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On April 11 2010 22:56 lac29 wrote:
There usually a reason why they won awards =). Name me another zombie movie this decade that can compete with 28 days.
They win awards because they were usually epic dramas. That in itself tells me something about who the Academy Awards chooses to 'win' their statues.
My enjoyment of film really has nothing to do with genres or awards, and that is why I find your film choices puzzling. They're 'good' movies, some, but I've seen almost all the ones on your list and they don't really stand out.
Children of Men one of the best this decade? I thought the Inside Man was even better.
28 Days Later better than Dawn of the Dead? I'm not a zombie enthusiast but I thought Days was just really pointless.
Training Day was the shiznit. I forgot to put it on my list, but you said it might not even belong on a list.
Crash was pretentious tripe. I thought the film was mindless fun, mostly because of the dialogue. But far too many people thought it had 'deep' meanings regarding racism. I thought the movie was really obvious and shallow.
Atonement. Enjoyable, but a melodramatic and shallow epic.
Slumdog Millionaire. I think the appropriate word here is 'hype'.
Million Dollar Baby. This movie killed me for being so melodramatic. I couldn't believe the attention it got. A down and out girl boxer wanders into a gym and trains to become a champion boxer, instilling faith into a curmudgeon coach. Give me a break.
I hope not to offend, but the Academy Awards is a total farce. I just find myself not really giving any weight to the winners because most of them are practically pre ordained.
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On April 11 2010 22:56 lac29 wrote:
There usually a reason why they won awards =). Yeah, like The Blind Side, The English Patient, Chariots of Fire, Titanic, A Beautiful Mind, Dances with Wolves, etc.
They're not necessarily bad (except The Blind Side, which is awful and racist) but none of these films were the best of their year. I'd even throw Crash, Braveheart and Forrest Gump on that list. The Oscars are nice to way to get a list of movies, but more often than not the decisions are politically/socially motivated, and occasionally the best don't even get nominated. The Shining, The Usual Suspects, Memento, Do The Right Thing, etc. Name me another zombie movie this decade that can compete with 28 days. People just take issue with the fast zombie + infection thing. I think without a doubt, the best zombie movies of the decade were the comedies. Zombieland, Planet Terror, Shaun of the Dead, Dead Snow, Fido.
For "serious" zombies, Land of the Dead? Dawn? Or how about Dead Girl? Not the same sort of zombie movie, but technically a zombie and pretty disturbing.
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Sorry but name me some movies better than the ones I listed. Training Day competes with 25th Hour ... they're similar movies from my point of view. Children of Men is def a candidate for best of decade and imo def better than Inside Man which is just another heist movie (albeit good one). CoM has so many ingredients from different genres and did it so well while being a moral of the story kind of movie. I don't remember Dawn of the Dead if I saw it or not but 28 Days obviously made a bigger impression on me. Atonement was a bit shallow I agree. Slumdug did meet the hype from my point of view and I watched it months after everyone hyped it up. MDB was maybe a bit melodramatic but it was definitely a great movie and I'm glad it ended the way it did or else it would've been kind of stupid.
I'm surprised you would pick Inside Man ... there are so many "good" heist movies that it's pretty oversaturated genre.
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Zombieland was good but it's a comedy and there are def better ones (Little Miss Sunshine?). Also Shaun of the Dead is probably better than Zombieland from my pov. Planet Terror is def not one of the best movies of the decade and very much average. 28 Days to me is heads above the rest of the noncomedy zombie movies.
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I guess the question we're wondering is how many movies have you seen that weren't on the Oscar list?
And how is Training Day similar to 25th Hour? o.o
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I actually have a list of all the ones I've seen since I like keeping lists of books movie and beers I've seen/tried =).
Training Day - police drama
25th Hour - drama
Also Snatch > Inside Man.
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Uh... like you compare The Hurt Locker with Blackhawk Down, but they're completely different types of movies. drama/police drama, war/war doesn't really work, cause you're missing what they're trying to do.
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Fact is people don't want to see the same types of movies or same subjects being shown in a top whatever list unless it's that fantastically good that both deserve to be on the list. Sure my war/war police drama/drama doesn't work exactly because movies aren't exactly the same. But it's def one way to reduce repetitive subjects/genre movies. You may argue I have a lot of craptastic dramas in there (which I agree ... you can take out Atonement etc if you want). I just happen to think if you want a best of list you're going to see a lot more dramas than any other genre.
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Agreed there. I actually like most of your list, but I think the Hurt Locker thing is important cause they're so radically different. It's like Dexter and Breaking Bad. BHD is a hero action movie at heart, that happens to throw in a heartsy feely true story to make people sentimental. Hurt Locker is a drama that uses action to make people uncomfortable and show how banal being a veteran can be. The film could totally survive without any explosions or sniper duels and in fact, the non-action (or I guess pre-action) is the most intense part of the movie.
