• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:44
CEST 01:44
KST 08:44
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple2BSL Season 2313Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon101Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10
StarCraft 2
General
How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Grand Finals ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 544 Double Trouble The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses Mutation # 542 The Ascended
Brood War
General
Bot on ladder BW General Discussion BSL Season 23 an AI researcher's take on the ladder bot Syncronization issues and can't find games
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro8 Day 2 [ASL22] Ro8 Day 1 [IPSL] IPSL is Back With Winter 26-27!
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Artificial Intelligence Thread All you football fans (soccer)!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Violent-Cooperative Play and…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 11109 users

Practice Theory

Blogs > phyvo
Post a Reply
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
June 08 2010 01:04 GMT
#1
I've heard many criticisms and questions regarding the best ways to practice, which got me asking an altogether different question.

Why do gamers practice the way they do? And why is it so different from how we practice virtually everything else?

As far as I know, the Korean method seems to mostly be massing games supported by the experience of old hands at the business. Though people here often criticize Korea for their long hours spent massing games, common practice methods here in the foreign scene don't seem all that different to me. We may mass games, but we tend to not lose as much sleep over it. Day9's advice to focus on improving one thing at a time still involves a lot of game massing. Build orders and counter build orders seem to be tested vs practice partners and still involves a lot of playing lots of games. The most radical suggestion I think I've heard involved saving games in middle so that one could immediately jump to practicing the midgame. Finally, here and there are the odd multitasking or micro maps which some people use and some people don't use.

What confuses me is that this thing with playing the entire game seems to dominate the whole scene, and as gamers we tend to practice things completely differently from what I would expect from, say, a musician.

To illustrate one aspect of this, I've never, ever, heard anyone recommend that you play at a slower game speed in order to practice multitasking correctly before you speed up. If you have difficulty with a piano part this would be standard practice, and you'd start slow and just practice going faster until you could do it full speed. But in Starcraft? No, I've never heard such a suggestion, and I'm not good enough to know whether such a thing might help.

Perhaps other differences are more explainable. When you play a piano piece it doesn't suddenly diverge into a million possible forks depending on what the person flipping the pages decides to do to you. Games are entertainment and are meant to be fun when played in their entirety, so we tend to play them in a way that's fun. Perhaps most importantly, games are not a generally respectable profession with many years of history and experience helping to work out kinks in practice methods.

This leads me to wonder: What would practicing Starcraft or Starcraft 2 look like if it did have maestros with lifetimes of experience and knowledge? Would we see more specialized training maps? Hundreds, if not thousands of saved games where you can jump to any point in your BO and your opponent's BO in order to practice?

Or have we been right all along with what we're doing now?

"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Mylin
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden177 Posts
June 08 2010 01:25 GMT
#2
I think in BW it has to do with the complexity of the game requiring players to master so many different areas that also relates to eachother that makes the best method of practice being just massing games.

Much in the same way chess players don't practice playing games with say only the queen to improve their proficiency with that particular piece.

There is of course exceptions (like mutalisk micro vs scourge) and I would also argue that some aspects are similiar to the way you described learning a piano piece. A good example here is learning a new BO where you won't try to master it perfectly from say 1 to 200 supply on your first go but rather retrying once you fail. Then going further with each game until you master it completely.
no
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL: Ladder Tournament
19:00
#1 - $100
ZZZero.O147
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SpeCial 82
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 16569
Shuttle 653
ZZZero.O 147
Dewaltoss 98
910 38
Shine 12
Terrorterran 8
Dota 2
monkeys_forever725
League of Legends
Doublelift3939
Counter-Strike
fl0m6162
minikerr25
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr78
Other Games
summit1g7984
JimRising 486
ToD328
C9.Mang0267
PiGStarcraft242
ArmadaUGS99
ViBE76
Mew2King69
Maynarde0
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1088
StarCraft: Brood War
Afreeca ASL 218
[ Show 10 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 97
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22394
Upcoming Events
GSL
8h 16m
Yamato Cup
15h 16m
BSL Open Qualifier
19h 16m
BSL Open Qualifier
19h 16m
Replay Cast
1d
Afreeca Starleague
1d 10h
Soma vs Jaedong
WardiTV Weekly
1d 11h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 16h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Leta vs Soulkey
[ Show More ]
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Online Event
6 days
FEL
6 days
BSL: Ladder Tournament
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Calamity Invitational
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Custodian Cup
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.