EPTOn April 10 2010 15:51 sqwert wrote:
we got Rektrolled
we got Rektrolled
Still laughing.
I was wrong. - Page 18
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Still laughing. | ||
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Chairman Ray
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krndandaman
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ShaperofDreams
Canada2492 Posts
On April 10 2010 13:46 semantics wrote: During savior dominance with prize money factored in he was making like 2 mil a year in US dollars. Ughh this is blatant bullshit. | ||
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JadeFist
United States1225 Posts
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Milkis
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Will translate important bits in a second. They're postings from sports betting communities. First Image: Sounds like an official that is posting about the Bogus - Savior match, which they seem to be very very certain that it was rigged. The last underlined bit talks about Bisu in that they think Bisu's matches that day also seemed a bit more rigged, but The Bogus - Savior game was something they actually got a report on. Second Image: Someone just talking about the logistics of it. Things in parenthesis are context There still seems to be people who don't believe in match fixing in Starcraft. There is match fixing in Starcraft. The biggest reason why people don't believe in match fixing in Starcraft is because they don't fix matches every day. "Photon"(Name of a user) posted a thread about Starcraft match fixing. He is correct. The players and the brokers do not directly bet on the game, nor do the "playgrounds"(what seems to be betting communities) There are three things that are needed to fix a match in Starcraft 1) A player who will join the scheme 2) The broker that manages that player 3) A huge better that "spins"(not 100% sure what they mean here) at least 10 playgrounds If these three conditions are met, then match fixing becomes possible. The brokers go around playgrounds, and look for a huge betters, and see how many playgrounds they can "spin". These brokers also pay attention to the odds given for Starcraft matches. After this, they approach this "huge better", to see if they're interested in a contract. There are little to no "huge betters" in our cafe that have never been involved in one of these contracts There are now more obstacles that make match fixing a little harder, but a long time ago, it was very easy and the playgrounds were swept by them. Third Image: Someone posting that "Police are finally taking action" against Starcraft Betting Fourth Image: The Cafe Staff warning about Betting in games by UpMaGic, YellOw[ArnC], Luxury, because "everyone knows" there are forces behind planning their games. | ||
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Nightmarjoo
United States3360 Posts
On April 10 2010 14:51 Rekrul wrote: actually, since you're all such non believers and doubters i won't bother giving you anything more you all can suck my dick (not posting in this thread anymore)  was sitting here refreshing waiting for the full skoop, not nonbelieving, come back! | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
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ShaperofDreams
Canada2492 Posts
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Scaramanga
Australia8091 Posts
On April 10 2010 16:01 Chairman Ray wrote: Why would someone need to pay Luxury to lose? I don't see there being large sums of money betted on Luxury unlike Savior and Anytime. Have you seen Lux at his prime? His bo5 vs flash in the ever 08 osl pretty much sums it up, go watch nao | ||
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Aus)MaCrO
Australia349 Posts
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IndecisivePenguin
United States771 Posts
So do the players with crazy-excellent win-to-lose ratios have a less likelihood of being involved with these things? I do wonder. | ||
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IndecisivePenguin
United States771 Posts
On April 10 2010 14:36 Rekrul wrote: very wrong, people who only see short term gain and don't realize long term risks are the people who engage in this kind of behavior, and also the kind of people capable of doing something compulsive like spending it or stupidly putting it into their bank account which ultimately are the kinds of things that get people caught it's funny with these kinds of things, once you do it once you are endebted to the people bribing you, because they can blackmail you into continuing to do it forever after that anyways, i'm glad this is all happening now, before sc2 comes out. it's a definite wound to progaming but it will heal and make it stronger. I was feeling this too for some reason. I feel like this is a good thing. Especially with the timing of SC2 being released in the not-too-far future. P.S. Sorry for posting again, I really felt like bringing this point up. | ||
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JadeFist
United States1225 Posts
Plus it's April 10th (not 1st), so it'd be really lame of Rekrul to trick us like this. Also, the removal of pre-scheduled matches is very strange indeed. And why would eSTRO pull UpMagic?? | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
I always found it strange that savior still kept a 70-80% win rate vs P even though Bisu reinvented PvZ. | ||
Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
On April 10 2010 16:32 SuperArc wrote: This would also explain savior's OSL preliminaries fail and the sudden 0-3 loss to Bisu. I always found it strange that savior still kept a 70-80% win rate vs P even though Bisu reinvented PvZ. lol don't even | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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GTR
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On April 10 2010 16:35 krndandaman wrote: Yeah Upmagic is estro's CAPTAIN. He hasn't really been doing horrible either, he's much better than most of the a-teamers besides Really. Right now we are probably hearing both truth and false info. actually he was replaced as captain by really. | ||
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zgl
United States1055 Posts
On April 10 2010 16:10 Milkis wrote: + Show Spoiler + Will translate important bits in a second. They're nowhere near official, other than the first one, since they're all seem to be a cafe blog post from a betting community. First Image: Sounds like an official that is posting about the Bogus - Savior match, which they seem to be very very certain that it was rigged. The last underlined bit talks about Bisu in that they think Bisu's matches that day also seemed a bit more rigged, but The Bogus - Savior game was something they actually got a report on. Second Image: Someone just talking about the logistics of it. Third Image: Someone posting that "Police are finally taking action" against Starcraft Betting Fourth Image: The Cafe Staff warning about Betting in games by UpMaGic, YellOw[ArnC], Luxury, because "everyone knows" there are forces behind planning their games. Thanks for the follow up!! Really appreciate it. | ||
tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On April 10 2010 16:32 SuperArc wrote: This would also explain savior's OSL preliminaries fail and the sudden 0-3 loss to Bisu. I always found it strange that savior still kept a 70-80% win rate vs P even though Bisu reinvented PvZ. Seriously. I always found [match where a good player lost to a worse player] suspicious. This totally explains that loss. Therefore, the original explanation is true. Tough call, on picking just one logical fallacy. I'm going to go with Affirming the Consequent. | ||
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