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I plan on taking sc2 release seriously

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Silent12ill
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States358 Posts
June 08 2010 21:23 GMT
#1
I was competitive counter strike for the longest time and then into cs: source for just as long always going from team to team not finding one that was as serious as I. With sc2 I guess now I don't have to worry about the skill of a team anymore since I can now play for me. Today I woke up watched a day9 vid from the 22gb torrent of his sc2 vods while practicing my openings with terran and protoss using the build order tester and by the end of that vod. After the vod, I really fell more comfortable doing my build and building placement used to make me think on the spot a lot. I write this blog as a promise to myself to continue with my routine to find ways of making it better to prepare for phase 2 or if phase 2 doesn't include me then Ill be ready for the release. I already paid in full my sc2 limited edition and do plan on playing strictly the single player at release until I finish which then I'll hop onto bnet 2.0. I have not found a way yet but I do also plan on purchasing a copy of EU sc2. Seeing as blizzard may or may not give us cross realm play anyways no point in hoping for it i guess. Pending on how well my offline training goes and what happens at launch maybe then I would have to join some gaming organization to help further get noticed.

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mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
June 08 2010 21:28 GMT
#2
be prepared to lose. a lot. sc isn't like counterstrike where you at least you get gratification in shooting someone and contributing to the team. it's 15 minutes of all or nothing and it feels terrible when you get nothing 5 times in a row.
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
June 08 2010 21:29 GMT
#3
Wow! a true hardcore player, wish i had your dedication (:. Maybe future pro to lookout for? good luck.
silencefc
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States875 Posts
June 08 2010 21:31 GMT
#4
The single player will not help you get better at competitive SC2.

Units, abilities, and upgrades will be different. AI also never plays like people, the timings and habits you develop are likely to be irrelevant. Don't expect too much (anything) from your 'offline training,' hop online and play real people from the get go.

If there's an offline multiplayer training mode, it might be worth checking out but no one knows.
Slice like a goddamn hammer.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
June 08 2010 21:36 GMT
#5
Good luck! This game is x100 harder than CS tho, be prepared
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
NeVeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1352 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-08 21:37:10
June 08 2010 21:36 GMT
#6
Why buy EU SC2? Better to get the Asia version if you only plan on getting one more and you're actually serious about getting good. Despite what some people may say, Koreans still dominate the world.

And yeah, what silencefc said.
Silent12ill
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States358 Posts
June 08 2010 21:45 GMT
#7
@mahnini I lost a lot sc/bw and just as I was coming around in both match ups beta came out. In cs it was never my shot that got me threw matches it was more game sense.

@nttea thanks for the support =] I've always looked at everything I do with a real competitive attitude. My freshman year of high school my home room teacher got me to try tennis with my best friend and we figured just our chemistry and we could own in doubles. It wasn't that. It turned out to be our love for showing up the kids we knew paid for lessons and/or played since they were like 8 that truly fueled us for state every year.

@silencefc I understand but its the love of the game reason why I'm playing strictly the single player first but I really do appreciate the input.

@zoler ty for the support <3

@Never are you the toss player I traded replays with? Also you're totally right. I've never in any game used internet or servers as an excuse for my performance. In cs people LOVE to cry about bad server registration I don't think latency will be that much of a factor with my new internet.

@anyone who questions why I dont just quote. cause i can =p
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
June 08 2010 21:48 GMT
#8
Just don't burn yourself out like InReach/Oversky did at the beginning of Beta.
RushWifDietCoke
Profile Joined May 2008
United States488 Posts
June 08 2010 21:48 GMT
#9
Goodluck man, dont let anyone tell you to give up or stop trying! I think especially at first a lot of the broodwar players will have a big advantage though considering SC2 is like broodwar on easy mode. Even D+ on iccup could bring you far into diamond/platinum league.
Nothing to it but to do it.
rwan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada68 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-08 21:57:40
June 08 2010 21:57 GMT
#10
Good luck lol
And you should get Asia version of SC2 instead of EU.
...But the parasites say NO!
n3m0
Profile Joined January 2007
Portugal247 Posts
June 08 2010 22:10 GMT
#11
@silencefc Actually, I've heard some progamers practice their builds and macro against the AI.
Former WGT Clan League Admin - Former Portugal A team manager - Former member of MgZ) / iG. / LRM) - Starcraft Broodwar
FraCuS
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1072 Posts
June 08 2010 22:10 GMT
#12
On June 09 2010 06:36 Zoler wrote:
Good luck! This game is x100 harder than CS tho, be prepared



lol. SC2 is not harder then CS.

I play CS:1.6 and its wayy harder.
I dont play pubs.
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Reuental
Profile Joined July 2009
United States457 Posts
June 08 2010 22:15 GMT
#13
On June 09 2010 07:10 FraCuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2010 06:36 Zoler wrote:
Good luck! This game is x100 harder than CS tho, be prepared



lol. SC2 is not harder then CS.

I play CS:1.6 and its wayy harder.
I dont play pubs.


