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On April 10 2010 22:53 Asjo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2010 15:59 Alaric wrote:On April 10 2010 15:49 PanoRaMa wrote:
Just look at the War3 progaming scene after the whole map-fixing scandal. What ? I mean, can you explain a bit ? Well, in a big Korean Warcraft 3 league, Prime League, one of the main programmers was editing maps (where you can define all the details of units, buildings, research, etc.) to favour certain races or people, trying to even out the game's imbalance and keep the crowds entertained. DayFly, one of the best WC3 players to date, found out and exposed it. It turns out it had been going on for a long time and that DayFly had actually been one of the main beneficiaries of this (even though he had retired before exposing it). I remember that it was big, but I never recall thinking of it as detrimental to the scene. Found a link so that you can see the details: MBC Map Scandal Update
Thanks for the details.
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United States22883 Posts
On April 10 2010 15:41 NeoOmega wrote:
By the way if Rekrul is lying he deserves to be banned. However I cannot think of a decent reason for him to actually lie. He has nothing to gain and could lose his entire reputation here. (OK he may not give a shit about his reputation but its defiantly more than nothing.)
Basically either Rekrul is telling the truth or he is a far bigger asshole than anyone give him credit.
Or he's an ass and he's being truthful?
Honestly, KwarK brought it up in the very beginning. Even if Rekrul were full of shit (which I doubt,) there's betting in SC and where ever you find betting, you'll find attempts at match fixing. In Korea and in SC, the conditions happen to be prime for it.
I hadn't really considered it before but now that I am, even without complete evidence, I'd be shocked if match fixing weren't going on.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
This thread is the perfect example of terrible posting by a shit ton of you. I'm glad you didn't post that list rek, these people don't deserve it.
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On April 10 2010 23:18 Plexa wrote:
This thread is the perfect example of terrible posting by a shit ton of you. I'm glad you didn't post that list rek, these people don't deserve it.
I've never really heard you sound this egotistical elitist. "These people"?
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On April 10 2010 23:18 Plexa wrote:
This thread is the perfect example of terrible posting by a shit ton of you. I'm glad you didn't post that list rek, these people don't deserve it.
Rofl you can not blame people for being retards when someone they have no idea who he is makes a claim that sounds absolutely unbeliveable to their ears. Did you expect people to just say "Oh. I no longer love Savior the same way I did. Time to move on then!"?
Savior being involved rapes my mind, now just tell me Boxer was the main guy behind this and I am going to never touch the korean pro scene again. 
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
On April 10 2010 23:24 Puosu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2010 23:18 Plexa wrote:
This thread is the perfect example of terrible posting by a shit ton of you. I'm glad you didn't post that list rek, these people don't deserve it. Rofl you can not blame people for being retards when someone they have no idea who he is makes a claim that sounds absolutely unbeliveable to their ears. Did you expect people to just say "Oh. I no longer love Savior the same way I did. Time to move on then!"? Savior being involved rapes my mind, now just tell me Boxer was the main guy behind this and I am going to never touch the korean pro scene again.
they were just desperately saying what they thought would provoke me into giving them everything, but forgot who they were dealing with
and, savior is the biggest culprit, he is going to burn at the stake in this witchhunt
i still don't know a lot, but when i do (within a day or 2) expect a rekrul video blog! you guys (the fans) deserve to know no matter how retarded you all seem to be when u try to reason out 'why rekrul may or may not be lying'
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On April 10 2010 23:21 motbob wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2010 23:18 Plexa wrote:
This thread is the perfect example of terrible posting by a shit ton of you. I'm glad you didn't post that list rek, these people don't deserve it. I've never really heard you sound this egotistical elitist. "These people"? Go back and read through the thread. Too many morons for my liking.
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Sounds really intense now...but how long can the higher-ups keep this quiet? So many famous players are at stake...are they just going to try fob this off with an apology and pretend to let it go away?
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
On April 10 2010 23:32 Fish_Baguettes wrote:
Sounds really intense now...but how long can the higher-ups keep this quiet? So many famous players are at stake...are they just going to try fob this off with an apology and pretend to let it go away?
definitely not
this is going to be HUUUUUGE
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On April 10 2010 23:18 Plexa wrote:
This thread is the perfect example of terrible posting by a shit ton of you. I'm glad you didn't post that list rek, these people don't deserve it.
Quality post.
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post the list you goddamn pussy, and tell a funny story while you're at it
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
man some of my korean friends have known about this for months
WHY DIDNT THEY FUCKING TELL ME BACK THEN SO I COULD HAVE BLACK MAILED THE FUCK OUT OF SAVIOR FOR ATLEAST HALF HIS PROFITS
then i could have bought all the boji cars and not have to worry about which one is best!
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On April 10 2010 23:36 Rekrul wrote:man some of my korean friends have known about this for months WHY DIDNT THEY FUCKING TELL ME BACK THEN SO I COULD HAVE BLACK MAILED THE FUCK OUT OF SAVIOR FOR ATLEAST HALF HIS PROFITS then i could have bought all the boji cars and not have to worry about which one is best!
Those are some pretty big profits O_O
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On April 10 2010 23:36 Rekrul wrote:man some of my korean friends have known about this for months WHY DIDNT THEY FUCKING TELL ME BACK THEN SO I COULD HAVE BLACK MAILED THE FUCK OUT OF SAVIOR FOR ATLEAST HALF HIS PROFITS then i could have bought all the boji cars and not have to worry about which one is best!
