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ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
February 06 2010 19:30 GMT
#1
So today i decided to upgrade my already preposterous rig.
It's current specs are

Case: Xclio 2000 Black
CPU: i7 920 @ 4.2ghz on water
Fan/Heatsink: ZALMAN CNPS10X Extreme
Hard Drive: 2x Seagate Barracuda 1Tb +2x Velociraptor 150gb
RAM: Corsair XMS3 12GB (6x2gb) DDR3-1600
Motherboard: ASUS P6T7 WS Supercomputer
Video Card: Radeon HD 5970 (h20) + Radeon HD 5850 (h20) + ATI Firestream 9270 (h20)
Sound Card: Some random card i pulled out of my old computer, Turtle Beach, 24bit/96khz.
PSU: Thermaltake Toughpower 1200w Modular

My planned upgrades are:
Motherboard: ASUS Z8PE-D12 Dual LGA 1366
Processors: Dual Xeon W5580
I will be keeping all my other components.
Some people will ask why i'm doing this. Basically, i've got a lot of money coming my way recently so i decided to build the ultimate machine. These upgrades are gonna cost just under $3,000 =x


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U Gotta Skate.
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
February 06 2010 19:31 GMT
#2
I cannot believe how expensive everything you have is.
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 06 2010 19:32 GMT
#3
yea how do you have so much money?
Espers
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom606 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-06 19:33:02
February 06 2010 19:32 GMT
#4
and why do you need such a powerful PC?
SanguineToss
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada815 Posts
February 06 2010 19:34 GMT
#5
I can brag too
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
February 06 2010 19:38 GMT
#6
lol
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
February 06 2010 19:39 GMT
#7
No SSD ? >.<

Btw what are your screens ?
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
February 06 2010 19:40 GMT
#8
On February 07 2010 04:32 zulu_nation8 wrote:
yea how do you have so much money?

Since i moved back to the US i've been selling over the border again, and making quite a lot. Like i go up and buy 1oz of Trainwreck for about $225 and then i come down here and sell it for $350+. A QP is only (at the highest) $1.4k, and i can easily sell it for up to $2.k. This is a really dangerous way to live though, two of my friends got arrested a couple weeks ago, and in Croatia i almost got arrested due to stolen ketamine (check my blog).

Also now that i'm out of school i'm bored as hell. I'm looking for jobs at the local universities and research groups because my degree in Anthropology is fairly useless in the current economic climate. So i've been sitting at home, tweaking my system and playing video games. I just decided that since i have so much piled up money (3 or 4k) i'll spend it on my computer over the internet, via my my friend's checking account.

That's a long explanation of a pretty simple process.
U Gotta Skate.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-06 19:53:14
February 06 2010 19:41 GMT
#9
just make sure you have apps that actually have support for Dual CPU setups and you really should get a SSD and you might also need new RAM for that mobo

and don't be surprised if you see a downgrade or no performance boost while gaming
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Sapraedon
Profile Joined January 2010
United Kingdom142 Posts
February 06 2010 19:42 GMT
#10
Video Card: Radeon HD 5970 (h20) + Radeon HD 5850 (h20) + ATI Firestream 9270 (h20)

lol'd. 7/10.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51615 Posts
February 06 2010 19:43 GMT
#11
you seriously dont have anything more useful to waste your money on? (poker maybe?)
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 06 2010 19:43 GMT
#12
wow you sell drugs? you should sign up for livestream and camtasia it.
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-06 19:49:01
February 06 2010 19:48 GMT
#13
On February 07 2010 04:42 Sapraedon wrote:
Video Card: Radeon HD 5970 (h20) + Radeon HD 5850 (h20) + ATI Firestream 9270 (h20)

lol'd. 7/10.

What are you talking about brosef?
Max ATI GPU's that can be active is 4. The Firestream 9270 has the same body model as the reference 4890, so 4890 waterblocks fit it. The 5850 Crossfire with the 5970 because the single gpu's in the 5970 apparently run the same as it. [the 5850]I normally pick up my hardware from a shop in town, so it's always available.
What about that is a troll? Elaborate?
U Gotta Skate.
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-06 20:22:41
February 06 2010 19:49 GMT
#14
FINE!
I need to protect all your life you can enjoy the vibrant life of your battery
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
February 06 2010 19:49 GMT
#15
yea not the smartest way to make money :o
You should start to save coz you will get caught soon or later if you plan to earn your life that way.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
February 06 2010 19:56 GMT
#16
My e-penis is also 25 miles long. That is all.
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
February 06 2010 20:06 GMT
#17
What can't that computer run? Why in the world would you need to upgrade it?

It just seems like you would be better off saving the money, even if it was to buy a new computer next year using the latest in components. The benefit is so low for upgrading an already stellar rig.
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PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
February 06 2010 20:09 GMT
#18
Too much crab mentality in this thread, nice pc gherm.
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
February 06 2010 20:14 GMT
#19
On February 07 2010 05:06 Fontong wrote:
What can't that computer run? Why in the world would you need to upgrade it?