SC2 is a 1v1 game and CS is a team game. There also different genres. So comparing the difficulties of the two is nigh impossible.
I'm a Crab made of men.
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
June 08 2010 22:16 GMT
#14
On June 09 2010 06:23 Silent12ill wrote:
I was competitive counter strike for the longest time and then into cs: source for just as long always going from team to team not finding one that was as serious as I. With sc2 I guess now I don't have to worry about the skill of a team anymore since I can now play for me. Today I woke up watched a day9 vid from the 22gb torrent of his sc2 vods while practicing my openings with terran and protoss using the build order tester and by the end of that vod. After the vod, I really fell more comfortable doing my build and building placement used to make me think on the spot a lot. I write this blog as a promise to myself to continue with my routine to find ways of making it better to prepare for phase 2 or if phase 2 doesn't include me then Ill be ready for the release. I already paid in full my sc2 limited edition and do plan on playing strictly the single player at release until I finish which then I'll hop onto bnet 2.0. I have not found a way yet but I do also plan on purchasing a copy of EU sc2. Seeing as blizzard may or may not give us cross realm play anyways no point in hoping for it i guess. Pending on how well my offline training goes and what happens at launch maybe then I would have to join some gaming organization to help further get noticed.


So, wait, you're telling me you want to be pro at SC2 and you're studying Day9 replays (from beta) like they are a calculus textbook? If there's anything else you can do in your life right now, I suggest you do that.
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
June 08 2010 22:17 GMT
#15
On June 09 2010 07:10 FraCuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2010 06:36 Zoler wrote:
Good luck! This game is x100 harder than CS tho, be prepared



lol. SC2 is not harder then CS.

I play CS:1.6 and its wayy harder.
I dont play pubs.


this could actually be true, allthough i have only casual gaming experience from cs 1.6 i would imagine the skill level of long time gamers would own me ridiculously over over and for a loong long time. Broodwar and quake3 still beats cs 1.6 though ^_^
RushWifDietCoke
Profile Joined May 2008
United States488 Posts
June 08 2010 22:20 GMT
#16
On June 09 2010 07:10 FraCuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2010 06:36 Zoler wrote:
Good luck! This game is x100 harder than CS tho, be prepared



lol. SC2 is not harder then CS.

I play CS:1.6 and its wayy harder.
I dont play pubs.


SC:BW > CS:1.6 > SC2

In terms of difficulty.
Nothing to it but to do it.
FortuneSyn
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1826 Posts
June 08 2010 22:23 GMT
#17
Difficulty for what? To beat a single player campaign? To beat player X? It's all relative. Given roughly the same competitive environment, there is no more or less difficult.
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
June 08 2010 22:32 GMT
#18
were you not taking the beta seriously? hate to break it to ya, but if you weren't taking beta seriously you're a bit behind in terms of taking things seriously lol.

GL tho.
Sup
ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-08 22:41:27
June 08 2010 22:41 GMT
#19
Keep in mind -

people taking sc 2 seriously are like coat hangers. No one is really sure where they came from or wtf to do with all of them. It's all about results.

That being said, good luck! I love when people get dedicated.
Each day gets better : )
Hans-Titan
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Denmark1711 Posts
June 08 2010 22:48 GMT
#20
Play BW.

All the practice you'll ever need. It gives you so much better multitasking and attentiveness.
Trying is the first step towards failure, and hope is the first step towards disappointment!
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
June 09 2010 00:33 GMT
#21
On June 09 2010 07:48 Hans-Titan wrote:
Play BW.

All the practice you'll ever need. It gives you so much better multitasking and attentiveness.


This

Play a real mans game
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
June 09 2010 00:36 GMT
#22
On June 09 2010 07:15 Crabman123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2010 07:10 FraCuS wrote:
On June 09 2010 06:36 Zoler wrote:
Good luck! This game is x100 harder than CS tho, be prepared



lol. SC2 is not harder then CS.

I play CS:1.6 and its wayy harder.
I dont play pubs.


SC2 is a 1v1 game and CS is a team game. There also different genres. So comparing the difficulties of the two is nigh impossible.

Yeah I agree, apples and oranges.
condoriano
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States826 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-09 00:43:34
June 09 2010 00:43 GMT
#23
Well, if you consider the time invested into becoming good, sc2 could be harder than CS. I used to play CS (until 2002) and with a proper environment you can get good relatively fast, probably 2 years or even less. With bw it was nearly impossible, with sc2 it could be hard too (depends on how you define good), because every B- and above player that switched from bw will have at least a 4 year head start on you in terms of mechanics. Old wc3 players count too.
Ridentem dicere verum quid vetat?
luminaire
Profile Joined May 2010
United States56 Posts
June 09 2010 01:18 GMT
#24
On June 09 2010 09:43 condoriano wrote:
Well, if you consider the time invested into becoming good, sc2 could be harder than CS. I used to play CS (until 2002) and with a proper environment you can get good relatively fast, probably 2 years or even less. With bw it was nearly impossible, with sc2 it could be hard too (depends on how you define good), because every B- and above player that switched from bw will have at least a 4 year head start on you in terms of mechanics. Old wc3 players count too.


I think sc2 would be a lot easier to get good at than BW at this point in time. I was never that great at BW, but I always wished I had gotten in right at the beginning so I could participate in the discovery of the "official" strategies in each matchup.

I'm really excited now that I have the chance to get into sc2 at the very beginning and experience the evolution of the game.

GL in your quest!!
Work hard and never give up.
SilentCrono
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1420 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-09 01:34:34
June 09 2010 01:33 GMT
#25
why would you switch to source? dumb idea.
♞ Your soul will forever be lost in the void of a horse. ♞
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
June 09 2010 01:50 GMT
#26
On June 09 2010 07:23 FortuneSyn wrote:
Difficulty for what? To beat a single player campaign? To beat player X? It's all relative. Given roughly the same competitive environment, there is no more or less difficult.

Versus the average player or team. Getting into upper diamond isn't much of a feat, and even though CS's run is near its end, the skill level of your average CEVO-M team is much, much higher than CAL-M teams were 5 years ago.

The same thing happened in BW.
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