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So, out of pure boredom, I decided to make a short list of the best games I played in my life. If you didn't have a chance to play some of them, I strongly advise you to give it a shot.
FPS:
Star Wars: Jedi Knight II - Jedi Outcast
I'm not really sure if it can really be called FPS, since later on you're mostly running in TPP. Regardless, this is such an outstanding game (without equal really) that I just had to put it here.
It's very nicely thought out, the storyline is good, the gameplay is superb and it requires so much skill and thought (even in single player) that it's mindblowing. Recently I've reinstalled it to feel the thrill again and I have absolutely no idea how did I beat it before on Jedi Master difficulty level as I wasn't able to pass the first level on it this time...
RPG:
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
As I am an avid RPG gamer, this was a really tough call between this, Planescape: Torment, Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic and Fallout. Finally, I have decided that Morrowind should take this slot, as the potential it has, the incredibly immersive atmosphere it creates and the amount of freedom it offers is really unparalleled.
As I didn't get the map with my copy of the game and had to discover everything from the ground up, which really enhanced the 'arriving into a new world' feeling for me and left great memories (ah, the first time I've heard about Morag Tong and the sleepless night I spent trying to find them and join this organization...) that I shall cherish for quite a time.
MMO:
Guild Wars
What can I say. This is the MMO I played the longest (not counting MUDs which I'm still playing after 13+ years) and which really got me. Perhaps it lacks the appeal of uber items, uber grinding and some endgame stuff like most modern MMOs, but it has many things to offer still. Not only it is free to play, I really like how low the maximum character level is, how fast the gameplay is (not the storyline though, the main storyline quests are very long and very cool), I love lack of open world there (which rids you of many annoyances) and how focused on PvP it is.
The story is great, the graphics are beautiful (with very low requirements) and I simply love it.
TBS:
Civilization IV: Beyond the Sword
Not going to write much about it. Just read the "[Civ4]Succession game" threads around here to see how awesome it is.
RTS:
Company of Heroes
I don't even know where to start on this one... It has some absolutely fantastic features, like points that give you resources that need to be captured and can be re-captured. Victory points that also have to be captured so turtling from the start is not really an option. Several 'leader traits' to choose from which change the way each army can be played and let you adjust better to the situation on the battlefield. How the first tank that rolls out can REALLY make an impact (and how freaking cool it looks when it runs through a wall and scares the bejesus out of the enemy). How artillery works. How you can destroy most of the terrain.
I just love it...
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SPORTS:
Colin MacRae Rally (not necessarily part 4, but definitely not part 3)
I'm not really into sports games, but this one has to take the cake. The sheer awesomeness of the sport and skill required to play this game, along with various multiplayer options make it one of the most enjoyable games ever.
HACK 'N SLASH:
Diablo
The king of H&S games, period. Hellfire expansion sucked (as it was made by different people) and D2 sucked even more.
What can I say... They just don't make the games like they used to.
I think this concludes my short list. Perhaps I will add something later.
  
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Wait did you just said that CoH is better than broodwar on the most hardcore sc community on the internets? D:
(oh and dawn of war 2 is better than coh)
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RTS: STARCRAFT
But yea, played most of these games and they are all great games. So pumped up about the new star wars game, the trailer was amazing! I think it was even a topic about it here @ TL.
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There really is no 'strategy' in CoH. It's pretty much 100% tactics...
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I would certainly not consider Diablo a hack and slash with such a deep loot system and RPG elements.
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On June 20 2010 14:16 Skvid wrote:
Wait did you just said that CoH is better than broodwar on the most hardcore sc community on the internets?
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On June 20 2010 14:16 Skvid wrote:
Wait did you just said that CoH is better than broodwar on the most hardcore sc community on the internets? D:
(oh and dawn of war 2 is better than coh)
So? I've been a part of this community for years now, I like SC a lot, it's a great game but it's not the best. It has the best community in form of TL.net, the best events with coverage and stuff like that, but the game itself is far from being the best. It's people and events around it that make Broodwar great.
And don't ditch CoH so easily, there used to be some people around here that switched to CoH from BW and played it competetively.
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Personally I don't even consider Starcraft to be an RTS game, I just consider it to be THE game. Its in a class of its own.
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Diablo is not a hack n slash, God of War, Devil May Cry, those are hack n slashes.
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Guild War is great if you have good clanmates to play PvP with you. Otherwise it kind of suck.
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On June 20 2010 14:27 Saturnize wrote:
Diablo is not a hack n slash, God of War, Devil May Cry, those are hack n slashes.
Then what is it? It's not RPG for sure. And games like GoW and DMC are very much just dumbed down Diablo with better Graphics.
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And would you please stop all the CoH > BW hate? It's the list of the games I find great and has nothing to do with your own, personal preferences...
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I forgave you for approving of Morrowind, because you said Diablo > Diablo II.
And Company of Heroes is probably the best Real Tactical Squad game around, barring FPS games which make squad dynamics actually interesting.
