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knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-23 04:09:25
March 23 2010 04:05 GMT
#1
Oh my god I am so irritated with this matchup. Why can I not win this T.T
It makes me really wish there is a seperate ELO for each of your matchups because my PvZ just isn't on par with my other 2. If anyone can help me with this matchup in any way (Zerg partner or Protoss that can give PvZ advice)I would be super grateful. I realize other people are also having problems with this matchup but this is ridiculous. I can without a doubt say I'm having a harder time PvZ in sc2 then TvP in SC1. At least when I was losing TvP, my other matchups sucked almost as bad.

So record is 51-42 platinum #11.
3-26 in PvZ with a win over charliemurphy (lol) and a hatch first zerg that died to 2gate on vertical positions metalopolis.
8-2 in placing matches

So that is 40- 14 in my other two matchups + 4 games as Terran.

Any streams or replays you can help would be greatly appreciated. I watched orb's stream a few times. Also, I watched Xlord and Nazgul's replays from that one tournament but that's all.
So I guess since I've been whining a ton I should make this blog worth reading. Here's an image report of my game vs Charliemurphy because I can.

40 images in the spoiler
+ Show Spoiler +

Game starts. No gl for you zerg
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Zerg gets a spawning pool. I feel at a loss already
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Fancy
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Fearsome sized zerg army. Able to crush any kind of 1 base play from protoss
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Good try charlie. 3 roaches are almost as strong as 3 cannons but not quite
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I have expansion yet he doesn't. Should be easy game no?
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Spire. That's all that needs to be said
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Sentries because everything else dies.
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Moveout time. +50 supply on zerg. Easy win right?
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I thought force fields were a good idea at the time.
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Double supply on the zerg. Should be GG?
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No
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115 vs 28. What the fuck
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WTF storm?
Roaches highlighted for entire battle
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Fuck that. Same roaches just burrowed for a few seconds to heal
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A little while later
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How did you lose this? You had half my supply for half the game. How did you stay in as long as you did? Roaches
Yes lucky me. Thank you for my 3rd PvZ win bolstering my win rate to around 10%.


That's all folks


***
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
March 23 2010 04:09 GMT
#2
Wow, you make me so jealous
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
March 23 2010 04:09 GMT
#3
So storms r worthless I guess.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
SC2Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2814 Posts
March 23 2010 04:13 GMT
#4
Yea storm are absolutly worthless verus roaches.
Who the fuck has a family of fucking trees? This song is so god damn stupid. Fuck you song, fuck you and your stupid trees. -itmeJP
404.Delirium
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1190 Posts
March 23 2010 04:22 GMT
#5
this was really entertaining, haha. I want to see CM's response ;p

I wouldn't mind seeing the replay. Nice overlord creep from CM as shown on minimap.
seriously next disrespectful comment in this blog is ip ban. Be happy or get the hell out. // SC2 is like playing with neutral-colored Play-Doh while BW is like colorful Legos.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
March 23 2010 04:29 GMT
#6
On March 23 2010 13:09 MuffinDude wrote:
So storms r worthless I guess.


i beg to differ. Go watch orbs stream.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
March 23 2010 04:35 GMT
#7
Storms win me my PvT so I love em. But 10 storms should kill a small group of roaches no problem.

Also point of this thread was to ask for pvz help
Nal_rAwr
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2611 Posts
March 23 2010 04:36 GMT
#8
lol charlie murphy
Nony is Bonjwa
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
March 23 2010 04:54 GMT
#9
I think that storms should stack so as to pwn roaches :/
Hey! Listen!
Raydog
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States632 Posts
March 23 2010 05:04 GMT
#10
I actually find PvZ as one of my easier matchups. Instead of going for such an early expansion, why not do 1 base play with 2 warpgates/robo making zealot stalker sentry immortal army, and push with that when the time is right (scouting with observers to see opportune timings). That has worked really well for me so far.
Shew
Exteray
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1094 Posts
March 23 2010 05:11 GMT
#11
I can be your practice partner if you want...
I play P and Z and i'm Plat top 30..
PM me if you wanna practice
Retsukage
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1002 Posts
March 23 2010 05:29 GMT
#12
PVZ is quiet hard for the P atm, its just really hard for the toss to keep up with a zerg who has good unit production. Spawn larva is really powerfull.
To change is to improve, to change often is to be perfect - Winston Chruchill
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-23 05:45:16
March 23 2010 05:34 GMT
#13
My comment was in reference to how bad you were playing against roaches, and the fact that I was scouting around at EVERY base and I even thought that I scouted the base in between us but apparently I didn't. I knew I wouldn't lose if I just denied you from expanding again (which my lings were doing every few minutes on the top left areas). Once you got that base up (which was another example of bad playing, what good player tries to expand 2 inches from the enemy?), you just won with overwhelming forces, even though you were inferior player.
So yea, unlucky scouting from me because you massed like 2009320932 templar/zealot versus roaches. Everyone and their mom knows that you counter roach with robotech (or even stalkers) and that storm doesn't do shit. Also the fact that you are 3-26 in pvz and are 100 to 30 food supply and not winning a game is exactly what I meant by that comment. I played badly, and shouldn't have lost. gg

PS- What's with all these people posting threads with links to reps/or whatever where they won vs me? Just post it in the rep thread like everyone else.
no one gives a fuck, and you are a stupid trying to catch some e-fame. Guess what, I'm not even 'great', in fact most people only know me from infamy and no one really cares about me in the first place. (this is literally like the 3rd or 4th thread)
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
March 23 2010 05:48 GMT
#14
Actually his 3rd base seems to be in a good spot based on the match up since he can reinforce it with his main army very quickly compared to bases on the other side of the map just being reinforced by warp gated units quickly.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
March 23 2010 05:50 GMT
#15
On March 23 2010 14:48 Alventenie wrote:
Actually his 3rd base seems to be in a good spot based on the match up since he can reinforce it with his main army very quickly compared to bases on the other side of the map just being reinforced by warp gated units quickly.


If I had scouted it, it would have died before he got up 10000 canons, you can see in the screenshots how badly his zeal/temp army did vs a handful of roaches and lings.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-23 06:15:42
March 23 2010 06:15 GMT
#16
On March 23 2010 13:22 404.Delirium wrote:
this was really entertaining, haha. I want to see CM's response ;p

I wouldn't mind seeing the replay. Nice overlord creep from CM as shown on minimap.

yea, his screen shots are kind of misleading/biased so here it is.
http://www.mediafire.com/?nkwomk02mnm
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-23 06:54:45
March 23 2010 06:53 GMT
#17
OH DUDE
RIVALS CLASH
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
March 23 2010 06:58 GMT
#18
HOLY SHIT YOU BEAT CM? someone give this man a cookie. no!... a medal!!!

seriously though, this is pretty unwarranted. it's not even a very good game.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
March 23 2010 07:06 GMT
#19
wtf did this become. it was supposed to be humorous. just wanted to turn a whine thread into a whine + some pictures.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
March 23 2010 07:38 GMT
#20
sorry I didn't mean to snap but this is literally like the 4th time it's happened. I dunno
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
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