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I was at the movie store the other day with my brother and we got talking about the academy. Half of the movies that are always up for movie of the year nobody even talks about and is not doing super great in theaters. It just makes me think the academy are a bunch of elitist pretentious douches. The movie has some artsy something to it or is so sad/mellow dramatic. I don't have a problem with a lot of pictures that won in the past, but that's how I feel about a good majority of them this decade.
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On April 11 2010 22:56 lac29 wrote:
There usually a reason why they won awards =). Name me another zombie movie this decade that can compete with 28 days.
did you actually read my post or did you just go "mh, he's criticising me, mh he mentions 28dayslater", whether it's a good movie or not has got nothing to do with what I wrote.
On April 11 2010 23:55 lac29 wrote:
I don't remember Dawn of the Dead if I saw it or not but 28 Days obviously made a bigger impression on me.
Obviously it made a bigger impression on you if you haven't seen it lol (havent seen it either, just saying..)
On April 11 2010 23:59 Jibba wrote:
I guess the question we're wondering is how many movies have you seen that weren't on the Oscar list?
yea +1
btw. it seems like a lot of good movies cant be mentioned here cause they were all done in 1999 lol
(Magnolia, Fight Club, Matrix, Big Lebowski..)
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Actually I went back to my list. I did see Dawn of the Dead and I rated it a 3/5 while I rated 28 Days 4/5.
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On April 11 2010 02:35 Sfydjklm wrote:Anyone who doesnt have Oldboy on top 10 of just a decade( i can cut some slack to alltime  ) fails as a human being!!!!
QFT
Not in order of preference for me. Hard to decide what is better than what sometimes. I included movies from 2000 since you did as well n_n;
--- Korean Movies ---
1. Oldboy
Captured and imprisoned for 15 years in a dingy apartment, the main character has less than a week to figure out who ruined his life, why, and to get revenge. Amazing cinematography, good soundtrack, some excellent acting, and an interesting plot. Must-watch.
2. Bin-Jip (3 Iron)
A young homeless man travels on his motorcycle from house to house, breaking in while the owners are away, washing their clothes, fixing their broken things, and taking pictures in the house as if it were his own; his life changes when he finds a companion in an abused ajuma who decides to become a nomad with him.
3. Tae Guk Gi (Brotherhood of War)
The best war story I've seen.
4. Jakeob-ui Jeongseok (Art of Seduction)
The best romantic comedy I've seen. If only American movies of this genre were any sort of comparable. Also, the main actress makes me hard with her cuteness ^^;
--- American Movies ---
5. Requiem for a Dream
Darren Aronofsky uses his unique style that he developed in Pi and applies it to the drug scene. Tragic and somewhat realistic story of how fickle, fleeting, and dangerous the druggie life is when addiction takes over. Genius use of rapidly changing short clips and classical/eclectic music.
6. Pirates of the Caribbean 3: At World's End
My favorite of the series, has great cinematography and Johnny Depp making up for the lacking performances of other stars as always. The musical score is beautiful, the sets are breathtaking (the frozen North, the islands, the battle?).
7. Harold & Kumar go to White Castle
One of my favorite modern comedies.
8. Memento
Love it or hate it, the concept is unique and I enjoyed this movie greatly. Synopsis: Man has amnesia and randomly loses his memory. Is on the hunt of the murderer of his wife. Has to tattoo information about the murderer on his body to remind himself. Twists!
9. The Pianist -AND- Enemy at the Gates
Two of my favorite war movies.
--- Other Foreign Movies ---
10. Shutter [Thailand]
Probably the best horror flick I've seen in a while (although I admit I do not see many).
Enjoy! n_n;
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Shawshank Redemption was mainly good for the twist ending at the end.
When I first saw it, it really blew me away. Such a good movie.
I saw it again the other day, already knowing the twist ending, and wasn't that impressed with the performances and dialogue.
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On April 14 2010 23:14 MourningWould wrote:
Shawshank Redemption was mainly good for the twist ending at the end.
When I first saw it, it really blew me away. Such a good movie.
I saw it again the other day, already knowing the twist ending, and wasn't that impressed with the performances and dialogue.
Uhh.. shawshank came out in like early 90s?
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people are bad with their decades
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6. I am Legend (2007)
Will Smith at his finest
eh... i like his performance in "Pursuit of HAPPYness" more
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I loved that also, i don't know why I liked I am Legend so much. People either completely hate it or love it
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in no order
[rec]
black hawk down
there will be blood
fellowship of the ring
spirited away
amélie
children of men
shaun of the dead
downfall
moon
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