Starcraft 2 Destination

On April 26 2010 04:58 SkelA wrote:
This is better than the first version.

Small complaint ...make the middle bridges smaller they are way too big maybe you can shorten them for like 1/3 or even half the lenght.

On April 26 2010 05:26 stalife wrote:
what i find with these new maps is that why aren't there gold minerals on naturals? It could definitely create interesting builds imo b/c you have the extra incentive to early expand.

On April 26 2010 05:33 DeLoAdEr wrote:
dl not working for me :/

On April 26 2010 06:01 Latham wrote:
Beautiful job. This and HeyItsClay's Python are the best replicas I've seen. If I could play them, I wouldn't hesitate even for a heart beat.

Just 1 suggestion: You know where at 8 o'clock and 2 o'clock you have gold minerals? I'm more concerned about such wide open spaces right on the sides of those expos, next to their respective cliffs. You should add more cliffs, extend the outer layers of cliffs some more, because it looks like it's much too wide open.

edit: this suggestion is based on pic of V 1.1

On April 26 2010 07:34 Lightswarm wrote:
can u make a version of desti where u get 1 gas like in sc1? im just very curious how the game pans out with different number of gases (ofc make 1 round of gas 10 each trip)

PS: idk if u can even change the amount of resources u can carry each trip so if you cant plz ignore this post

On April 26 2010 05:27 Adeny wrote:
I think it would be cooler if the top left corner had an island, with like 60 mineral patches... But then you still lost, anyone agree?

On April 26 2010 08:20 ggrrg wrote:
It looks pretty nice. I gonna try it.
However, I really cannot imagine what use are the min only expansions in sc2. You lack gas anyway, why would you take the min only and not any other expansion.

On April 30 2010 01:51 GoodCat1 wrote:
WTF with the tileset :/

Out of the three maps I've seen on this site, I'll have to say I like yours the most! It's more accurate than others and such.

There is one published on Bnet right now on USA server that's also pretty good, but he made the bridges way too big ( he may not have considered that units can move together much closer in sc2 than in sc 1 ) and that's a big problem to me xD.

Right now though, it's not Published. Can you publish this soon? Or can I go publish it and just give you credit? Since Beta is going to restart/end in a few days xD I want to play against my friends with this map.

A couple things that I would love to see:

With a fairly long ranged ground unit, to be able to snipe workers or buildings at the mineral line at the naturals. There was this one specific spot at the cliff in sc1 where you could do this, and was very effective with a Lurker or such. Cliffs don't seem to be able to be as thin as in sc1 though, so i don't know if this is possible yet. May be you could have a little "break" in the cliff, and simply put a 1x1 impassable square under Pathing?

The bridges to be tweaked a little more. I look at this map for a bit, and it seems like right now it is as good as it can be though, due to limitations (cliffs/bridges only being able to be widened by 2 spaces at a time instead of 1...). But if possible in the future, the inner bridge leading to the natural (the one closer to the main) should be moved to lead more directly into the middle of the mineral line. Generally the two bridges at the natural should be moved a bit closer. I think the easiest way to go about this is to just move the inner bridge closer to the second bridge, even if it only leaves a 1x1 water space in between them, and enlarge the plateaus for the main bases to make up for the new water space. ( Southeast of top base can come out more, northwest of bottom base can come out more ). If you then compare the new changes to the SC1 version, it will be closer as that part of the plateau just out further than the base of the ramp anyways.

The only real problem (which is a tiny one) is that the inner natural bridge won't lead straight into the High Yield Expo's ramp, but that's more just for looks than balance xD.

Bridges in the middle, if possible, should be thinned inwards. As in, keep the water space between the two bridges as it seems good (enough so that a range 5-7 can hit across? idk) but make them thinner. I think the width you chose is the best though considering that you can't make bridges/cliffs 3 matrices wide but only 2 and 4...

One LAST thing ^^

At the High Yield Expo on the left, and the respective on the right:

I think you should jut the cliff out just a bit (2x2 space?) at the southeast of the plateau. The SC1 version had this, and so the end of the cliff protruded as far as the base of the ramp, unlike your version.

Ok very very long post I know. Haha. But it seems like you spent a lot of good time into this so I hope you probably wanted any bit of feedback possible!

Again this map is pretty much the best I've seen, enough for it to be "passing" as a relatively balanced map that can be played on without many problems. Darn the editor, if only it let you make 3x3 matrices xD.

Just wondering; did you import via the Legacy Map Import tool? Or did you just totally recreate this?

The only problem with this that I see is forcefields, and reducing the size will furthur disfavor zerg, which on this map already has a hard enough time. I'll think about it and maybe fool around with it but I doubt I'll make them smaller, you have no idea how deadly a few forcefields + storm are on those bridges.

I published it under Destination 2.0 v1.5, currently revision 0.4 so it's: Destination 2.0 v1.5 v0.4
I think the next time I'll publish it (my v1.6) I'll just name it Destination 2.0