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tube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1475 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-28 03:22:32
May 28 2010 03:04 GMT
#1
I miss it so much TT

It would make me so happy if they reimplemented it into proleague, even if it's only 1 game per match. 2:2 games were really refreshing after a bunch of 1:1s, and they could easily make or break the proleague match for the two teams.
I miss seeing the sick teamwork and 2v2 strategies that only korean pros could analyze and pull off, as well as the mostly-failures of 1v2 comeback attempts.
Past times, good times..

Great [obligatory] 2v2, not one of the bests I've seen but still really worth watching, featuring two of my favorite players (and rivals) on the same team

Watching this back then, I obviously had no experience in 2v2, so I was really intrigued at how July stayed super low econ and just massed speedlings, ignoring the threat of thezerg's mutas, as well as oov's early map control after they stopped the first wave of zealots/lings.

anyone want to post their favorite 2:2 games?

*****
Two in harmony surpasses one in perfection.
Wohmfg
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1292 Posts
May 28 2010 03:09 GMT
#2
When did they stop doing 2v2? In fact, when did they start?

I'm definitely interested in watching some. :D
BW4Life!
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-28 03:14:37
May 28 2010 03:12 GMT
#3
Started since the start of the OGN Proleague, stopped in 2007.
There have been some amazing 2v2 games, I think I had a list somewhere but lemme check my blog

EDIT: it appears I got lazy and only did the best game. http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=78535

There have been some crazy games, many involving savior and bisu on iron curtain lol
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sixghost
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2096 Posts
May 28 2010 03:14 GMT
#4
There were a couple awesome 2v2 games, but for the most part the games were extremely similar. I'm glad it's gone.
mG.sixghost @ iCCup || One ling, two ling, three ling, four... Camp four gas, then ultra-whore . -Saracen
Wohmfg
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1292 Posts
May 28 2010 03:16 GMT
#5
On May 28 2010 12:12 Plexa wrote:
Started since the start of the OGN Proleague, stopped in 2007.
There have been some amazing 2v2 games, I think I had a list somewhere but lemme check my blog

EDIT: it appears I got lazy and only did the best game. http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=78535

There have been some crazy games, many involving savior and bisu on iron curtain lol


Thanks!

I'll check it out.
BW4Life!
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
May 28 2010 03:30 GMT
#6
2:2 was Ace's only chance for victory for so long... and then they take even that away. they should bring it back just for Ace's sake
manner
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
May 28 2010 03:37 GMT
#7
a good one would be Nada 1v2 Boxer and forgot who. on Iron Curtain.
basically Boxer choked, but still good 1v2.
Arrian
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States889 Posts
May 28 2010 03:40 GMT
#8
Part of its decline I think were the maps. There were some really awesome old school 2v2 maps but as time went on they got worse and worse. And generally the best players weren't the ones playing 2v2 for obvious reason, owing to its decline and eventual exclusion.

There was also the balance issue as in ZZ teams were disallowed and PT was impossible and no team played without a Z because of Zs ability to pump lings early. Dunno if this is solved in SC2 but I guess we'll find out.

There were some really awesome 2v2s but in general I find I don't miss them that much. There wasn't a whole lot of ingenuity and they usually ended in like 7 minutes with masses of tier one units teaming up on one guy and the other being late to respond and then gg.
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EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
May 28 2010 03:43 GMT
#9
the julyzerg + iloveoov team was amazing back then.. It was like if flash and jaedong were on the same team now.
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-28 03:53:06
May 28 2010 03:52 GMT
#10
On May 28 2010 12:40 Arrian wrote:
There was also the balance issue as in ZZ teams were disallowed and PT was impossible and no team played without a Z because of Zs ability to pump lings early.


ZZ wasn't specifically targeted; all same race teams were disallowed.

not that anyone would really want to send out a PP or TT team, but....
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Kau *
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada3502 Posts
May 28 2010 04:05 GMT
#11
On May 28 2010 12:52 Mindcrime wrote:
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On May 28 2010 12:40 Arrian wrote:
There was also the balance issue as in ZZ teams were disallowed and PT was impossible and no team played without a Z because of Zs ability to pump lings early.


ZZ wasn't specifically targeted; all same race teams were disallowed.

not that anyone would really want to send out a PP or TT team, but....

Except when they were on DMZ
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 28 2010 04:28 GMT
#12
DMZ was awesome there is actually an awesome game between goodfriend/yellow and some other TZ team on that map that went into midgame. It was crazyyyy
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Probe.
Profile Joined May 2009
United States877 Posts
May 28 2010 04:29 GMT
#13
There was a 2v2 game i remember where Nal_rA mind controlled enemy dropships full of goliath. 2v2's back then were so awesome. I remember Reach and Yellow were like the unstoppable 2v2 team. Man i miss KTF 2v2s
meow
Bub
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States3518 Posts
May 28 2010 07:04 GMT
#14
I love pro 2v2s man! I just wish it was more.. well, you know.

Thanks for that youtube vid tube (heh) very awesome =D
XK ßubonic
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
May 28 2010 07:07 GMT
#15
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Kau *
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada3502 Posts
May 28 2010 14:17 GMT
#16
On May 28 2010 13:28 Plexa wrote:
DMZ was awesome there is actually an awesome game between goodfriend/yellow and some other TZ team on that map that went into midgame. It was crazyyyy


You're the only other person I know that likes DMZ. Why does the TLPD-ize of DMZ fail to link to the proper page?
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anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
May 28 2010 14:33 GMT
#17
It would be amazing if a good ICC 2v2 player started a live stream.

One summer I watched like every pro 2v2 and a lot of them are pretty sick, they should have just made really crazy maps instead of killing the game type completely
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5758 Posts
May 28 2010 14:50 GMT
#18
I tried setting up a livestream, but my computer and probably internet connection wasn't good enough to run everything and play at the same time. =P
anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-28 14:52:02
May 28 2010 14:51 GMT
#19
i will settle for low quality, no sound?
<3
doktorLucifer
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States855 Posts
May 28 2010 19:09 GMT
#20
TT and PP are good vs ZZ(?)

This is what a lot of 2:2ers seem to say, but it is difficult against really good muta control. TP is also ok vs ZZ.

But imagine having to watch 2:2's with TT PP and ZZ teams, those actually get boring.
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