You said before this would be a wound that SC programing scene could heal and grow from - but what do u think are the risks of it totally destroying most of the fanbase with the revealing of the players? I mean atm we still eagerly await news, but will it strike to the heart of SC legends such as Boxer, Yellow, NaDa?
Can we even begin to imagine the scope that the match-fixing has infiltrated into SC?
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
On April 10 2010 23:39 Fish_Baguettes wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2010 23:36 Rekrul wrote:man some of my korean friends have known about this for months WHY DIDNT THEY FUCKING TELL ME BACK THEN SO I COULD HAVE BLACK MAILED THE FUCK OUT OF SAVIOR FOR ATLEAST HALF HIS PROFITS then i could have bought all the boji cars and not have to worry about which one is best! You said before this would be a wound that SC programing scene could heal and grow from - but what do u think are the risks of it totally destroying most of the fanbase with the revealing of the players? I mean atm we still eagerly await news, but will it strike to the heart of SC legends such as Boxer, Yellow, NaDa? Can we even begin to imagine the scope that the match-fixing has infiltrated into SC?
it's better to know the players involved rather than being suspicious of everyone
and afaik legends like boxer etc r not involved
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On April 10 2010 23:42 Rekrul wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2010 23:39 Fish_Baguettes wrote:On April 10 2010 23:36 Rekrul wrote:man some of my korean friends have known about this for months WHY DIDNT THEY FUCKING TELL ME BACK THEN SO I COULD HAVE BLACK MAILED THE FUCK OUT OF SAVIOR FOR ATLEAST HALF HIS PROFITS then i could have bought all the boji cars and not have to worry about which one is best! You said before this would be a wound that SC programing scene could heal and grow from - but what do u think are the risks of it totally destroying most of the fanbase with the revealing of the players? I mean atm we still eagerly await news, but will it strike to the heart of SC legends such as Boxer, Yellow, NaDa? Can we even begin to imagine the scope that the match-fixing has infiltrated into SC? it's better to know the players involved rather than being suspicious of everyone and afaik legends like boxer etc r not involved
My heart is at ease for now - and i can also now stop refreshing this page every 5 seconds and go to sleep. Thanks for the quick replies!
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On April 10 2010 23:42 Rekrul wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2010 23:39 Fish_Baguettes wrote:On April 10 2010 23:36 Rekrul wrote:man some of my korean friends have known about this for months WHY DIDNT THEY FUCKING TELL ME BACK THEN SO I COULD HAVE BLACK MAILED THE FUCK OUT OF SAVIOR FOR ATLEAST HALF HIS PROFITS then i could have bought all the boji cars and not have to worry about which one is best! You said before this would be a wound that SC programing scene could heal and grow from - but what do u think are the risks of it totally destroying most of the fanbase with the revealing of the players? I mean atm we still eagerly await news, but will it strike to the heart of SC legends such as Boxer, Yellow, NaDa? Can we even begin to imagine the scope that the match-fixing has infiltrated into SC? it's better to know the players involved rather than being suspicious of everyone and afaik legends like boxer etc r not involved
Can i ask about Flash? is he tarnished by this aswell?
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On April 10 2010 23:18 Plexa wrote:
This thread is the perfect example of terrible posting by a shit ton of you. I'm glad you didn't post that list rek, these people don't deserve it.
You're blaming people for being skeptical?
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On April 10 2010 23:48 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2010 23:42 Rekrul wrote:On April 10 2010 23:39 Fish_Baguettes wrote:On April 10 2010 23:36 Rekrul wrote:man some of my korean friends have known about this for months WHY DIDNT THEY FUCKING TELL ME BACK THEN SO I COULD HAVE BLACK MAILED THE FUCK OUT OF SAVIOR FOR ATLEAST HALF HIS PROFITS then i could have bought all the boji cars and not have to worry about which one is best! You said before this would be a wound that SC programing scene could heal and grow from - but what do u think are the risks of it totally destroying most of the fanbase with the revealing of the players? I mean atm we still eagerly await news, but will it strike to the heart of SC legends such as Boxer, Yellow, NaDa? Can we even begin to imagine the scope that the match-fixing has infiltrated into SC? it's better to know the players involved rather than being suspicious of everyone and afaik legends like boxer etc r not involved Can i ask about Flash? is he tarnished by this aswell?
Oh, come on, man. Is there a single game in Flash's career that even remotely looks like it could have been thrown?
(...besides the PL All-Star game vs Savior where he was nuking  )
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On April 10 2010 23:50 motbob wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2010 23:48 Scaramanga wrote:On April 10 2010 23:42 Rekrul wrote:On April 10 2010 23:39 Fish_Baguettes wrote:On April 10 2010 23:36 Rekrul wrote:man some of my korean friends have known about this for months WHY DIDNT THEY FUCKING TELL ME BACK THEN SO I COULD HAVE BLACK MAILED THE FUCK OUT OF SAVIOR FOR ATLEAST HALF HIS PROFITS then i could have bought all the boji cars and not have to worry about which one is best! You said before this would be a wound that SC programing scene could heal and grow from - but what do u think are the risks of it totally destroying most of the fanbase with the revealing of the players? I mean atm we still eagerly await news, but will it strike to the heart of SC legends such as Boxer, Yellow, NaDa? Can we even begin to imagine the scope that the match-fixing has infiltrated into SC? it's better to know the players involved rather than being suspicious of everyone and afaik legends like boxer etc r not involved Can i ask about Flash? is he tarnished by this aswell? Oh, come on, man. Is there a single game in Flash's career that even remotely looks like it could have been thrown? (...besides the PL All-Star game vs Savior where he was nuking )
Nah but i still want to know, don't really care about other players but i'd like to know about flash
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