Oh my god I am so irritated with this matchup. Why can I not win this T.T
It makes me really wish there is a seperate ELO for each of your matchups because my PvZ just isn't on par with my other 2. If anyone can help me with this matchup in any way (Zerg partner or Protoss that can give PvZ advice)I would be super grateful. I realize other people are also having problems with this matchup but this is ridiculous. I can without a doubt say I'm having a harder time PvZ in sc2 then TvP in SC1. At least when I was losing TvP, my other matchups sucked almost as bad.

So record is 51-42 platinum #11.
3-26 in PvZ with a win over charliemurphy (lol) and a hatch first zerg that died to 2gate on vertical positions metalopolis.
8-2 in placing matches

So that is 40- 14 in my other two matchups + 4 games as Terran.

Any streams or replays you can help would be greatly appreciated. I watched orb's stream a few times. Also, I watched Xlord and Nazgul's replays from that one tournament but that's all.
So I guess since I've been whining a ton I should make this blog worth reading. Here's an image report of my game vs Charliemurphy because I can.

40 images in the spoiler
+ Show Spoiler +

Game starts. No gl for you zerg

Zerg gets a spawning pool. I feel at a loss already

Fancy

Fearsome sized zerg army. Able to crush any kind of 1 base play from protoss

Good try charlie. 3 roaches are almost as strong as 3 cannons but not quite

I have expansion yet he doesn't. Should be easy game no?

Spire. That's all that needs to be said

Sentries because everything else dies.

Moveout time. +50 supply on zerg. Easy win right?

I thought force fields were a good idea at the time.

Double supply on the zerg. Should be GG?

115 vs 28. What the fuck

WTF storm?
Roaches highlighted for entire battle
1

Fuck that. Same roaches just burrowed for a few seconds to heal

A little while later

How did you lose this? You had half my supply for half the game. How did you stay in as long as you did? Roaches
Yes lucky me. Thank you for my 3rd PvZ win bolstering my win rate to around 10%.

That's all folks

il0seonpurpose

Korea (South)5638 Posts

March 23 2010 04:09 GMT

Wow, you make me so jealous

MuffinDude

United States3837 Posts

March 23 2010 04:09 GMT

So storms r worthless I guess.

SC2Phoenix

Canada2814 Posts

March 23 2010 04:13 GMT

Yea storm are absolutly worthless verus roaches.

404.Delirium

United States1190 Posts

March 23 2010 04:22 GMT

this was really entertaining, haha. I want to see CM's response ;p

I wouldn't mind seeing the replay. Nice overlord creep from CM as shown on minimap.

StorrZerg

United States13919 Posts

March 23 2010 04:29 GMT

On March 23 2010 13:09 MuffinDude wrote:
So storms r worthless I guess.

i beg to differ. Go watch orbs stream.

knyttym

United States5797 Posts

March 23 2010 04:35 GMT

Storms win me my PvT so I love em. But 10 storms should kill a small group of roaches no problem.

Also point of this thread was to ask for pvz help

Nal_rAwr

United States2611 Posts

March 23 2010 04:36 GMT

lol charlie murphy

Navi

5286 Posts

March 23 2010 04:54 GMT

I think that storms should stack so as to pwn roaches :/

Raydog

United States632 Posts

March 23 2010 05:04 GMT

#10

I actually find PvZ as one of my easier matchups. Instead of going for such an early expansion, why not do 1 base play with 2 warpgates/robo making zealot stalker sentry immortal army, and push with that when the time is right (scouting with observers to see opportune timings). That has worked really well for me so far.

Exteray

United States1094 Posts

March 23 2010 05:11 GMT

#11

I can be your practice partner if you want...
I play P and Z and i'm Plat top 30..
PM me if you wanna practice

Retsukage

United States1002 Posts

March 23 2010 05:29 GMT

#12

PVZ is quiet hard for the P atm, its just really hard for the toss to keep up with a zerg who has good unit production. Spawn larva is really powerfull.

CharlieMurphy

United States22895 Posts

March 23 2010 05:34 GMT

#13

My comment was in reference to how bad you were playing against roaches, and the fact that I was scouting around at EVERY base and I even thought that I scouted the base in between us but apparently I didn't. I knew I wouldn't lose if I just denied you from expanding again (which my lings were doing every few minutes on the top left areas). Once you got that base up (which was another example of bad playing, what good player tries to expand 2 inches from the enemy?), you just won with overwhelming forces, even though you were inferior player.
So yea, unlucky scouting from me because you massed like 2009320932 templar/zealot versus roaches. Everyone and their mom knows that you counter roach with robotech (or even stalkers) and that storm doesn't do shit. Also the fact that you are 3-26 in pvz and are 100 to 30 food supply and not winning a game is exactly what I meant by that comment. I played badly, and shouldn't have lost. gg

PS- What's with all these people posting threads with links to reps/or whatever where they won vs me? Just post it in the rep thread like everyone else.
no one gives a fuck, and you are a stupid trying to catch some e-fame. Guess what, I'm not even 'great', in fact most people only know me from infamy and no one really cares about me in the first place. (this is literally like the 3rd or 4th thread)

Alventenie

United States2147 Posts

March 23 2010 05:48 GMT

#14

Actually his 3rd base seems to be in a good spot based on the match up since he can reinforce it with his main army very quickly compared to bases on the other side of the map just being reinforced by warp gated units quickly.

CharlieMurphy

United States22895 Posts

March 23 2010 05:50 GMT

#15

On March 23 2010 14:48 Alventenie wrote:
Actually his 3rd base seems to be in a good spot based on the match up since he can reinforce it with his main army very quickly compared to bases on the other side of the map just being reinforced by warp gated units quickly.

If I had scouted it, it would have died before he got up 10000 canons, you can see in the screenshots how badly his zeal/temp army did vs a handful of roaches and lings.

CharlieMurphy

United States22895 Posts

March 23 2010 06:15 GMT

#16

On March 23 2010 13:22 404.Delirium wrote:
this was really entertaining, haha. I want to see CM's response ;p

I wouldn't mind seeing the replay. Nice overlord creep from CM as shown on minimap.

yea, his screen shots are kind of misleading/biased so here it is.
http://www.mediafire.com/?nkwomk02mnm

OmgIRok

Taiwan2699 Posts

March 23 2010 06:53 GMT

#17

OH DUDE
RIVALS CLASH

Grobyc

Canada18410 Posts

March 23 2010 06:58 GMT

#18

HOLY SHIT YOU BEAT CM? someone give this man a cookie. no!... a medal!!!

seriously though, this is pretty unwarranted. it's not even a very good game.