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LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3024 Posts
March 02 2010 03:42 GMT
#21
On March 01 2010 09:28 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
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On February 28 2010 20:32 LG)Sabbath wrote:
BTW another issue is vessel micro. Is it just really hard to irradiate with 6+ vessels or is there something I'm missing? I have to take a long time to find the vessel that has 75 energy... god forbid I get attacked while I'm at it, my stuff will just die.

PS. thanks for the help!


Even Flash struggles to micro vessels perfectly. Try to scan the area you're moving to in advance, as the current trend has Zerg units hanging out with defilers at crucial map locations. From there you can just clone the vessels. In actual battles, it's just reaction time & micro. Remember it's far more important to save your marine force than to irradiate a bunch of lurkers, but irradiating defilers is top priority, cuz you can definitely make more marines

Yeah I was talking about using irradiate while in battle. Like, zerg moving in, you have to irradiate his defilers while dodging hydra/scourge and not letting your army die horribly.
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YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-02 03:55:15
March 02 2010 03:54 GMT
#22
yes im unbanned!!

but yes TvZ is all mechanics, i doubt there's any good trick except knowing when to stop microing and macro, often times players get carried awayy with microing the battle and forget to macro and just watch the battle which is completely useless.
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17731 Posts
March 02 2010 04:25 GMT
#23
On February 28 2010 16:13 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Really's SK is lacking. The Terrans who can consistently macro an SK build are Flash, Sea[Shield], Hwasin, and Canata on a good day (which are few and far between)

Puma has the mechanical ability, but will lose to better zergs through inferior decision-making and micro, so he's hardly relevant.

would think ruby is up there too
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
March 02 2010 04:46 GMT
#24
Ruby is definitely one of those Terrans that can macro an SK build. He's pretty famous for loving to play brute force macro games, and he can definitely macro up scary scary armies in the midgame-lategame.

It's just that he likes to smash into fights with abandon, and even though it's scary because of his strong macro and love for big lategame fights, his tendency to just hurl his forces makes him lose games.

Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17731 Posts
March 02 2010 05:07 GMT
#25
^ the first game on holy water was a better example
Wtf killing zerg's 3rd gas and then attacking lurkers with only rines losing them all and getting swarmed at your nat.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
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