EPTI was wrong. - Page 20
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Elroi
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Sauron
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sdeva
Singapore1 Post
Anyway, thanks for revealing this... | ||
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404.Delirium
United States1190 Posts
This whole drama bomb thing kind of rekindled my BW fire though. It's just seemed real stale lately. Lately being last year+. <3's Rekrul. <3's TL. <3's ETT | ||
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Clownz
Finland53 Posts
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wfoperational
United States143 Posts
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3FFA
United States3931 Posts
On April 10 2010 13:05 Rekrul wrote: april fools was over a week ago you idiots i'm not joking lol I keep having to tell my folks this exact quote lol. Otherwise, great find! Finally there is proof that even the very best make huge mistakes too! | ||
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3FFA
United States3931 Posts
On April 10 2010 19:58 404.Delirium wrote: I can't tell what's more extreme. The brilliance and hilarity of this thread or the lack of people that don't read the whole thread before posting. (Been guilty of that with the Bel-Air thread. Learned that lesson quick. I believe ETT quoted me and said I wasn't aware of how full of fail I was.) This whole drama bomb thing kind of rekindled my BW fire though. It's just seemed real stale lately. Lately being last year+. <3's Rekrul. <3's TL. <3's ETT So you didn't read the whole thread? lol. | ||
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barth
Ireland1272 Posts
Anyway, enjoyable thread. | ||
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Prof. Protoss
Germany744 Posts
Oh I'm sorry. I guess I don't know "the real world" enough to talk to you. | ||
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Fish_Baguettes
Australia589 Posts
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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SaftKalasEmil
Sweden213 Posts
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ondik
Czech Republic2908 Posts
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micronesia
United States24805 Posts
On April 10 2010 15:56 Stropheum wrote: They were the ones that caused a lot of people to make a lot of money illegally The gambling was illegal to begin with right? What crime did the progamer commit? I'm not saying they can't get into trouble legally but I just can't figure out the exact charges they would be brought under (I'm also not at all familiar with Korean law) | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On April 10 2010 22:03 ondik wrote: great, right when I put Luxury in my FPL :/ hes not in the A-team anyways.. (maybe because of this but you shouldve checked that either way :p) | ||
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Kage
India788 Posts
What is interesting is that the possibility of shady betting (japan, korea are notorious for this) but the lack of strong evidence or conclusion. This is genius way of presentation and engagement. Is this an easy way to say to hide players' incompetency? Could players have gone to court without anyone knowing? Was it that well hidden? Are Rekruls sources wrong? There is only one way to find out. Artosis. You are our man. If you can't do it then no one can. | ||
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Asjo
Denmark664 Posts
On April 10 2010 15:56 Stropheum wrote: They were the ones that caused a lot of people to make a lot of money illegally That argument doesn't really make any sense. He would have been the cause of that no matter whether he won/lost on purpose. I think micronesia's doubts about this seem fairly intelligent, actually. The court cannot really control the actions of people in this way. They can do whatever the fuck they want when the compete, and, as I see it, the only way they could be incrimated by something like this was if they signed a contract which took this into account. Well, in a big Korean Warcraft 3 league, MBC's Prime League, one of the main programmers was editing maps (where you can define all the details of units, buildings, research, etc.) to favour certain races or people, trying to even out the game's imbalance and keep the crowds entertained. DayFly, one of the best WC3 players to date, found out and exposed it. It turns out it had been going on for a long time and that DayFly had actually been one of the main beneficiaries of this (even though he had retired before exposing it). I remember that it was big, but I never recall thinking of it as detrimental to the scene. Found a link so that you can see the details: MBC Map Scandal Update Interesting read, actually. I remember there was some talk about this, but never saw it blown up like it apparently was on Gotfrag. Obviously, people knew the Koreans might not be terribly serious in a foreign tournament, but Calm and Hwasin in fact planned out the games instead of just playing them straight up, it kind of seems to break the spirit of the tournament. Not that the result was of deciding importance, but just that the tournament ends up with a final where the players are actually acting rather than playing, turning it into kind of a farce. Funnily, I remember that this was the tournament where I first saw Calm play. I have hugely impressed by him (while completely unimpressed by Hwasin) and I remember commenting here that I thought it was a great player and would do it. Not long after he started being one of the better players in Korea, even though lately he's gone down a notch again. And even if they fixed the games, they were still quite entertaining to watch, so it wasn't all bad. | ||
Elyvilon
United States13143 Posts
On April 10 2010 16:10 Milkis wrote: Will translate important bits in a second. They're postings from sports betting communities. First Image: Sounds like an official that is posting about the Bogus - Savior match, which they seem to be very very certain that it was rigged. The last underlined bit talks about Bisu in that they think Bisu's matches that day also seemed a bit more rigged, but The Bogus - Savior game was something they actually got a report on. Second Image: Someone just talking about the logistics of it. Things in parenthesis are context Third Image: Someone posting that "Police are finally taking action" against Starcraft Betting Fourth Image: The Cafe Staff warning about Betting in games by UpMaGic, YellOw[ArnC], Luxury, because "everyone knows" there are forces behind planning their games. Saddening, but interesting. Thanks for this translation. | ||
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