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On June 20 2010 14:31 Manit0u wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2010 14:27 Saturnize wrote:
Diablo is not a hack n slash, God of War, Devil May Cry, those are hack n slashes. Then what is it? It's not RPG for sure. And games like GoW and DMC are very much just dumbed down Diablo with better Graphics
its clearly an action/rpg even though the action is very dumbed down. saying its not an RPG for sure is naive. even if you dont consider it one you can't call a game that has a leveling system and manual stat allocation a definite not-rpg
GoW, DMC, heavenly sword are hack and slashes. games with zero content other than hacking and slashing.
hack n slash is also synonymous with "garbage" generally
best hack n slash is No More Heroes
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You have leveling system and stat allocation in many games (ranging from FPS through Sports to RTS). This are not the characteristics of an RPG game. It's the content that matters (character background, story, choices you can make, quests you can do that not involve killing etc.) and defines RPG games, and in this department Diablo doesn't offer much.
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I completly agree with you about Diablo 1 & 2
I think that the level design, the "atmosphere" and even the storyline in Diablo 2 are mediocre. I really liked Act 1 because the music and design is really close of the original diablo but Act 2, 3 and 5 are horrible.
On the other hand even if i have played Diablo 1 after D2 i still feel that the single player is way better and that the game has a real "soul".
However don't get me wrong, i think that Diablo 2 is fascinating. Not because of the art design or anything like that but because of how it works and the amount of time/cheat/abuse you need to pull in this game to get decent characters, especially in hardcore. Yea this is stupid and i would never spend 50 hours to get a godly char with sick items but i think that it is amazing in HC, when you can die because of a stupid disco or a random TPPK.
Btw you are right Diablo is an Hack and Slash with some Rpg mechanics.
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On June 20 2010 16:02 Manit0u wrote:
You have leveling system and stat allocation in many games (ranging from FPS through Sports to RTS). This are not the characteristics of an RPG game. It's the content that matters (character background, story, choices you can make, quests you can do that not involve killing etc.) and defines RPG games, and in this department Diablo doesn't offer much.
yeh you definitely sound like a western gamer. nvm then
you're basically only describing games made by bethesda/bioware. which isn't fair and is a very narrow point of view
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On June 20 2010 16:17 mOnion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2010 16:02 Manit0u wrote:
You have leveling system and stat allocation in many games (ranging from FPS through Sports to RTS). This are not the characteristics of an RPG game. It's the content that matters (character background, story, choices you can make, quests you can do that not involve killing etc.) and defines RPG games, and in this department Diablo doesn't offer much. yeh you definitely sound like a western gamer. nvm then you're basically only describing games made by bethesda/bioware. which isn't fair and is a very narrow point of view
The history of Rpg didn't start with Final Fantasy.
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On June 20 2010 16:24 Boblion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2010 16:17 mOnion wrote:On June 20 2010 16:02 Manit0u wrote:
You have leveling system and stat allocation in many games (ranging from FPS through Sports to RTS). This are not the characteristics of an RPG game. It's the content that matters (character background, story, choices you can make, quests you can do that not involve killing etc.) and defines RPG games, and in this department Diablo doesn't offer much. yeh you definitely sound like a western gamer. nvm then you're basically only describing games made by bethesda/bioware. which isn't fair and is a very narrow point of view The history of Rpg didn't start with Final Fantasy.
didn't say it did.
im more of an atlus fan anyway
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On June 20 2010 16:25 mOnion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2010 16:24 Boblion wrote:On June 20 2010 16:17 mOnion wrote:On June 20 2010 16:02 Manit0u wrote:
You have leveling system and stat allocation in many games (ranging from FPS through Sports to RTS). This are not the characteristics of an RPG game. It's the content that matters (character background, story, choices you can make, quests you can do that not involve killing etc.) and defines RPG games, and in this department Diablo doesn't offer much. yeh you definitely sound like a western gamer. nvm then you're basically only describing games made by bethesda/bioware. which isn't fair and is a very narrow point of view The history of Rpg didn't start with Final Fantasy. didn't say it did.
I don't know why you are talking about bethesda/bioware when there are older Rpg who work the same way 
Anyway dumbed down Rpg and Hack and Slash with Rpg mechanics are pretty much the same. I think we can agree ?
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On June 20 2010 16:30 Boblion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2010 16:25 mOnion wrote:On June 20 2010 16:24 Boblion wrote:On June 20 2010 16:17 mOnion wrote:On June 20 2010 16:02 Manit0u wrote:
You have leveling system and stat allocation in many games (ranging from FPS through Sports to RTS). This are not the characteristics of an RPG game. It's the content that matters (character background, story, choices you can make, quests you can do that not involve killing etc.) and defines RPG games, and in this department Diablo doesn't offer much. yeh you definitely sound like a western gamer. nvm then you're basically only describing games made by bethesda/bioware. which isn't fair and is a very narrow point of view The history of Rpg didn't start with Final Fantasy. didn't say it did. So i don't know why you are talking about bethesda/bioware when there are older Rpg who work the same way.
describing the definition of rpg as he did screams western rpg, which means beth/bioware. its this gross mentality that somehow jrpg's dont count because they dont have an annoying fake "morality" system plaguing obscene amounts of dialogue, which is pretty ridiculous
edit: yeh that is true X_X idunno why i turned this into a jrpg vs wrpg fight
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