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On March 13 2010 17:12 Megalisk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2010 16:30 ggrrg wrote:I fail to see the difference between Constitutional republic and Representative democracy!? Actually, a constitutional republic is a form of (representative) democracy. So I do no see a problem with this change (I do not see any reason to do it either...). However, the rest of the (proposed) changes range between dumb and severily retarded... You seriously have some really messed up people in your country... Texas has made me politically apathetic.I fucking love it here in Houston, but damn the people running the place are annoying. They're a bunch of bible clinging old fashioned people who can't leap into the modern world.
District 14 is where it's at :p
Debra Medina and Ron Paul. Personally, though every state has a fucked up educational system, especially when most of the curriculum comes from the Feds anyways.
I'll take New Hampshire, SSI, and Libertopia :p
As for the changes...a State is a State. All forms of the State turn into tyranny. Makes no difference what you call it. As for the Philosopher change. How great...taking Thomas Jefferson out. Stupid bitches lol. Thomas Aquinas was two hundred years before the Enlightenment, and if you are going to teach Aquina's do so for the Just War Theory, which obviously these people most likely do not believe in.
If I was going to start a school I'd teach:
Locke
Voltaire
Jefferson
Bastiat
Paine
Kant
For Enlightenment / Classical Liberal views.
Bah GOP is a bunch of trash. 98% of the country wants power. Gimme some NH loving.
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On March 14 2010 18:01 Comeh wrote:
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait
They removed Thomas Jefferson?
So, they argue that America was founded on christian ideals, and for everyone that this didn't apply to 100% they delete from the history books?
1984, anyone?
To be fair I'm sure you will find more 1984 in California, Massachussets, and Oregon. :p
The overly religious are as tyrannous as the humanists (Communists). America was founded upon Radical Classical Liberal ideals.
Edit: It's also funny that the HF would praise Jefferson. The people over at Huffington Post HATE absolutely HATE the ideals Jefferson stood for.
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This is crazy. The history should start with the native Americans and move forward until you hit the date the book was printed. I don't care it it's too much to cover, just start teaching it earlier. When teaching history nothing/no one of any significance should be left out. I'm glad I finished school back when we had to learn about Thomas Jefferson.
great Jefferson quote.
“A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take away everything you have.”
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On March 16 2010 02:56 Zack1900 wrote:
This is crazy. The history should start with the native Americans and move forward until you hit the date the book was printed. I don't care it it's too much to cover, just start teaching it earlier. When teaching history nothing/no one of any significance should be left out.
Think back to school. Did you ever once get close to covering everything in those big ass books??
I mean, that doesn't change the fact that this is an amazingly stupid and disgusting proposal.... but yeah. Just sayin.
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This is so crazy, when i watched movies like Straship Troopers or the Babylon 5 series in the nineties the tv-news and the education was always a hilarious part. Watch FOX news 10 years later and it has at least a very similar intonation. That some interest groups are seemingly succeding in diverting the education system so that it teaches a history that leads to their ideal conception lets this look frighteningly more like last century's fiction.
Taking this in together with the image of martial obsession that parts of the US culture exhibit makes me cringe. The US still are the standard against which a big part of the world measures itself. Get your stuff together please^^.
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On March 14 2010 18:19 Rothbardian wrote:
The overly religious are as tyrannous as the humanists (Communists).
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On March 16 2010 02:56 Zack1900 wrote:
This is crazy. The history should start with the native Americans and move forward until you hit the date the book was printed. I don't care it it's too much to cover, just start teaching it earlier. When teaching history nothing/no one of any significance should be left out. I'm glad I finished school back when we had to learn about Thomas Jefferson.
great Jefferson quote.
“A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take away everything you have.”
Jefferson? You mean Gerald Ford.
It is attributed to Jefferson because the name of the most average president in history doesn't really look good on a bumper sticker.
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On March 16 2010 05:47 aqui wrote:
This is so crazy, when i watched movies like Straship Troopers or the Babylon 5 series in the nineties the tv-news and the education was always a hilarious part. Watch FOX news 10 years later and it has at least a very similar intonation. That some interest groups are seemingly succeding in diverting the education system so that it teaches a history that leads to their ideal conception lets this look frighteningly more like last century's fiction.
Taking this in together with the image of martial obsession that parts of the US culture exhibit makes me cringe. The US still are the standard against which a big part of the world measures itself. Get your stuff together please^^.
The Media has been Orwellian since forever. Go back to the 40's and read some H.L. Mencken. Go back to the Woodrow Wilson and read the war propaganda peddled by the media. Go even further back to Mark Twain and read some of his stuff.
As for the education system, as soon as it was taken over by the Government things deteriorated forevermore. As long as we are talking about Jefferson, here is one of my favorite quotes from him:
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Generally, in our educational system the Government is exalted, and liberty is antagonized and demonized. They purposefully leave out much in American History, shedding secession in a horrible light (Even though we seceeded from Britain), bypassing the Kentucky/Virginia Resolutions of 1798, and praising the MIC. They never talk about how the US never had a standing army until after the 'Civil War', or how in the Constitution it expressly forbids a standing army during peacetime, and during war, can only be constituted for at most two years at a time.
They don't talk about Common Sense much, they don't ever talk about the Sons of Liberty, and they hardly go over the Articles of Confederation or the Anti-Federalists.
No brainer though. Government is their own self-interest, and they run the educational system in this country. They never talk about Lysander Spooner and the feud with the Postal Service which he dominated. They talk about "Robber Barons", negating to talk about the massive growth in standards of living, wealth, and prosperity. I could go on and on.
If you live in the South you will get more religious and war-mongering tones in School. If you live in the North you will get more secular, and more Welfarist-Statist tones. Generally. However, one thing is uniform across the country, the State is always exalted in some form or another. Not to mention that the "rules" on School grounds destroy our natural rights / Bill of Rights. It's like a school-ground is not American soil, and where the rule of man is absolute, sans Guantanamo.
Students are also taught to be obedient. To conform. Individuality is extinguished. Creativity is obliterated. You are a statistic in school. It is also mandatory.
Land of the Free my ass.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/16/texas-schools-rewrites-us-history
So, it's being passed.
It kind of makes me lose hope in humanity 
I'm glad most americans on teamliquid.net are good people.
Maybe I should've made a new topic instead? I don't really expect the OP to be updated.
What upsets me the most, but I can see that it's not the biggest deal in the US, is the move from evolution to 'intelligent design' because it's so f*cking stupid. What I don't understand is how something like replacing 'Slavery' with 'Atlantic triangular trade' can be accepted in the US.
EDIT: Oh, this was a blog. I'm making a thread :D
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