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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33465 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-18 06:17:34
February 18 2010 06:16 GMT
#1
After playing 30 odd games of SC2 beta in a row, I recollect my first impressions.



1: FUCKERS CHANGED THE HOTKEYS (this doesnt bother me so much anymore)


2: Goddammit, workers are smart now. This is where I really felt like I was playing a new, different game. I set my probe to harass an scv, or a drone, or whatever it was, and my opponent responded by taking a peon off to attack my scout.

I clicked him around the base a little, noticing that holy shit, his peon was chipping away at my scout's HP pretty effectively though slowly, like a lazy zergling. It was actually a little bit of work to keep my poor probe alive.


3: Winning with zealot rush is still awesome.


PS: I'm gonna use my blog to dump my half assed thoughts in between writing real articles for TL, so don't expect much refinement here.

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AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
February 18 2010 06:20 GMT
#2
Yeah, 2 gate zealot is strong in PvP since you can't micro stalkers as effectively as goons.
Hotkey changes are annoying, until the beta allows us to customize our layouts.
I want my P to Probe/Pylon, M for Marines, O for Overlords.
Venture Capital is better off spent on lottery tickets rather than investing in E-Sports; you'll get a far better return. The difference is simple: Koreans are tryharding at the game, foreigners are tryharding in real-life.
ejac
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1195 Posts
February 18 2010 06:22 GMT
#3
Yeah, they changed the hotkeys, but they're better. I always hated pressing P for probe and pylon and O for overlord. They were way too out of the way.

Its always funny watching people stream and control their workers like they would from sc1 when they don't need to.

Zealot rushes will always be awesome, make sure you're using the nexus ability to make them build faster.
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-18 06:25:44
February 18 2010 06:23 GMT
#4
I wonder who thought it was a good idea to have Siege Mode set to E and Un-siege set to D.......
Same with the viking - Land set to D, Lift off set to E. Tilt.

EDIT: Actually, this makes sense .. sort of. If I have 10 tanks selected, 5 sieged and 5 unsieged... I can now siege/unsiege easily (like if I want 10 unsieged, I just click D).
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-18 06:26:16
February 18 2010 06:25 GMT
#5
I can see that being useful when you have both sieged and unsieged tanks selected. Still kinda silly though :p
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
February 18 2010 06:26 GMT
#6
Yeahhhhhhhh, thought of it just when you posted :D
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-18 06:26:44
February 18 2010 06:26 GMT
#7
On February 18 2010 15:25 SonuvBob wrote:
I can see that being useful when you have both sieged and unsieged tanks selected.

Good point. I forgot about that as opposed to having unsiege be the default. At least they have unseiging/landing as D since it is 'lower' than E.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
February 18 2010 06:34 GMT
#8
On February 18 2010 15:23 FrozenArbiter wrote:
I wonder who thought it was a good idea to have Siege Mode set to E and Un-siege set to D.......
Same with the viking - Land set to D, Lift off set to E. Tilt.

EDIT: Actually, this makes sense .. sort of. If I have 10 tanks selected, 5 sieged and 5 unsieged... I can now siege/unsiege easily (like if I want 10 unsieged, I just click D).

really? i think that change is so incredibly good, both the mixed groups and i know ive lost games from hitting o twice and ending up with my tanks idling for 3 seconds as they siege and then unsiege again.
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Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
February 18 2010 06:35 GMT
#9
in before hitting wrong button joke
why so 진지해?
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24721 Posts
February 18 2010 06:44 GMT
#10
On February 18 2010 15:16 Waxangel wrote:
1: FUCKERS CHANGED THE HOTKEYS (this doesnt bother me so much anymore)

This is gonna drive me crazy. Learning all the shortcut keys in bw was a fair bit of work... and now you have to UNLEARN a lot of them and use new ones...
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
February 18 2010 06:46 GMT
#11
Learning hotkeys is easy, just force yourself to hit the key every time instead of clicking.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24721 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-18 06:54:52
February 18 2010 06:54 GMT
#12
SonuvBob, even you say 'hotkeys' instead of 'shortcut keys'??? Oh well I'll take comfort in viewing this awesome picture:
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ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Treeplant
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States214 Posts
February 18 2010 07:32 GMT
#13
Foreal man, E as pylon? Common now, lets be fair.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
April 06 2010 00:51 GMT
#14
On February 18 2010 15:35 Rekrul wrote:
in before hitting wrong button joke

fuu
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
April 06 2010 00:51 GMT
#15
I actually like V as the overlord hotkey now. so much easier to hit SV rather then SO.
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
April 06 2010 02:43 GMT
#16
I always screw up making my hydra den, that seems like the only that got farther away. I keep hitting bd, then vd, then finally realizing it is vh.
Kezzer
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1268 Posts
April 06 2010 02:55 GMT
#17
On April 06 2010 09:51 HeavOnEarth wrote:
I actually like V as the overlord hotkey now. so much easier to hit SV rather then SO.


yeah haha what genius at blizzard thought of the good old keyboard stretch for overlords
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
April 06 2010 03:16 GMT
#18
I've played around 100~ beta games and I'm pretty used to SC2 hotkeys now, and I would probably have some problems going back to SC1 hotkeys.
That said, I didn't really play much SC1 in the past few years, so it was probably easier for me to switch over than for some others.
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