It just seems like you would be better off saving the money, even if it was to buy a new computer next year using the latest in components. The benefit is so low for upgrading an already stellar rig.

Basically it's e-peen, I also just enjoy seeing games turned all the way up at massive resolutions .
U Gotta Skate.
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
February 06 2010 20:19 GMT
#20
Why don't you buy a car? I mean, you can already run basically everything on that beast
The6357
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States1268 Posts
February 06 2010 20:21 GMT
#21
or save up for later...-_-;
2010 worldcup!! corea fighting!!!
Dgtl
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada889 Posts
February 06 2010 20:25 GMT
#22
thing about your i7 anything above 4 ghz is useless. There is a physical sealing that is reached at 3ghz ish. Silicon cant actually transmit that fast, so anything after 3ghz is less effective. IE, the difference between 2.2ghz-2.8 is a lot bigger than 3ghz - 4ghz (speed wise).

You could just remove the overclocking, or bring it down to 3.5 ghz or 3.6 ghz to save electricity.
^______________^
xmShake
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1100 Posts
February 06 2010 20:38 GMT
#23
On February 07 2010 05:25 Dgtl wrote:
thing about your i7 anything above 4 ghz is useless. There is a physical sealing that is reached at 3ghz ish. Silicon cant actually transmit that fast, so anything after 3ghz is less effective. IE, the difference between 2.2ghz-2.8 is a lot bigger than 3ghz - 4ghz (speed wise).

You could just remove the overclocking, or bring it down to 3.5 ghz or 3.6 ghz to save electricity.

lol
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
February 06 2010 20:40 GMT
#24
On February 07 2010 05:25 Dgtl wrote:
thing about your i7 anything above 4 ghz is useless. There is a physical sealing that is reached at 3ghz ish. Silicon cant actually transmit that fast, so anything after 3ghz is less effective. IE, the difference between 2.2ghz-2.8 is a lot bigger than 3ghz - 4ghz (speed wise).

You could just remove the overclocking, or bring it down to 3.5 ghz or 3.6 ghz to save electricity.

I don't believe you. There is a noticable performance increase between 3.5ghz and 4ghz. And also with watercooling there is no reason to NOT go to 4ghz.
U Gotta Skate.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
February 06 2010 20:42 GMT
#25
i trade 400mhz for an SSD anyday.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20164 Posts
February 06 2010 20:47 GMT
#26
Waste of money when you already have such a beast of a machine :-/
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-06 20:48:17
February 06 2010 20:47 GMT
#27
12 gb ram very very nice ^^

need to upgrade to 300 gb raptors though ^^
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ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-06 20:54:42
February 06 2010 20:52 GMT
#28
On February 07 2010 05:47 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
12 gb ram very very nice ^^

need to upgrade to 300 gb raptors though ^^

Right now i'm thinking of getting a couple of RAM fans, because my RAM gets pretty hot when running right now (at 2166 right now) my XCLIO 2000 has like 1000+cm of fans on it.
U Gotta Skate.
Polis
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland1292 Posts
February 06 2010 20:58 GMT
#29
For games? Completely pointless there will be no difference.

What is the difference between HD5970, and HD5970+HD5850 in performance?

The thing that would give you a boost are SSD.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
February 06 2010 20:58 GMT
#30


sry to be a dick but you should really spend your money on something else.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
February 06 2010 22:44 GMT
#31
Assuming same reliability (not necessarily true, hdd's are older tech and imo slightly more reliable), for the same price as the 160 gb ssd (550 on newegg), you can run raid0 striped raptors. That'll help the performance in terms of speed, and you'll have 600 gb of storage (better storage/dollar, but we all knew hdd>ssd for that kind of number).

SSD is nice, but that test in the youtube video isn't really fair to the raptor - we all know that ssd's over random write are better, just because with no moving parts there is practically 0 seek time. However, if you're doing continuous transfer, hdd's look a lot better. Kind of depends what you're doing

tl;dr version:
both have advantages/disadvantages, but the raptors don't look as bad for mixtures of normal usage as the above video makes it look.
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Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-06 22:57:04
February 06 2010 22:51 GMT
#32
When you have 3000$ to spend on bi xeon and 12gb ram with fans ( l o l ), money isn't an issue.

edit: + arguing that raptors are better than SSD is ridiculous. They are clearly inferior.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
February 06 2010 22:53 GMT
#33
SSD is nice, but that test in the youtube video isn't really fair to the raptor - we all know that ssd's over random write are better, just because with no moving parts there is practically 0 seek time. However, if you're doing continuous transfer, hdd's look a lot better. Kind of depends what you're doing

It's fair, and you're wrong. SSD's sustained speeds have overtaken even enterprise level HDDs a while ago.
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
February 06 2010 23:53 GMT
#34
SSDs are more reliable too
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
Ziph
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands970 Posts
February 07 2010 00:24 GMT
#35
Such an expensive pc and no SSD LMAO. WASTE OF FUCKING MONEY.
Starcraft 2 - Beta
LxRogue
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1415 Posts
February 07 2010 00:50 GMT
#36
On February 07 2010 05:14 ghermination wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2010 05:06 Fontong wrote:
What can't that computer run? Why in the world would you need to upgrade it?

