing for awhile, their game is drastically worsened. Just like chess (which I also love) starcraft requires dedication to remain a quality player. But, like many of the things that require a lot of work, starcraft is definitely worth it in the end.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
June 22 2010 11:00 GMT
#18
I remember when i first started playing Sc back in ..2005? it hink but i remember waaay earlier than that i saw some videos of it and thought "wow this is the dumbest fucking game ive ever seen" and absolutely laughed at its trash graphics and how retarded everything looked

flashforward to 2005, me and some friends got into it(we were all terrible) and then everything i thought went away and i realised

This is the greatest game ever made
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
alexpnd
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1857 Posts
June 22 2010 12:01 GMT
#19
Hurray for Nuke! Lol. I started with SC. I was roughly 10 years of age. My dad was a software guy and had a network in my basement, so we could play 2 v 2 over LAN. It wasn't udp back then it was the other one (I forget). We also played over the phone line against my best buddy and his brother. We would FREAK OUT when my mom picked up the phone to call someone! Our precious connection LOL. All in all I'm still no good at it, but its been hella a fun. Ive typically avoided the newer games including sc2, although that may change.
www.brainyweb.ca //web stuff!
mapthesoul
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Trinidad/Tobago429 Posts
June 22 2010 12:15 GMT
#20
Nuke, are you gonna post a pic of yourself sometime?
I'm a big fan and I've always wondered how you look. : P
TaaiJoeng
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Hong Kong164 Posts
June 22 2010 12:27 GMT
#21
Awesome blog dude. I'll definitely check out your videos.
...but the parasites say NO!
Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
June 22 2010 12:36 GMT
#22
I love your commentaries!!
FiBsTeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States415 Posts
June 22 2010 15:24 GMT
#23
Ahahaha brilliant ending. 5/5
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
June 22 2010 15:56 GMT
#24
i was the same way
i played like a month and hated it. it wasnt until an "epic" game i played vs. my friend on BGH that lasted 50 min.s of me using ghost/tank/wraiths vs all carriers. i won and ti was an ugly game but i soon fell in love with BW after that game lol
Forever Young
ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
June 22 2010 15:58 GMT
#25
jazz music!
Each day gets better : )
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
June 22 2010 16:13 GMT
#26
Where's the pic you promised of you smoking a pipe while listening to Jazz??

You must commentate all of Bisu's games tonight! Bias FTW!
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
June 22 2010 17:30 GMT
#27
Maybe it's just me, but I find it hard to believe you couldn't get into Chrono Trigger until the DS version. Just bought the DS version and everything is renamed and it is horribly disorienting.

And Frog doesn't speak in ye olde English. :/
Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3456 Posts
June 22 2010 17:35 GMT
#28
Back before Brood War,
I clicked an evo chamber.
Melee, range, armor?

It was that moment
That's when I realized something:
Starcraft is the best.
A build is not a guess, an estimation or a hunch, a feeling, or a foolish intuition. A build is a dependable, unwavering, unarguably accurate, portrayer of your ambition.
Probe-Ability
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands8 Posts
June 22 2010 21:02 GMT
#29
On June 22 2010 21:15 mapthesoul wrote:
Nuke, are you gonna post a pic of yourself sometime?
I'm a big fan and I've always wondered how you look. : P


He was in one of his own hype videos a while ago. Too bad that you missed that.
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
June 22 2010 21:04 GMT
#30
<3 you Nuke!
Hydra dance FTW!
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NukeTheStars
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States278 Posts
June 23 2010 00:21 GMT
#31
On June 23 2010 02:30 zer0das wrote:
Maybe it's just me, but I find it hard to believe you couldn't get into Chrono Trigger until the DS version. Just bought the DS version and everything is renamed and it is horribly disorienting.

And Frog doesn't speak in ye olde English. :/


I didn't play it back in the day, so I didn't have any memories to taint. The DS version is crisp, beautiful, the sound and music are superb, even the anime cutscenes are there. I love it.

And a poster here is right! I have been in one of my hype videos. But you'll never see my face. I'm saving that for the series finale of the NukeTheStars channel.
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
June 23 2010 01:26 GMT
#32
On June 23 2010 09:21 NukeTheStars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2010 02:30 zer0das wrote:
Maybe it's just me, but I find it hard to believe you couldn't get into Chrono Trigger until the DS version. Just bought the DS version and everything is renamed and it is horribly disorienting.

And Frog doesn't speak in ye olde English. :/


I didn't play it back in the day, so I didn't have any memories to taint. The DS version is crisp, beautiful, the sound and music are superb, even the anime cutscenes are there. I love it.

And a poster here is right! I have been in one of my hype videos. But you'll never see my face. I'm saving that for the series finale of the NukeTheStars channel.


NukeTheStars will have a series finale?!?! ^14

Side note: Sick blog, 5/5
-Kato-
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain1146 Posts
June 23 2010 07:11 GMT
#33
If seeing a pic of you means the end of your channel I don't want to see your face ever, ever, don't even try showing it.
p14c
Profile Joined May 2010
Vatican City State431 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-26 15:33:30
June 26 2010 15:32 GMT
#34
This is your problem. You started by playing C&C: Generals which is a shitty game. I started with Dune 2 and Warcraft I never liked C&C. Starcraft I've played since it first appeared in 1998. Starcraft, Quake 3 and Diablo 2 all day long!
Game Over, Man! Game Over!
Carga
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands58 Posts
June 26 2010 15:57 GMT
#35
wow really amazing blog! It was intresting to read because it looked like a magazine story lol
EnTaroAdun411
Profile Joined March 2010
Philippines106 Posts
June 26 2010 16:20 GMT
#36
This post made me look back 12 years ago, to 1998. I was a freshman in my first college, and my classmate pulled me (and a few more) into a computer shop and he introduced us to SCBW. He taught us Terran and at first I didn't get any of it. A few more games in the coming days and I experimented with Protoss and I didn't like Protoss because except for the probe and observer, all units were 2 or more psi to create. So I went back to playing Terran. But I didn't get to play much because I didn't have my own computer at home. (Our first computer was a 486DX 33Mhz with a 340MB hard drive!! Yes, you read right, 33 friggin' megahertz and 340 megabyte hard drive!!)

After a few months and lots of prodding, my dad bought us a new computer. It was a Pentium 2-333Mhz with 64MB RAM and a 4GB hard drive, and that's when I really got to learning SCBW. I played through the campaigns and played against the AI and really learned all the races. And we got a 56kbps modem and played with my friends modem to modem. (I also played NBA Live '99 and Diablo II via modem to modem!)

Now though, I've only been playing with my cousins over LAN and several friends over GArena.

Twelve years on, I'm still playing the game that I really didn't like at first. And I guess, like many of you here, I will never get tired of Brood War.
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