It just seems like you would be better off saving the money, even if it was to buy a new computer next year using the latest in components. The benefit is so low for upgrading an already stellar rig.

Basically it's e-peen, I also just enjoy seeing games turned all the way up at massive resolutions .


Yeah i enjoy max settings on nice games too... That's why i got a 4870 1GB!
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11566 Posts
February 07 2010 00:57 GMT
#37
buy a $4000 1tb ssd

ez
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
February 07 2010 02:30 GMT
#38
What kind of monitor do you run with that thing? 30", 27" ? What res? 2560*1600?
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-07 02:40:14
February 07 2010 02:38 GMT
#39
On February 07 2010 07:44 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
Assuming same reliability (not necessarily true, hdd's are older tech and imo slightly more reliable), for the same price as the 160 gb ssd (550 on newegg), you can run raid0 striped raptors. That'll help the performance in terms of speed, and you'll have 600 gb of storage (better storage/dollar, but we all knew hdd>ssd for that kind of number).

SSD is nice, but that test in the youtube video isn't really fair to the raptor - we all know that ssd's over random write are better, just because with no moving parts there is practically 0 seek time. However, if you're doing continuous transfer, hdd's look a lot better. Kind of depends what you're doing

tl;dr version:
both have advantages/disadvantages, but the raptors don't look as bad for mixtures of normal usage as the above video makes it look.

Not the one in the youtube vid that was a Intel SSD they are high quality like any good fast hdd sata 2 is the leading cause of caps in speed. Intels drives are capped by sata 2 in reads as long as you don't buy their vaule ones which don't do the max of sata2 250mb/s read speed. But writing is were SSD is bad at only good writing ssd are the super expensive ones like intels E editions which go up to 180mb/s which is quite fast.

But lets face it ghost claw people don't use SSD are storage drives they use massive 2tb drives to store 1000 movies or something like that, something that will show continual large file writes are slow on even a good ssd.

The disadvantage of a good ssd are cost per gig is still very high.
faseman
Profile Joined April 2009
Australia215 Posts
February 07 2010 04:13 GMT
#40
I hope the new computer blows up on you. I genuinely think flushing your money down the toilet, killing fish and water birds on its way, is a smarter option.
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
February 07 2010 05:53 GMT
#41
On February 07 2010 11:38 Virtue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2010 07:44 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
Assuming same reliability (not necessarily true, hdd's are older tech and imo slightly more reliable), for the same price as the 160 gb ssd (550 on newegg), you can run raid0 striped raptors. That'll help the performance in terms of speed, and you'll have 600 gb of storage (better storage/dollar, but we all knew hdd>ssd for that kind of number).

SSD is nice, but that test in the youtube video isn't really fair to the raptor - we all know that ssd's over random write are better, just because with no moving parts there is practically 0 seek time. However, if you're doing continuous transfer, hdd's look a lot better. Kind of depends what you're doing

tl;dr version:
both have advantages/disadvantages, but the raptors don't look as bad for mixtures of normal usage as the above video makes it look.

Not the one in the youtube vid that was a Intel SSD they are high quality like any good fast hdd sata 2 is the leading cause of caps in speed. Intels drives are capped by sata 2 in reads as long as you don't buy their vaule ones which don't do the max of sata2 250mb/s read speed. But writing is were SSD is bad at only good writing ssd are the super expensive ones like intels E editions which go up to 180mb/s which is quite fast.

But lets face it ghost claw people don't use SSD are storage drives they use massive 2tb drives to store 1000 movies or something like that, something that will show continual large file writes are slow on even a good ssd.

The disadvantage of a good ssd are cost per gig is still very high.

I plan on buying an SSD once they're cheaper, and once SATA 3 is popular. Now admittedly after i spend $3000 on upgrades that seems kind of pointless but i hate to pay over $1 a gb of data, no matter how much faster the disc is.
U Gotta Skate.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11566 Posts
February 07 2010 06:05 GMT
#42
l o l
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51615 Posts
February 07 2010 06:08 GMT
#43
On February 07 2010 13:13 faseman wrote:
I hope the new computer blows up on you. I genuinely think flushing your money down the toilet, killing fish and water birds on its way, is a smarter option.


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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11566 Posts
February 07 2010 06:09 GMT
#44
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133089
buy this
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
February 07 2010 06:12 GMT
#45
what a waste of money just buy a mac pro. it's used by professionals in the movie industry and will completely destroy your rig.
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11566 Posts
February 07 2010 06:12 GMT
#46
i agree with mahnini
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11566 Posts
February 07 2010 06:13 GMT
#47
but buy the case too
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 07 2010 06:18 GMT
#48
i dont know what any of that means

is it good enuf to run bioshock
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Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
February 07 2010 10:55 GMT
#49
On February 07 2010 15:12 mahnini wrote:
what a waste of money just buy a mac pro. it's used by professionals in the movie industry and will completely destroy your rig.

It is a level ?
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
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